Bloodfang Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Hello, I just reinstalled Skyrim with the hope of having a more stable game, installed a few mods (I have 176 plugins in total), but strangely my game CTD after the Bethesda logo, and to be more accurate : at the Imperial logo (main menu), just before the options to start a new game/load etc appear. I believe it's not a master file issue, I tried to run TES5Edit and no problem, same with LOOT, no dirty files, no errors. Skyrim.esm CRC: C665FD56 Update.esm CRC: 1FDAB215 C.Location, Delev, Invent, Relev Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp CRC: 23BBAC1C Version: 2.0.7 C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.LTemplate, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, Stats Dawnguard.esm CRC: 7A481404 C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp CRC: 2F92E911 Version: 2.0.7 C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, Stats HearthFires.esm CRC: F4DDC851 C.Location, Graphics, Invent Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp CRC: 909C478E Version: 2.0.7 C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound Dragonborn.esm CRC: A46CA360 C.Location, Graphics, Invent, Names Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp CRC: 697829D7 Version: 2.0.7 C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, Stats Falskaar.esm CRC: 7889C5B8 Version: 1.1.4 Wyrmstooth.esp CRC: D0C903FB Version: 1.13 ApachiiHair.esm CRC: 783F7167 Version: 1.4 Inn Girls Resources.esm CRC: 689C14AC Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm CRC: 22F6680E Version: 2.05.021 Demonica.esm CRC: DFF2AA32 Version: 253-1-0-17375 hdtHighHeel.esm CRC: 95D50087 RSkyrimChildren.esm CRC: 8405286F SexLab.esm CRC: 93A7E8FE Version: 1.59b HighResTexturePack01.esp CRC: D596F02A HighResTexturePack02.esp CRC: D596F02A HighResTexturePack03.esp CRC: D596F02A Andragorn_Replace_Imperial_Sword.esp CRC: 81681452 getSnowy.esp CRC: 944E55B4 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp CRC: D670C28D Version: 2.05.034 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp CRC: 6C0E1257 Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp. bobsDGclothing.esp CRC: DB7B541F SexLabMatchMaker.esp CRC: E35C9647 Version: 7 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp CRC: FC447339 Version: 9 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp CRC: CB770FA9 Apex Werewolf.esp CRC: 63CC025E TKDodge.esp CRC: 7627B571 Brawl Bugs CE.esp CRC: D284ACF dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp CRC: EE025E98 Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif. SkyUI.esp CRC: 9330CAF7 Version: 4.1 Animations.esp CRC: DDF13A2E RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp CRC: 4A751DD1 SOS Schlong Controller.esp CRC: D0F1CE3E FastestDog's 7B DGDLC Armours.esp CRC: B01DFA52 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp CRC: 9229A0B4 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp CRC: 1537EE33 ChildrenAnimationPath.esp CRC: D55B74CB RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp CRC: A2F2BE2C Version: 1.1.0 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp CRC: B1462A53 FS_Ygrayne.esp CRC: F82DB7FF CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp CRC: DFBF16B6 Sit Anywhere.esp CRC: 10046C96 dd-no spinning death animation.esp CRC: DD8155A5 KS Hairdo's.esp CRC: AE1E996C vImmersiveBeds.esp CRC: 1162FF74 Version: 1.01 Aradia Lace Dress.esp CRC: 3830DDF9 essential dogs.esp CRC: 948C922E FA Hide Armor.esp CRC: 8E7D347C NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp CRC: 8BAEA74C TrueBrows.esp CRC: 39161B60 kuerteeSimpleMultipleFollowers.esp CRC: D7063B0F Footprints.esp CRC: BFAF15E8 Footprints - Ash.esp CRC: D3E16A61 Light Aetherial Crown.esp CRC: 2795CED5 HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp CRC: 455E0C39 Version: 0.2e imp_helm_legend.esp CRC: 8D03A146 Imp_helm_vnl.esp CRC: 631BC366 imp_help_dbrn.esp CRC: 90635035 imp_helm_dawn.esp CRC: 5EEA63C3 Headtracking.esp CRC: 2856EB9F ScarletDawnArmor.esp CRC: 956EB846 Herugrim.esp CRC: 955F29DA LadyMask.esp CRC: 3BC30F4A HarvestFeathers.esp CRC: A5B398D2 AshRocks.esp CRC: 64EB9F73 Beards.esp CRC: 85B4CEFA Version: 28363 CharmingHighHeels.esp CRC: 9561169A HRK ENB Vanilla + DG + DB.esp CRC: B7F3B1F iHUD.esp CRC: 6098B756 Immersive Sounds - Magic.esp CRC: 15E405B8 RaceMenu.esp CRC: 2765B7D0 RaceMenuPlugin.esp CRC: 8A8A009F Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author. SOS Equipable Schlong.esp CRC: 48B1B2C0 Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp CRC: DF47669C Version: 1.0.0 Rayg_AshstormNoSnow.esp CRC: 3593DDDE WWW.esp CRC: 85233B87 RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp CRC: 15ADD7CD RelightingSkyrim.esp CRC: AD0F7004 RevampedExteriorFog.esp CRC: C2B2BCF1 Salome.esp CRC: 5D78DCC SkyrimSpeedsVanilla.esp CRC: 5A49FD97 SOSRaceMenu.esp CRC: 477B7BAA Tamriel Reloaded HD.esp CRC: EC222A1D CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp CRC: 7FBA144D JKs Skyrim.esp CRC: C9EF24B2 3DNPC.esp CRC: C65E63C2 Version: 3.09 No More Sexy Animation Fix.esp CRC: D9122EDC ApachiiHairStyles.esp CRC: 34A80588 Realistic Teeth Dawnguard Serana Vampire Fix.esp CRC: 888BEE50 RSChildren - Complete.esp CRC: 23B038FE SkaalKidAetaCoat.esp CRC: E39C8282 RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp CRC: 509B3972 Serana.esp CRC: 971D9C04 HearthfireMultiKid.esp CRC: 2055E93D HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp CRC: 4BA30BB0 Relighting Skyrim - Dawnguard.esp CRC: 9F8A0130 RealisticWaterTwo.esp CRC: A505BEA9 Version: 1.11 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp CRC: F68C9890 Version: v6.5.2a Delev, Relev Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp CRC: AFACD2E9 Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function. Rebirth Monster.esp CRC: 3F7371A1 Delev, Relev ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp CRC: 78904ADF CWINPCImprovements.esp CRC: 5C287F2B Combat Evolved.esp CRC: D1BA8CD0 BetterMagic_FULL.esp CRC: FE966CA3 BetterSpellMastery.esp CRC: 74DE3478 BetterMageArmor.esp CRC: D71B0FB4 BetterSpellFinishers.esp CRC: 21A16F43 BetterMasterSpells.esp CRC: B4C4041A BetterDualCasting.esp CRC: E6DC8F1F dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp CRC: 7AFD4E3E Note: Requires: Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch \\ Dawnguard + Dragonborn. BLEED.esp CRC: 7A9F1DDC Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp CRC: D56F181D Version: v1 Delev, Relev Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp CRC: 6023FA83 RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp CRC: 38B28565 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp CRC: 9E52CCF4 Helgen Reborn.esp CRC: 91F56C13 Version: 105.3 SoS - The Wilds.esp CRC: 7ABC4EAD Version: 1.13 Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. SoS - Civilization.esp CRC: 5EF1D362 Version: 1.02 Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. BanneredMareOverhaul.esp CRC: 553E1FF5 Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp CRC: 4FD63CD3 Version: 2 OBIS.esp CRC: E0BF5812 Delev, Relev Animal Tweaks.esp CRC: 597C4148 Birdsofskyrim.esp CRC: 37A5E020 OBISDB.esp CRC: E03F0D00 Delev, Relev Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp CRC: 37A6F2FA Version: v6.5.2a Delev, Relev Relighting Skyrim - Dragonborn.esp CRC: 9B80DA71 SoS - The Dungeons.esp CRC: 79377267 Version: 1.23 Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. FS_UltimateAssortment.esp CRC: DDBEC894 HN66_NAILS4ALL.esp CRC: 1273C6F0 NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp CRC: B61F3C1A Dark Dungeons for Skyrim-Dawnguard-Dragonborn.esp CRC: D8ACA2 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp CRC: 56988D38 Immersive Wenches.esp CRC: FE619591 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp CRC: 2A9F7DED Version: 7.1 Delev, Relev BosmericDrunkenHuntsmanReborn.esp CRC: CA58ABB1 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp CRC: A0056AE4 Run For Your Lives.esp CRC: B7BAFE68 Version: 2.0.3 Cloaks.esp CRC: 2D16EDED CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp CRC: 9E4CDC44 1nivWICCloaks.esp CRC: 6B6B803A Version: 2.3 Relev Legionettes.esp CRC: BD0CEC32 Relev Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp CRC: 41F4E844 OverflowingEnchant.esp CRC: 62BA3C4F absorb_effect_removal.esp CRC: BF3D3402 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp CRC: 3BA25C1C Version: 2.3 Delev, Relev SMIM-Merged-All.esp CRC: 46D0D2C0 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp CRC: 3B4FFDF9 Relighting Skyrim - HearthFire.esp CRC: E7C5BCF Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp CRC: 4FBD93D EliRedguardHouse.esp CRC: 92689B9B Chesko_Frostfall.esp CRC: E3704311 SFO - Dragonborn.esp CRC: C9DB0844 SofiaFollower.esp CRC: D491E11D RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp CRC: 3B3FFCEC RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp CRC: 20FAF5B4 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp CRC: 9BA892A1 Version: 1.2.8 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp CRC: E4D4E092 Doge.esp CRC: 13B83469 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp CRC: CDEDFBAD portal2mod.esp CRC: 6FE81988 iNeed.esp CRC: 3B4098FF Version: 1.321 Demonica Morag Tong.esp CRC: BCF285A5 Version: 306-1-0-17925 My Home Is Your Home.esp CRC: 4B2AEB Version: 1.21 JaxonzEnhGrab.esp CRC: DE8DBE59 AH1 piercings.esp CRC: 63FB380E FNISspells.esp CRC: 4F3339DE Pirsing.esp CRC: 896F6D91 Raven Witch Armor.esp CRC: 2DF199E2 Svs Collection Jewelry.esp CRC: 458AAF2E The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp CRC: 3F40CC78 Version: 1.8 Thundering Shouts.esp CRC: D596F02A WetandCold.esp CRC: BEAB0A2F Version: 1.422 Active Plugins 175 Dirty Plugins 0 Total Plugins 176 Warnings 0 Errors 0 Total Messages 12 I'm quite lost, what's wrong here?? It's not supposed to crash there...
Ky Kiske Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 You have enabled a mod with a missing a master or a required esp.
Bloodfang Posted February 8, 2015 Author Posted February 8, 2015 that's weird, shouldn't TES5Edit tell me about it since it loads all the files? EDIT: wow lucky me, I found the mod that was crashing my game, 3DNPC... but why, I don't know, and I don't even know why TES5EDIT couldn't find it had an issue ><
Ky Kiske Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 I don't use many programs for mod management as I used in Oblivion, I remember wyrebash warning about missing requierements, for Skyrim I only use NMM and I've been there but l don't run many mods that depend on others so it was easy to fix the issue when it happened, and when it crashes before you can even play I'm pretty sure that's the issue.
Meteox Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 I'm not an expert in all of this CTD business but there are a couple of things I found out through trial and error, experiencing them and reading around. - It might be as well a load order issue. Use LOOT to sort things out. - As Ky Kiske said, it could be a missing esm/esp that is causing the issue. As far as I know, TES5Edit should tell about it if you load all your esm/esp files. - It could be there are a couple of mods conflicting with each other. Happened to me once if I can recall correctly, make sure you read the mods' description. It might be you missed some important note regarding some installation process, required mods or even compatibility issues. - If all of this failed, try to uninstall the mods you recently downloaded since the last time you were able to play. Install them one by one and see if they cause you to CTD. A bit tedious but could be useful to find which one is causing you this issue. Edit: Upon inspecting the list you posted, I saw this message. dD - Enhanced Blood Main.espCRC: 7AFD4E3ENote: Requires: Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch \\ Dawnguard + Dragonborn. Seems like you are missing a patch, or so that is what I can tell. IF you had this mod before and never faced CTDs, then I'm not sure if I can help you further.
Bloodfang Posted February 8, 2015 Author Posted February 8, 2015 I'm not an expert in all of this CTD business but there are a couple of things I found out through trial and error, experiencing them and reading around. - It might be as well a load order issue. Use LOOT to sort things out. - As Ky Kiske said, it could be a missing esm/esp that is causing the issue. As far as I know, TES5Edit should tell about it if you load all your esm/esp files. - It could be there are a couple of mods conflicting with each other. Happened to me once if I can recall correctly, make sure you read the mods' description. It might be you missed some important note regarding some installation process, required mods or even compatibility issues. - If all of this failed, try to uninstall the mods you recently downloaded since the last time you were able to play. Install them one by one and see if they cause you to CTD. A bit tedious but could be useful to find which one is causing you this issue. Edit: Upon inspecting the list you posted, I saw this message. dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp CRC: 7AFD4E3E Note: Requires: Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch \\ Dawnguard + Dragonborn. Seems like you are missing a patch, or so that is what I can tell. IF you had this mod before and never faced CTDs, then I'm not sure if I can help you further. Hello ! No worries, updating Enhanced Blood. Problem was Interesting NPC mod, no idea why it made the game crash like that since it had everything needed. I'm glad I'll use Sofia follower mod instead of using these characters, but they could fill my empty world lol ^^
Ascian Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Do you use NMM? Try Mod Organizer instead. It usually warns you about missing masters and other kind of errors. Even though not every error displayed my MO is really an error
Bloodfang Posted February 8, 2015 Author Posted February 8, 2015 Well I know MO is better, but I feel NMM is easier to use.. But you're right I should try MO instead, it could help me to avoid crap like that^^
Meteox Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 I'm not an expert in all of this CTD business but there are a couple of things I found out through trial and error, experiencing them and reading around. - It might be as well a load order issue. Use LOOT to sort things out. - As Ky Kiske said, it could be a missing esm/esp that is causing the issue. As far as I know, TES5Edit should tell about it if you load all your esm/esp files. - It could be there are a couple of mods conflicting with each other. Happened to me once if I can recall correctly, make sure you read the mods' description. It might be you missed some important note regarding some installation process, required mods or even compatibility issues. - If all of this failed, try to uninstall the mods you recently downloaded since the last time you were able to play. Install them one by one and see if they cause you to CTD. A bit tedious but could be useful to find which one is causing you this issue. Edit: Upon inspecting the list you posted, I saw this message. dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp CRC: 7AFD4E3E Note: Requires: Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch \\ Dawnguard + Dragonborn. Seems like you are missing a patch, or so that is what I can tell. IF you had this mod before and never faced CTDs, then I'm not sure if I can help you further. Hello ! No worries, updating Enhanced Blood. Problem was Interesting NPC mod, no idea why it made the game crash like that since it had everything needed. I'm glad I'll use Sofia follower mod instead of using these characters, but they could fill my empty world lol ^^ It is good to know that you were able to find the issue, I hope I was able to assist you somehow. I never used Interesting NPC so I cannot quite tell you if there was something wrong. Though if you want some new NPCs then you may want to take a look at Immersive Wenches. Sure, it is not as good as INPC from what I heard but if you just want NPCs then it maybe sufficient.
Bloodfang Posted February 8, 2015 Author Posted February 8, 2015 I'm not an expert in all of this CTD business but there are a couple of things I found out through trial and error, experiencing them and reading around. - It might be as well a load order issue. Use LOOT to sort things out. - As Ky Kiske said, it could be a missing esm/esp that is causing the issue. As far as I know, TES5Edit should tell about it if you load all your esm/esp files. - It could be there are a couple of mods conflicting with each other. Happened to me once if I can recall correctly, make sure you read the mods' description. It might be you missed some important note regarding some installation process, required mods or even compatibility issues. - If all of this failed, try to uninstall the mods you recently downloaded since the last time you were able to play. Install them one by one and see if they cause you to CTD. A bit tedious but could be useful to find which one is causing you this issue. Edit: Upon inspecting the list you posted, I saw this message. dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp CRC: 7AFD4E3E Note: Requires: Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch \\ Dawnguard + Dragonborn. Seems like you are missing a patch, or so that is what I can tell. IF you had this mod before and never faced CTDs, then I'm not sure if I can help you further. Hello ! No worries, updating Enhanced Blood. Problem was Interesting NPC mod, no idea why it made the game crash like that since it had everything needed. I'm glad I'll use Sofia follower mod instead of using these characters, but they could fill my empty world lol ^^ It is good to know that you were able to find the issue, I hope I was able to assist you somehow. I never used Interesting NPC so I cannot quite tell you if there was something wrong. Though if you want some new NPCs then you may want to take a look at Immersive Wenches. Sure, it is not as good as INPC from what I heard but if you just want NPCs then it maybe sufficient. Actually I use it, and honestly it has proved to be more useful than INPCs as far as I'm concerned. Thank you all
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