New AMD 390X leaked specs maybe 60% faster then 290X !

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Seems a we have soon a new king of hill in town!

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/429216/page/1

 

 

 

 

[Rayblue]

I had to laugh my ass off... Because this is probably the best news today, as there again soon a Titan slayer.

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We have to wait and see still rumors not official, for now take as grain of salt.

[Rayblue]

I know, because they're not yet confirmed. But it's amusing to see all the graphs tell who's going to pay just for the brand, and those who are careful but willing to pay for genuine performance and power savings.

[bjornk]

Not really interested in a power hungry, water cooled beast to be honest, no matter how fast it is. I'd be more interested in a card that can beat or is at least equal to the GTX970 in both performance and power efficiency. Only then I'd think about buying an AMD graphics card.

[Dutchbat]

Not really interested in a power hungry, water cooled beast to be honest, no matter how fast it is. I'd be more interested in a card that can beat or is at least equal to the GTX970 in both performance and power efficiency. Only then I'd think about buying an AMD graphics card.

 

 

This is rather bullshit. Lets say you pay 80 to 100 euro's more for a card that takes less power. It will take you a very very long time to get that 80 euro's back from just saving 60-80w. Heat is another story but you still dont need watercooling. 

 

1 kwh is about € 0,23, 120 / 0,23 is 521,74 kwh, the difference is about 80w between a 290 and 970 wich translates into 6521 hours or 271 days of nonstop gaming at full load. Lets say you game 8 hours a day you will have to play 815 days to get the money back you paid extra.

[bjornk]

I was talking about the new 390X, which apparently has a water-cooled version and is expected to cost around 700 USD, if not more.

 

The price difference between a AMD R 290 and a GTX 970 is around 30-40 USD, not 80-100 Euros and your calculation totally depends on how much you pay for KW per hour and how much you use it, not to mention the cost of a higher wattage PSU. Gaming equipment are not an investment with some kind of return. I want to pay less to buy them and also want to pay less to use them. And really, where is the "bullshit" in wanting a power efficient graphics card?

[Dutchbat]

I was talking about the new 390X, which apparently has a water-cooled version and is expected to cost around 700 USD, if not more.

 

The price difference between a AMD R 290 and a GTX 970 is around 30-40 USD, not 80-100 Euros and your calculation totally depends on how much you pay for KW per hour and how much you use it, not to mention the cost of a higher wattage PSU. Gaming equipment are not an investment with some kind of return. I want to pay less to buy them and also want to pay less to use them. And really, where is the "bullshit" in wanting a power efficient graphics card?

 

the price doesnt surprise me, wat is the average price of a titan these days and to add, i think the 390x will be faster than the latest titan x that they will release soon, also i take it they will drop to more reasonable prices when nvidia will come with some new cards.

 

I got this calculation from an older post and back in the days the prices between these cards were somewat bigger, and taken i just checked the prices here in my country but the difference is still close to 80-100 euro's. Also they often stock 970 cards with 450 psu's and 290's with 500 but the difference is really minimal between that. the only bullshit i called out here is people saying they pay more to pay less but in practice it doesnt work that way specially when you paid 100 euro more in the hope to safe some, how is that good for your wallet when you look back at that calculation? That whole power saving marketing hype from Nvidia is just stupid as the differences are really minimal but they make you pay really good for that.

 

And electricity prices are pretty stable overhere but i guess that can differ between countries but i think the marges on that will be minimal.

 

 

the 390(x) series will be special as they will be the first cards released that carry HBM, the memorybandwith will go straight past the 500gb's while a 980 still sits arround a mere 224gb's and if i follow Hynix's roadmap they plan to push this up to 1000gb's so really curious to the performance, fun times!

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I was talking about the new 390X, which apparently has a water-cooled version and is expected to cost around 700 USD, if not more.

 

The price difference between a AMD R 290 and a GTX 970 is around 30-40 USD, not 80-100 Euros and your calculation totally depends on how much you pay for KW per hour and how much you use it, not to mention the cost of a higher wattage PSU. Gaming equipment are not an investment with some kind of return. I want to pay less to buy them and also want to pay less to use them. And really, where is the "bullshit" in wanting a power efficient graphics card?

 

The target consumer is me, not you your at low end segment this card is for absolute top segment most of time still friendly priced.

 

Titan Z 3000 dollars amd 295 1500 dollars but beat the crap out of titan z which totally failed.

 

We get the same with Titan X a way over priced card from greedy company and beaten by card prolly 400-500 dollars cheaper but alot faster and more advanced.

 

And if there is one who price it's cards friendly it's AMD not Nvidia who are just greedy bastards.

 

970 a failed card with 3.5 gb low quality memory which is not future proof in the long run a waste of money.

 

Titan x will be 1000-1200 euro's here in europe 390x i'll bet around 700 euro's but a lot faster.

 

But i understand that for many these cards are not interested and waste of money thats fine but don't come here saying Nvidia loves you they just steal from you with most cards or take for fool and give card with less vram lol

[Rayblue]

A Titan was originally made for a specialist market, those who work with 3D graphics and where heavy rendering is needed. But then there's a market from the high-end gamers (duh) who are willing to pay for such power, so nVidia obliged to sell these Titans at a premium. To me it's lot like selling Apples because of the brand, and so fostering loyalists.

 

 

 

I was talking about the new 390X, which apparently has a water-cooled version and is expected to cost around 700 USD, if not more.

 

I believe that an air-cooled version would be forthcoming.

[afa]

Titan just release its price, 1000 USD, it seems to trail behind in terms of price:performance ratio of 980 which is usually around 550 to 600 USD, but that's typical for whatever "high end" market.

New flagship cards are rarely best in terms of price:performance.

 

I honestly don't see any of these cards being future proof standing as a single card, SLI/CF maybe, especially with the higher demand of 4k and VR in the horizon.

...but I do need a new card so, so fuck me as well.

 

Either way, 390x is taking way to long, hopefully it will ignite the price war.

I am looking forward to see if AMD's typical high memory and high resolution performance will finally be relevant.

[bjornk]

The target consumer is me, not you your at low end segment this card is for absolute top segment most of time still friendly priced.

 

 

Exactly, it's going to be AMD's flagship card for people who want to use 4K monitors and VR devices. A GTX970 OTOH, is not a low end card at all, it's pretty much the low end of the highest end segment, not cheap either. Keep in mind that some people can barely afford to build an entire system for its price.

 

970 a failed card with 3.5 gb low quality memory which is not future proof in the long run a waste of money.

Indeed, that's the reason why I'm more interested in what the 3xx series is going to offer as an alternative for the 970.

[Rayblue]

Lately I read that AMD and a South Korean memory maker Hynix just got a deal to produce 3D memory where they can be stacked up for high capacity and speeds.

[myuhinny]

I never look at the top of the market as they are always overpriced. I looked at the titan once then hit the backspace and never looked at it again and instead went and bought a GTX 780 T1 my old graphics card was a old GTX 470 which had started to die.