TheUsefullPotion Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 so its basically like pipes with water in them. same size but you can transport more with more pipes. i see why thast inportant in that case. Edit: you got a 660 2 GB for 150? that aint a good deal thats basically robbing whoever sold it
nutluck Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 so its basically like pipes with water in them. same size but you can transport more with more pipes. i see why thast inportant in that case. Yeah you can think of cuda cores like pipes, and the clock speed like the water pressure, pushing the water through the pipes. So more cuda cores and/or high clock the more data you move. Edit: Like I said the 660 Ti card(the Ti means factory overclocked) was on sale and their was a factory rebate going on at the same time. If I recall at the time the card was 250, it was 30% off and had a 25 dollar factory rebate. It was something like that, I just know my final cost was just over 150.
TheUsefullPotion Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Alright. i get it. Edit: thats nice. but aint overclocking harmfull? i was thinging of reclocking my CPU as it was factory overclocked aswell Edit: i wish. i got this rig a few months ago and i cant open it wthout voiding the waranty. but whoever built this really sucks... Edit: this what we use where im from man http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=14082211
nutluck Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 If you are looking, next year check newegg for black friday/cyber monday deals. They won't have a ton of stuff on sale but what is on sale tends to be pretty steeply discounted.
nutluck Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Overclocking will make the CPU or GPU run hotter and it CAN be harmful if you let it overheat. The best part of buying a factor overclocked video card is they put a larger fan on it to make up for it running hotter. So with the larger fan it runs at the same temp as a regular 660 with the smaller fan. If you want to over clock your CPU I would recommend getting a water cooled system, they are not that hard to install and will keep the CPU a lot cooler. This would allow you to safely over clock it 10-30% depending on how good your PSU is and how good of a water cooler system you get is. That sucks about not being able to crack the case and most prebuilt ones are honestly poorly built. That is why i learned how to build my own PC's. So then I can upgrade them slowly over time. It is well worth the time and effort to learn how to do it. My best suggestion is find a cheap used computer for a little bit of nothing. Buy it and then read about how to take a PC apart and watch video's and then practice on the old PC. They really are not that hard to learn how to do.
TheUsefullPotion Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 theres a tutorial on the sweclockers page. but thats in swedish so you probably cant and dont need to read it. but i was too lazy im afraid. anyways i ment UNDER-clock it back to the basic clock speed ( i belive 3,2 GHz). for the moment it runs at about 17-20 degres Celcius with skyrim on, Nexus mod manager, 1500 ish RPM on the fan. internet on, Windows media player. antivirus system, Bluestacks app player, java, adobe flash, file manager, winrar and of course windows taskhost. and it wont go over 50% so i think im good Edit: ive been thinking of breathing some life in my moms PC. its running at 512 MB RAM. some stone-age Intel celeron and god knows witch intel HD graphics GPU. dusy old fans that was bad from the start and the vaccum cleaner does nothing to help it. also runs a Windows vista 32 bit os. i belive a 300 GB 5400 RPM HDD. so i might look into it. Edit: to say the least. they didnt plug in the second chassi fan and for some reson i got and AMD crossfire gate included
nutluck Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 theres a tutorial on the sweclocers page. but thats in swedish so you probably cant and dont need to read it. but i was too lazy im afraid. anyways i ment UNDER-clock it. back to the basic. for the moment it runs at about 17-20 degres Celcius with skyrim on, Nexus mod manager, 150 ish RPM on the fan. internet on, Windows media player. antivirus system, Bluestacks app player, java, adobe flash, file manager, winrar and of course windows taskhost. and it wont go over 50% so i think im good Oh underclock, yeah that is easy to do. You just need a program that lets you adjust the voltage etc and tweak it down. If you do this I would suggest you look up your CPU and find out what the default voltage is and make sure you don't go lower than that. I have personally never overclocked something, but I understand how it is done. Just make sure you read up on how to make the changes and what program you need for your motherboard and then carefully change the stuff.
nutluck Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 If your mom doesn't mind you playing with her PC, it would be a good candidate to learn on. Buy some cheap upgrades if you can locate any that work on it and learn how to do it. Just make sure you check what her mother board is, cpu socket type if you change that, ddr and pin for the ram and same for the gpu if you look at that. If you look at other things like dvd or HDD, make sure what kind of connectors they use and what the motherboard supports.
TheUsefullPotion Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 My pc came with and under/overclocking program from the dev so im good. tough i belive im not gonna touch it unless heat goes over 24-26 degres. she probably does acctually. i asked her a while back and she said its not worth it. i kinda agree actually. and shes not gonna game or anything, and the stuff is really relics. it overheats from internet explorer with 3 windows open. but if im planning on training i can just unscrew everything and tr to put it back. what i do thing is a good investment is 2 4Gb ram memories. and new low end fans Edit: an 60 GB SSD sounds good. but a new DvD players pontless. the old works better the the wole system
nutluck Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 If you already have a program then it is pretty easy to do. As for the PC, if it is old it likely won't support 4gig ram sticks most old ones don't many don't even support 2gig sticks. A lot of the old mother boards would only support 1gig sticks and no more than 2 gig total. Depending on just how old it is. Also if you go to upgrade the ram, make sure you get ram with the right pins(which again if the mother board is old enough could be a issue) and the right DDR. Don't try to mix the ram unless you are positive you can find the same stuff as rams can come in several voltage levels and you need to make sure they all run at the same voltage etc. But yes just taking her's apart and putting it back together is a good way to learn. that is how I learned, after a few times and a bit of reading I put my first PC together and it worked great and I have been doing it ever since.
TheUsefullPotion Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 Yeah sounds good. Damn this sounda really hard... oh well. Software work aint easy too Edit: i belive 2 GB sticks aint even made anymore Edit: Nahh im trashing her current if i acctually do swap it out. Not worth to keep half a gig of RAM
nutluck Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 It is not to bad, mostly it is just a lot of fact checking to make sure everything works together.
TheUsefullPotion Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 It's like that with everything i suppose Edit: to the guy who acctually asked for help. Hope your problem has been solved. Our conclusion was that your pc has hit the limmit.
Uriel Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 yeah but what else is there to do exept change everything to 4K? witch i have... and if you need to know just at what level my insanity is set to i can give you a full list of op mods currently being used Edit: i ment thats what its utilising. it has acces to 4 GB but dont need it. also if it needed more then 2 and that was blocked it would crash or just not render stuff Edit: BTW not to be rude in just curious. whats the basic for a "good PC" in your book? EG: like: Intel Core I5 4460 Nvidia Geforce GTX 890 2 GB 16 GB DDR3 am i close or what? Even slightly modded Skyrim crashes easily by reaching it's 32bit limit, or by filling that damned first memory block. That's why ENBoost is here and that's why SSME is here. I have i5 2500k@4Ghz, 24Gb RAM(was really cheap those days, i could not refuse), r9 290. And, i consider it's a reasonable priced gaming PC. Well, maybe except that r9 290. But since i skipped like 4 or 5 generations of GPUs, it's ok. Graphics card is usually the main thing that limits you anyway. So, do you have ENB installed? I have the SKSE mem patch but didn't really notice a improvement. But then my monitor is set to 60 refresh and I almost never drop under 60 fps in game. Never heard of the ENBoosted, I know about ENB's but not a boost that lets you use more ram. And yes I knew his card was slow I looked it up, the cuda is especially bad. But since my old GTX 260 was running Skyrim better than he was I figured the 730 was as good as my old card, which could run Skyrim at 900p at 40-45fps. SKSE/SSME mem patch has nothing to do with performance. The reason for it's existence is that during the initialization Skyrim allocates some blocks inside its memory space. Blocks are 256Mb by default. And one of those tends to fill up(especially with mods). But filling is not a problem, problem here is that Skyrim tends to crash trying to allocate more memory to hold that block's data. That's where mempatch breaks in - it allocates 512Mb instead. And that's it. ENBoost does not really increase the amount of RAM Skyrim can use. Skyrim's process is stil limited under 4Gb. ENB does some tricks to manage Skyrim's memory. It knows which data was not accessed for some time and moves it into another process memory(enbhost), freeing Skyrim's memory space for other things. If Skyrim needs that part of data again, ENB moves it back. Theoretical RAM limit in this case is lifted to 128Gb of used memory. ps: dam, that's a lot of text.
nutluck Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 Ah ok, I will have to look into a ENBoost then. Since I have lots of ram to spare now, it would be nice to be able to use a nice ENB.
Uriel Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 You can use a nice ENB if you've got a decent graphics. Effects are not using a lot of memory, they need fast realtime calculations. It's also possible to use ENBoost alone, there's an option to disable all the effects leaving only memory management active.
nutluck Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 Well I am guessing my GTX 660 Ti 2gig would be good enough if I can get a mem boost as well to help out, I know right now my 16gig of ram is a waste but it was just so cheap I couldn't pass it up.
TheUsefullPotion Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 I got RealvisionENB "verison" A preformance. so yes i do... but though i dont use the programs you listed. i might look into it. by the way wouldn't that stuff with blocks give Skyrim on ps3 problems? i noticed vannila skyrim used about 1500 Mb ram on my pc. but i ran on max though. im pretty sure ps3 runs on minimum if not even lower. I belive that the recomended juice for Maxed out ENB:s was a GTX 670. but yours is overclocked so i think youre good.
nutluck Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 I looked at the ENBoost least the only one I could find on Nexus and I know not everyone speaks English as their first language but I found that page very hard to understand.
TheUsefullPotion Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 wierd... mine was in english Edit: gramatically corrcet english i ment
nutluck Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 I looked at the actual mod ENBoost was the name, not the one you mentioned RealvisionENB.
TheUsefullPotion Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 I looked at the actual mod ENBoost was the name, not the one you mentioned RealvisionENB. yeah thats just the ENB i used... ENBoost was the one i ment being gramatically correct
nutluck Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 This one? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/38649/? It is not bad but there was a few parts I had trouble understanding what the mod author was trying to say.
TheUsefullPotion Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Yeah, i had no trouble understanding it. i can see what parts you may be refering to though
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