Fallout New Vegas GECK & Scripting Help 101

*jaam* · July 13, 2015

Im trying to come up with a workaround for the missile bug where missiles fired outside of VATS do no impact damage, only the explosion damage.

I thought about turning off the explosion then using a script to implement the explosion. However, all scripts that i put on a non-hitscan projectile like a missile (such as via ammo impact scripts or via base effect scripts) it simply refuse to run.

The script itself is really simple, but it just will not run for some reason.

For example :
scn MissileFixBaseEffectScriptBegin ScriptEffectStartplaceatme MissileExplosionHEEND
That does absolutely nothing when i fire a missile. Any ideas?
Anyone know why the script wont run?

If you are sure you attached the script where you need it, maybe it is because "me" in PlaceAtMe does not exists.

phqubo · July 13, 2015

Could always put a print inside ScriptEffectStart to make sure the event is firing.

Question · July 13, 2015

Im trying to come up with a workaround for the missile bug where missiles fired outside of VATS do no impact damage, only the explosion damage.

I thought about turning off the explosion then using a script to implement the explosion. However, all scripts that i put on a non-hitscan projectile like a missile (such as via ammo impact scripts or via base effect scripts) it simply refuse to run.

The script itself is really simple, but it just will not run for some reason.

For example :
scn MissileFixBaseEffectScriptBegin ScriptEffectStartplaceatme MissileExplosionHEEND
That does absolutely nothing when i fire a missile. Any ideas?
Anyone know why the script wont run?
If you are sure you attached the script where you need it, maybe it is because "me" in PlaceAtMe does not exists.

I'm doing it the same way the gauss rifle bug fix does it (which is to make a base effect, then attach the script to it, make an object effect with the base effect, then attach the object effect to the weapon) but it does nothing. The gauss rifle bug fix also uses "placeatme [explosion name]". If im not supposed to use "placeatme", what do i use?

I tried doing this:

Begin ScriptEffectStart

 Print "Missile Script Fired!"
 placeatme MissileExplosionHE

END

I attached it to both the ammo (As an impact script) and as a script to the base effect, which is attached to an object effect, which is then attached to the weapon. Nothing happens when i fire the missile, no text pops up on my screen.

Just to make sure, i dont need to turn on any special options to get the text to show up right?

July 13, 2015

Just to make sure, i dont need to turn on any special options to get the text to show up right?

No. However, just to be sure: your weapon requires to make at least 1 damage.

Question · July 13, 2015

So the script wont run at all if the missile hits a rock or something? Because the whole point of it is to cause an explosion 100% of the time without setting the projectile to have an explosion (since that causes the weapon to do no impact damage outside of VATS).

phqubo · July 13, 2015

Yeah Impact scripts only fire if they hit an actor.

Speaking of exploosions, Does anyone know how to resize the explosion effect(only the visual)?

July 13, 2015

Oh I don't really know, I should try.

I was more looking at when you wrote you have placed the script as weapon effect, and I remembered that weapons require to make at least 1 damage to let the effect be applied on the actor.

So you are telling me that the explosions of missiles for example don't work outside VATS? they still visually explode, but don't cause impact damage? wow, I've never noticed that, that's... bad!

EDIT: the explosion effect (the visual) should be in the radius of explosion, at least this is what it was told me few days ago

phqubo · July 13, 2015

ah yes seems to be the case thanks

Question · July 14, 2015

Yea, if you fire a missile launcher that does 125 impact and 200 explosion damage outside of VATS, it will only do the 200 explosion damage.

I tried putting it as an impact script to the ammo but it wont fire either when i shoot a rock.

Edit : I also did some testing and realised that damage done via effects (such as the fire damage of an incendiary grenade) are not affected by perks or skills, which makes some perks and weapons kind of underwhelming. Is there a way to change that? I know i can add conditions to an effect so it does more damage if the player has a certain perk, but that is a lot of perks and a lot of effects.

thepineapple · July 14, 2015

I'm a beginner scripting and im looking for help to add packages to a companion via scripting. They seem to be adding fine but it seems to immediately evaluate the packages and go back to the package that it would be using.

The way I add the packages is like this:

;First I move the companion into the cell, this works

veronicaRef.moveto CHLTopsCasinoMarker 0 0 0

;Then I add the package, which according to the console output from the on begin part of the package says that it starts

veronicaRef.addScriptPackage CHLTopsCasinoSandbox

;Then the default veronica lucky 38 package gets applied somehow and overrides the previous package

Also i've been having an issue where the console output is nearly unreadable. Like the horizontal space in between lines is tiny. How would I fix that?

July 14, 2015

Yea, if you fire a missile launcher that does 125 impact and 200 explosion damage outside of VATS, it will only do the 200 explosion damage.

Maybe you could try in the opposite way, then. What about adding an extra damage to the explosion itself, if you're not in VATS?

I'm a beginner scripting and im looking for help to add packages to a companion via scripting. They seem to be adding fine but it seems to immediately evaluate the packages and go back to the package that it would be using.

The way I add the packages is like this:

;First I move the companion into the cell, this works

veronicaRef.moveto CHLTopsCasinoMarker 0 0 0

;Then I add the package, which according to the console output from the on begin part of the package says that it starts

veronicaRef.addScriptPackage CHLTopsCasinoSandbox

;Then the default veronica lucky 38 package gets applied somehow and overrides the previous package

The package you add with AddScriptPackage will have priority to any other package. If this doesn't happen, if can be that your package is immediately dropping after being added (because not configured in the right way or because it is impossible to be executed), or there's a running script that avoid any interference from you

Also i've been having an issue where the console output is nearly unreadable. Like the horizontal space in between lines is tiny. How would I fix that?

thepineapple · July 14, 2015

(because not configured in the right way or because it is impossible to be executed), or there's a running script that avoid any interference from you

The package is just a basic sandbox package which checks if a float is <= a value. I've tested it by manually adding it to veronica and it worked fine. So that might mean that there is some script interference, do you know if there is any vanilla scripts which could cause this?

Swanky · July 14, 2015

Okay now seeing this thread I think it might be a better idea of just posting the original post again here, since more people seem on readin this topic and by the looks of it seems to be the appropriate thread anyway. Hopefully someone could help a non-scripter with resolving the issue.

Hey,

some time ago I found out about these two nice little immersion mods that both work with the Courier's stash preorder items. Now thinking it might be a nice little idea to not run into the Mojave with just my pants on AND giving every bandit this side of Vegas the same chance of items, I installed BOTH. Which kinda worked - only the items are not distributed to the character afterwards, because both are using the same base script. Now I've tried and merge those two somehow... but I am not a scripter, coder... so... yes it didn't work, obviously.

Then I looked at it some more and found the original selection script. It might be a nice idea to integrate the distribution of the items at the end of the selection (all of them, however, not just the selected items), but I do not know how this might be done.

This might be potentially interesting for other people, too.

Yukichigai's Selector Script

scn NVDLC00SelectorQuestSCRIPT

short DoStatus ;// Tracks where we are in the dialogue

short CaravanStatus
short ClassicStatus
short MercenaryStatus
short TribalStatus

short numDLC

short Button

Begin GameMode

   if DoStatus == 0

       ;//== Disable every DLC pack by default just so we don't get interrupted

       set VDLCPackQuest.bCaravanItemsGiven to 1
       set VDLCPackQuest.bClassicItemsGiven to 1
       set VDLCPackQuest.bMercenaryItemsGiven to 1
       set VDLCPackQuest.bTribalItemsGiven to 1

       set VDLCPackQuest.bCaravanUninstalled to -1 ;// Used to indicate to other mods that the load list has been modified, i.e. they shouldn't just re-enable everything

       SetQuestDelay NVDLC00SelectorQuest 1 ;// Add a delay

       set DoStatus to 1

   elseif DoStatus == 1 && VDLCPackQuest.bClassicUninstalled != -1 ;//== Unofficial way of tagging the Pre-order DLCs as disabled/do not activate now

       ;//== See what DLC Packs are installed
       ;//=== Actually, the IsDLCInstalled function doesn't work. Skip this for now
       ;if (IsDLCInstalled "Caravan Pack")
       ;   set numDLC to 1
       ;else
       ;   set CaravanStatus to -1
       ;endif

       ;if (IsDLCInstalled "Classic Pack")
       ;   set numDLC to (numDLC + 1)
       ;else
       ;   set ClassicStatus to -1
       ;endif

       ;if (IsDLCInstalled "Mercenary Pack")
       ;   set numDLC to (numDLC + 1)
       ;else
       ;   set MercenaryStatus to -1
       ;endif

       ;if (IsDLCInstalled "Tribal Pack")
       ;   set numDLC to (numDLC + 1)
       ;else
       ;   set TribalStatus to -1
       ;endif

       ;//== Hackify it
       set numDLC to 4

       if numDLC > 1 ;// Show the selection message
           Set DoStatus to 2
           SetQuestDelay NVDLC00SelectorQuest 0.1 ;//Undo the delay for the menu
           ShowMessage NVDLC00SelectorMessage CaravanStatus ClassicStatus MercenaryStatus TribalStatus
       else ;// Not enough DLC installed to select anything, so lets quit
           StopQuest NVDLC00SelectorQuest
       endif

   elseif DoStatus == 2 ;// Loop for the menu
       set Button to GetButtonPressed

       if Button == 1 ;// Toggle Caravan
           set CaravanStatus to (CaravanStatus == 0)
       elseif Button == 2 ;// Toggle Classic
           set ClassicStatus to (ClassicStatus == 0)
       elseif Button == 3 ;// Toggle Mercenary
           set MercenaryStatus to (MercenaryStatus == 0)
       elseif Button == 4 ;// Toggle Tribal
           set TribalStatus to (TribalStatus == 0)
       elseif Button == 5 ;// Enable all

           if CaravanStatus > -1
               set CaravanStatus to 1
           endif

           if ClassicStatus > -1
               set ClassicStatus to 1
           endif

           if MercenaryStatus > -1
               set MercenaryStatus to 1
           endif

           if TribalStatus > - 1
               set TribalStatus to 1
           endif
       elseif Button == 6 ;// Disable all
           if CaravanStatus > -1
               set CaravanStatus to 0
           endif

           if ClassicStatus > -1
               set ClassicStatus to 0
           endif

           if MercenaryStatus > -1
               set MercenaryStatus to 0
           endif

           if TribalStatus > - 1
               set TribalStatus to 0
           endif
       else ;// Catch-all, exit the menu
           set DoStatus to 3
       endif

       if DoStatus != 3 ;// If the loop is still enabled, show the message again
           ShowMessage NVDLC00SelectorMessage CaravanStatus ClassicStatus MercenaryStatus TribalStatus
       endif

   elseif DoStatus == 3 ;// Menu done

       ;//== Enable the appropriate items based on our choices
       set VDLCPackQuest.bCaravanItemsGiven to (CaravanStatus == 0)
       set VDLCPackQuest.bClassicItemsGiven to (ClassicStatus == 0)
       set VDLCPackQuest.bMercenaryItemsGiven to (MercenaryStatus == 0)
       set VDLCPackQuest.bTribalItemsGiven to (TribalStatus == 0)

       set VDLCPackQuest.bCaravanUninstalled to -1 ;// Used to indicate to other mods that the load list has been modified, i.e. they shouldn't just re-enable everything

       ShowMessage NVDLC00SelectorDoneMSG

       ;//== Stop the quest
       StopQuest NVDLC00SelectorQuest
   endif

End

TheSilenced Integration Scripts

ScriptName VPreorderCaravanSCRIPT

short DoOnce
int iRighttoArmBearsLoaded
int iRighttoArmBearsLoadedAlt
int iCount
int iIndex
int iRef
ref rRef
BEGIN GameMode
   if (DoOnce != 0)
       set DoOnce to 0
       set iRighttoArmBearsLoaded to 0
   endif
   if IsModLoaded "GRA - The Right to Bear Arms.esp"
       set iRighttoArmBearsLoaded to 1
   endif
   if IsModLoaded "GRA - The Right to Bear Arms -Vendors Untouched.esp"
       set iRighttoArmBearsLoadedAlt to 1
   endif
   if (DoOnce == 0)
   ; Add items to formlists
       ; Shotgun
       AddFormToFormList Everything WeapPreordCaravanShotgun;
       AddFormToFormList NVAllWeapons WeapPreordCaravanShotgun;
       AddFormToFormList WeaponListRangedALL WeapPreordCaravanShotgun;
       AddFormToFormList ShotgunSurgeonWeaponsList WeapPreordCaravanShotgun;
       AddFormToFormList RepairNVCaravanShotgun WeapPreordCaravanShotgun;
       ; Armor
       AddFormToFormList Everything PreordArmorLeather;
       AddFormToFormList RepairLeatherArmor PreordArmorLeather;
   ; Add items into the world
       ; Armor
       if (iRighttoArmBearsLoaded == 0)
           AddItemToLeveledList CondLeatherArmor PreordArmorLeather 1 1 35;
           AddItemToLeveledList CondLeatherArmor PreordArmorLeather 1 1 25;
       elseif (iRighttoArmBearsLoaded == 1 || iRighttoArmBearsLoadedAlt == 1)
           if iRighttoArmBearsLoaded == 1
               set iIndex to GetModIndex "GRA - The Right to Bear Arms.esp"
           endif
           if iRighttoArmBearsLoadedAlt == 1
               set iIndex to GetModIndex "GRA - The Right to Bear Arms -Vendors Untouched.esp"
           endif

           set iCount to 0
           Label 1
           set iCount to iCount + 1
           if iCount <= 1
               if iCount == 1
                   set iRef to 20167   ;aagCondLeatherArmor
               endif
               ; Piece together FormID
               set rRef to BuildRef iIndex iRef

               if iCount == 1
                   AddItemToLeveledList rRef PreordArmorLeather 1 1 25
                   AddItemToLeveledList rRef PreordArmorLeather 1 1 35
               endif

               Goto 1
           endif
       endif
       ; Shotgun
       AddItemToLeveledList CondNVCaravanShotgunLoot WeapPreordCaravanShotgun 8 1 45;
       AddItemToLeveledList CondNVCaravanShotgunLoot WeapPreordCaravanShotgun 13 1 50;
   ; Confirm items have been "Given"...
       set VDLCPackQuest.bCaravanItemsGiven to 1;
       set DoOnce to 1;
       printc "Caravan Pack Intigrated"
   endif
   if (VDLCPackQuest.bCaravanItemsGiven == 1 && DoOnce == 1)
   ; ...and stop script from running again.
       Stopquest VPreorderCaravan
   endif
END

ScriptName VPreorderClassicSCRIPT

short DoOnce

BEGIN GameMode
   if (DoOnce != 0)
       set DoOnce to 0
   endif
   if (DoOnce == 0)
   ; Add to Formlists
       ; Armor
       AddFormToFormList Everything PreordArmorVault13Armored;
       AddFormToFormList RepairVaultSuit PreordArmorVault13Armored;
       ; Canteen
       AddFormToFormList Everything PreordVaultCanteen;
       ; Pistol
       AddFormToFormList Everything WeapPreord10mmPistol;
       AddFormToFormList Repair10mmPistol WeapPreord10mmPistol;
       AddFormToFormList NVAllWeapons WeapPreord10mmPistol;
       AddFormToFormList WeaponListRangedALL WeapPreord10mmPistol;
       AddFormToFormList NVImprovedHoldoutWeapons WeapPreord10mmPistol;
       AddFormToFormList TheProfessionalWeaponsList WeapPreord10mmPistol;
   ; Add items into the world
       ; Pistol
       AddItemToLeveledList Cond10mmPistolLoot WeapPreord10mmPistol 10 1 50;
       AddItemToLeveledList Cond10mmPistolNPC WeapPreord10mmPistol 1 1 70;
       AddItemToLeveledList Cond10mmPistolRaider WeapPreord10mmPistol 1 1 40;
       ; Canteen
       SarahVendorChestREF.AddItem PreordVaultCanteen 1 1;
       ; Armor
       SarahVendorChestREF.AddItem PreordArmorVault13Armored 1 1;
   ; Confirm items have been "Given"...
       set VDLCPackQuest.bClassicItemsGiven to 1
       set DoOnce to 1;
       printc "Classic Pack Intigrated"
   endif
   if (VDLCPackQuest.bClassicItemsGiven == 1 && DoOnce == 1)
   ; ...and stop script from running again.
       Stopquest VPreorderClassic
   endif
END

ScriptName VPreorderMercenarySCRIPT

short DoOnce
int iCount
int iIndex
int iRef
ref rRef

BEGIN GameMode
   if (DoOnce != 0)
       set DoOnce to 0
   endif
   if (DoOnce == 0)
   ; Add to Formlists
       ; Armor
       AddFormToFormList Everything PreordArmorMetal;
       AddFormToFormList RepairMetalArmor PreordArmorMetal;
       AddFormToFormList NVTravelLightBadArmorList PreordArmorMetal;
       ; Grenade Rifle
       AddFormToFormList Everything WeapPreordGrenadeRifle;
       AddFormToFormList NVAllWeapons WeapPreordGrenadeRifle;
       AddFormToFormList WeaponListRangedALL WeapPreordGrenadeRifle;
       AddFormToFormList ExplodesGasTrapsOnHit WeapPreordGrenadeRifle;
       AddFormToFormList PerkDemolitionExpertWeapons WeapPreordGrenadeRifle;
       AddFormToFormList RepairNVGrenadeRifle WeapPreordGrenadeRifle;
   ; Add items into the world
       ; Armor
       AddItemToLeveledList CondMetalArmor PreordArmorMetal 1 1 35
       AddItemToLeveledList CondMetalArmor PreordArmorMetal 1 1 45
       ; Grenade Rifle
       AddItemToLeveledList CondNVGrenadeRifleLoot WeapPreordGrenadeRifle 5 1 40
       AddItemToLeveledList CondNVGrenadeRifleLoot WeapPreordGrenadeRifle 10 1 50
       ; DLC Support
           if IsModLoaded "DeadMoney.esm"
               set iIndex to GetModIndex "DeadMoney.esm"
               set iCount to 0
               Label 1
               set iCount to iCount + 1
               if iCount <= 1
                   if iCount == 1
                       set iRef to 61973   ;NVDLC01ArmorVsBeamTorso
                   endif
                   ; Piece together FormID
                   set rRef to BuildRef iIndex iRef

                   if iCount == 1
                       AddFormToFormList rRef PreordArmorMetal
                   endif

                   Goto 1
               endif
           endif

           if IsModLoaded "HonestHearts.esm"
               set iIndex to GetModIndex "HonestHearts.esm"
               set iCount to 0
               Label 2
               set iCount to iCount + 1
               if iCount <= 1
                   if iCount == 1
                       set iRef to 63094   ;NVDLC02PerkGruntWeapons
                   endif
                   ; Piece together FormID
                   set rRef to BuildRef iIndex iRef

                   if iCount == 1
                       AddFormToFormList rRef WeapPreordGrenadeRifle
                   endif

                   Goto 2
               endif
           endif

   ; Confirm items have been "Given"...
       set VDLCPackQuest.bMercenaryItemsGiven to 1;
       set DoOnce to 1;
       printc "Mercenary Pack Intigrated"
   endif
   if (VDLCPackQuest.bMercenaryItemsGiven == 1 && DoOnce == 1)
   ; ...and stop script from running again.
       stopquest VPreorderMercenary
   endif
END

ScriptName VPreorderTribalSCRIPT

short DoOnce
int iCount
int iIndex
int iRef
ref rRef

BEGIN GameMode
   if (DoOnce != 0)
       set DoOnce to 0
   endif
   if (DoOnce == 0)
   ; Add to Formlists
       AddFormToFormList Everything WeapPreordMachete;
       AddFormToFormList NVAllWeapons WeapPreordMachete;
       AddFormToFormList WeaponListMeleeALL WeapPreordMachete;
       AddFormToFormList VPoisonWeapons WeapPreordMachete;
       AddFormToFormList RepairNVMachete WeapPreordMachete;
   ; Add items into the world
       AddItemToLeveledList CondNVMacheteLoot WeapPreordMachete 3 1 55
       ; DLC Support
           if IsModLoaded "HonestHearts.esm"
               set iIndex to GetModIndex "HonestHearts.esm"
               set iCount to 0
               Label 1
               set iCount to iCount + 1
               if iCount <= 1
                   if iCount == 1
                       set iRef to 71469   ;NVDLC02DaturaPoisonWeapons
                   endif
                   ; Piece together FormID
                   set rRef to BuildRef iIndex iRef

                   if iCount == 1
                       AddFormToFormList rRef WeapPreordMachete
                   endif

                   Goto 1
               endif
           endif

           if IsModLoaded "GunRunnersArsenal.esm"
               set iIndex to GetModIndex "GunRunnersArsenal.esm"
               set iCount to 0
               Label 2
               set iCount to iCount + 1
               if iCount <= 3
                   if iCount == 1
                       set iRef to 2647   ;NVDLC05ChallengeArmedForBearWeapons
                   elseif iCount == 2
                       set iRef to 2624   ;NVDLC05ChallengeWhiteLineNightmareWeapons
                   elseif iCount == 3
                       set iRef to 2639   ;NVDLC05ChallengeYouDontBelongWeapons
                   endif
                   ; Piece together FormID
                   set rRef to BuildRef iIndex iRef

                   if iCount == 1
                       AddFormToFormList rRef WeapPreordMachete
                   elseif iCount == 2
                       AddFormToFormList rRef WeapPreordMachete
                   elseif iCount == 3
                       AddFormToFormList rRef WeapPreordMachete
                   endif

                   Goto 2
               endif
           endif

       ; Confirm items have been "Given"...
       set VDLCPackQuest.bTribalItemsGiven to 1;
       set DoOnce to 1;
       printc "Tribal Pack Intigrated"
   endif
   if (VDLCPackQuest.bTribalItemsGiven == 1 && DoOnce == 1)
   ; ...and stop script from running again.
       stopquest VPreorderTribal
   endif
END

Thanks for your continued time and help! o/

July 14, 2015

(because not configured in the right way or because it is impossible to be executed), or there's a running script that avoid any interference from you

The package is just a basic sandbox package which checks if a float is <= a value. I've tested it by manually adding it to veronica and it worked fine. So that might mean that there is some script interference, do you know if there is any vanilla scripts which could cause this?

The float doesn't count because the conditions are ignored when a package is added via AddScriptPackage, so the package will be always evaluated even if the conditions are false.

The problem with a sandbox package is... when will it drop? I'm inclined to believe that it drops immediately because sandboxing is not like a Travel package which has a precise end. Maybe Jaam could provide a better insight on the sandboxing behaviour.

thepineapple · July 14, 2015

The float doesn't count because the conditions are ignored when a package is added via AddScriptPackage, so the package will be always evaluated even if the conditions are false.

The problem with a sandbox package is... when will it drop? I'm inclined to believe that it drops immediately because sandboxing is not like a Travel package which has a precise end. Maybe Jaam could provide a better insight on the sandboxing behaviour.

The duration of the package would make the most sense to signify the end of the package but I have that set to something other than 0. Thanks for the insight into how package scripting works A.J. Hopefully someone else can elaborate on my issues further.

July 14, 2015

Oh I had a doubt. I hope you are not using EVP after AddScriptPackage, aren't you?

However, it could be a good idea to test it in game if you want. Click on the reference and:

AddScriptPackage <hex ID of the package you can find on GECK too>

and then wait few seconds and see if something changes. This at least will allow you to narrow down the problem, if it's in your script or in the package.

You can check with GetCurrentAIPackage the type of package that the npc is using actually, it will answer with a value which corresponds to the package, i.e. 14 if it is setted to stay in a certain place, or 36 if it's sandboxing. This is useful because sometimes the NPC could feel bad and not sandboxing, visually speaking, but the current ai package still returns 36, this means that you did your work, it's the npc which is not doing his work

thepineapple · July 14, 2015

Oh I had a doubt. I hope you are not using EVP after AddScriptPackage, aren't you?

However, it could be a good idea to test it in game if you want. Click on the reference and:

AddScriptPackage <hex ID of the package you can find on GECK too>

and then wait few seconds and see if something changes. This at least will allow you to narrow down the problem, if it's in your script or in the package.

You can check with GetCurrentAIPackage the type of package that the npc is using actually, it will answer with a value which corresponds to the package, i.e. 14 if it is setted to stay in a certain place, or 36 if it's sandboxing. This is useful because sometimes the NPC could feel bad and not sandboxing, visually speaking, but the current ai package still returns 36, this means that you did your work, it's the npc which is not doing his work

No definitely not using evp after addscriptpackage.

Adding the package through the console works fine when the companion is not at the lucky 38 but when I add it manually it does the same thing it does when using the scripting method. GetCurrentAI package is just returning 36 because it keeps going back to the normal lucky38 sandbox package.

The correct way to implement what i'm aiming to do is through a script attached to a quest right?

Edit: It seems like packages re-evaluate when you change cells, which means that what I was aiming to do via scripting might no be worthwhile. I might just need to make a bunch of packages for each individual companion and just change the condition values through scripting rather than apply generic packages through scripting.

July 14, 2015

It seems like packages re-evaluate when you change cells, which means that what I was aiming to do via scripting might no be worthwhile.

This can be corrected with a proper script probably.

Adding the packages to the companions is an easy way to avoid package problems, but it depends by the big picture of the things. It potentially can create conflicts since it changes vanilla IDs, so if you believe this could cause annoyance to you then it's not the right path to follow

*Odessa* · July 14, 2015

Consider using AddPackageAt, as an alternative to modifying in GECK.

It adds a package to the base form of an actor, at a given index, you can use 0 for the top, -1 for the end.

I have found it to be more reliable than addscriptpackage, but note that:

It will persist for the duration of the game session, so you will need to re-add it using a GetGameRestarted block. To remove you will have to find its index (See GetBasePackages) and use RemovePackageAt.

It adds it to the base form, so applies to all references of an NPC. Since companions are unique, this is okay.

thepineapple · July 14, 2015

Consider using AddPackageAt, as an alternative to modifying in GECK.

It adds a package to the base form of an actor, at a given index, you can use 0 for the top, -1 for the end.

I have found it to be more reliable than addscriptpackage, but note that:

It will persist for the duration of the game session, so you will need to re-add it using a GetGameRestarted block. To remove you will have to find its index (See GetBasePackages) and use RemovePackageAt.

It adds it to the base form, so applies to all references of an NPC. Since companions are unique, this is okay.

This seems have done it!

The only issue I have now is that veronica wont enter the tops when I just tell her to sandbox in the tops cell but I can use moveto to get around that I think.

Thank you so very much A.J and Odessa. You guys were amazingly helpful.

July 15, 2015

but I can use moveto to get around that I think.

Last time I used this solution, for 2 npcs, they both were stopping sandbox after the moveto, I don't know why. I hope it will work for you, it surely would avoid headaches

*jaam* · July 15, 2015

Consider using AddPackageAt, as an alternative to modifying in GECK.

It adds a package to the base form of an actor, at a given index, you can use 0 for the top, -1 for the end.

I have found it to be more reliable than addscriptpackage, but note that:

It will persist for the duration of the game session, so you will need to re-add it using a GetGameRestarted block. To remove you will have to find its index (See GetBasePackages) and use RemovePackageAt.

It adds it to the base form, so applies to all references of an NPC. Since companions are unique, this is okay.

This seems have done it!

The only issue I have now is that veronica wont enter the tops when I just tell her to sandbox in the tops cell but I can use moveto to get around that I think.

Thank you so very much A.J and Odessa. You guys were amazingly helpful.

Did you try a travel package ?

thepineapple · July 16, 2015

Did you try a travel package ?

Yeah I did, they still got stuck on either side of one of the doors to the tops. I discovered this doesn't happen if I have the sandbox/travel package active on that companion when they are hired and they will go inside.

A little weird but I just move them to the next location when they need to enter or leave the tops.

Edit: Was just wondering if it was possible to get the actorRef that a package is attached to from within the packages result scripts?

July 16, 2015

Was just wondering if it was possible to get the actorRef that a package is attached to from within the packages result scripts?

Did you try GetSelf? it doesn't work in some cases, but nothing blocks you to try in game with packages and see what happens

Set MyQuest.rMyREF to GetSelf

Or simply use a different package per companion, maybe

*jaam* · July 17, 2015

GetPackageTargetRef if memory serves.

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