Jerlis Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Hello I want to introduce an idea how I see Skyrim Rapers mod working at it’s best. I’m a zero at modding and understand how hard it is but I’m sure someone who knows how to do it might find some of the ideas useful. Also forgive me for not perfect English. I must say Lovers rapers was my most favorite mod in Oblivion and I can’t wait when it will find a way into Skyrim land too. LR had it’s own flaws of course it was very far from perfect. Here are some ideas how it may be improved and made more immersive, more interesting. The interaction with the bandits. The main flaw of Oblivion LR was of course the fact that the bandit packs were just randomly placed on all main roads and they never moved anywhere. It leads to 2 problems – a) player can see them from far and can easily avoid them and the bandits can be all wiped out with time, making the roads safe again. How to solve this? I suggest to turn this into an event with it’s own internal cooldown from 10 minutes to 1 hour (customized and randomized options available). The bandits attacks can happen not only on roads, it just can be made so that somewhere away from roads the chance to run into them is lower (there also should be 0% chance spots – lore rich hidden places like High Hrothgar, Blades temple, all cities and villages etc. Also the attacks never happen if there is a dragon flying nearby, the will to live is stronger than lust usually ) So Bandits no longer stand on roads looking at each other but spawn not too far from the player in numbers from 2 to 6-7 and rush towards her (I’ll always call the player “her” here since I find it weird if male bandits want to rape a male, of course there could be additional options for those who like to see that stuff happening). When the bandits approach, their leader (there should be a leader who would speak because in LR it was pretty annoying when 3-4 bandits started separate conversations before something even happened) who will as usual offer 3 main options: 1. Pay and leave safe. If you chose this one there can be different outcomes: - The bandits are honest and after receiving your money they just leave player alone and walk away. - They accept your money but then drop a comment that you’re just too pretty to let you go. Leader attempts to rape you. 2. Player offers her body to get out of the trouble. Does exactly what it says. In this case during sex consensual positions can be used as well as forced ones. (I so hope there will be different animations!) 3. Player tells bandits to F. off and that she will not pay no matter what. In this case bandits can behave in different ways too: - If they’re few (2-3), you have high intimidation speech skill or just lucky they can just flee. - If they’re more than 3 they will attack you and so the battle begins. The rape happens only if you get staggered at least once – than the one who staggers you starts raping the victim while other bandits behave in 2 possible ways – start masturbating or stand on guard waiting for their turn. I think it will make sense if the whole rape event can’t be finished until every bandit released themselves at least once in one way or another. During such rape only forced sex animations are used and sex progression can’t be controlled. Now the other important part – what happens when the rape is over? In LR the bandits just returned to their spots and kept standing idle. Agree it’s not very immersive and fun. Also considering that they take all your money you have no choice but to destroy them all before continuing the journey. Now what I suggest. After bandits had fun and profit from you they walk away (the options 1 and 2) or they take part of your money (the option 3, the money sum can be set as % of your total amount) and start fleeing. They flee as fast as they can using running animation so you have a chance to catch them only if with use of sprint or a horse before they dispawn. Giving the bandits a possibility to just dispawn when you step on their toes would be bad so there are only 2 conditions when bandits can do that: a) You lose them from line of sight and the distance is larger than 50 meters. They reach any open cave/dungeon and remain inside near entrance for some time. If player enters the instance she may find them there and try to fight them once again to get her money and pride back. If player doesn’t enter the cave after some minutes the bandits dispawn (can be explained that they find another way out) What you think about this?
DocClox Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Hello I want to introduce an idea how I see Skyrim Rapers mod working at it’s best. I’m a zero at modding and understand how hard it is but I’m sure someone who knows how to do it might find some of the ideas useful. Also forgive me for not perfect English. I must say Lovers rapers was my most favorite mod in Oblivion and I can’t wait when it will find a way into Skyrim land too. LR had it’s own flaws of course it was very far from perfect. Here are some ideas how it may be improved and made more immersive' date=' more interesting. [/quote'] Sounds more like LoversPayBandit than RaperS. Apart from that, I'd love a mod like this, if only because it would be that much less to implement in SSG. 1. Pay and leave safe. If you chose this one there can be different outcomes: - The bandits are honest and after receiving your money they just leave player alone and walk away. - They accept your money but then drop a comment that you’re just too pretty to let you go. Leader attempts to rape you. -And if successful' date=' they may just decide to keep you. 2. Player offers her body to get out of the trouble. Does exactly what it says. In this case during sex consensual positions can be used as well as forced ones. (I so hope there will be different animations!) Couple of options here: PC could be made to strip naked, so the bandits could "see what they were getting". During the sex, the non-involved bandits might go through the players weapons and equipment helping themselves anything they liked while the player was otherwise engaged. Objecting to the process would convert consensual sex into rape. It might also be fun to have a rare event where the bandits scornfully reject the player's offer saying they want no part of such a dirty whore. Or they might insist on leading the naked PC down to the nearest river or pond so she can clean herself up before they touch her. And of course, they might decide to keep the player as a slave in this case too. Now the other important part – what happens when the rape is over? In LR the bandits just returned to their spots and kept standing idle. Agree it’s not very immersive and fun. Also considering that they take all your money you have no choice but to destroy them all before continuing the journey. Well, if the player has been raped, or has let herself be stripped naked, then there's a possibility for enslavement. Or the bandits could tell her to start running or they'll have another round/kill her/take her back to camp so the rest of the lads can have a go/sell her to their friends in the next camp/etc etc. They could go to "Guard" state so they'd warn her to leave and turn hostile if she stayed too long. Or jeer at her as she ran naked back to Whiterun. Of course, she can still double back and try and get her equipment back.
Jerlis Posted February 23, 2012 Author Posted February 23, 2012 Sounds more like LoversPayBandit than RaperS. Apart from that' date=' I'd love a mod like this, if only because it would be that much less to implement in SSG. [/quote'] Oh may be, I installed both at once so could mix them >.< And if successful' date=' they may just decide to keep you. [/quote'] Yes and yes! Dunno how could I forget this option. But it will be possible only in slavers guild is installed too. Couple of options here: PC could be made to strip naked' date=' so the bandits could "see what they were getting". During the sex, the non-involved bandits might go through the players weapons and equipment helping themselves anything they liked while the player was otherwise engaged. Objecting to the process would convert consensual sex into rape. It might also be fun to have a rare event where the bandits scornfully reject the player's offer saying they want no part of such a dirty whore. Or they might insist on leading the naked PC down to the nearest river or pond so she can clean herself up before they touch her. And of course, they might decide to keep the player as a slave in this case too. [/quote'] Interesting ideas too, could be done with some % chance which can be preset by player Well' date=' if the player has been raped, or has let herself be stripped naked, then there's a possibility for enslavement. Or the bandits could tell her to start running or they'll have another round/kill her/take her back to camp so the rest of the lads can have a go/sell her to their friends in the next camp/etc etc. They could go to "Guard" state so they'd warn her to leave and turn hostile if she stayed too long. Or jeer at her as she ran naked back to Whiterun. Of course, she can still double back and try and get her equipment back. [/quote'] Good idea too, would be additional options for the bandit dispawn system. When they shoo at player and you get far enough - they disapear. In this case to get lost equipment back player needs to return to the "crime scene" and find it there (or may be not But must be sure only non essensial items may disapear) The whole enslavement part linked to your Slavers guild sounds wonderful! The options and conditions how enslavement may happen can be made different. For example based on options the player choses - if you pay with money the chance is very little, if you struggle it's much higher. Also it can be based on character level. Enslaving a weak person is much easier than a strong warrior (optional).
Zenek Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 It could have sense but with gang-rape animations.
zaraia Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 I posted some similar ideas a while back: "It would be great for a female character to have the ability to offer sex instead of fighting when encountering hostile NPCs. If the NPC is attracted to her (the player’s Allure Skill must be high enough for that type of enemy and the NPC must be sexually compatible), they have sex. Her ability to please him will depend on her offensive sex skill and his resistance (perhaps tied to his level). Depending on how well she pleased him (or her, or them), there are three possible outcomes after that: If she did poorly, he kills her. If she did fairly well, he keeps her as a slave/fucktoy. If she did very well, he is spent and lets her go free. (Or, if she is very skilled in sexcraft, she may even be able to turn the tables on him and gradually move from submissive positions to more dominant ones until he’s the one begging for orgasm while she takes his gold and equipment, though attempting that and failing would result in enslavement or death). The PC can of course opt to fight instead. If she loses (and the NPCs are attracted to her), it will result in rape, with very few options for her during it, and an outcome which is either death, slavery, or in the best case scenario being stripped of all items and gold (and some of her pride). Offering herself freely will also come at a loss of pride. If her willpower is very low, it may be her only choice. If her willpower is very high, she can still take that option, but the loss of pride will be much greater." Though I also like paying as an option (with possible betrayal).
badcock Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 Great idea. Companions or followers make the encounters more complex. The bandits should always outnumber your party. If you're playing a male character and your other party member is a female, the bandits could offer to trade her life for yours (they keep her and you leave alive); they could rape her in front of her, know you out, and when you awaken your naked except for a weapon; You could then track them down and get her back. Or maybe they have already sold her to slavers.
eellie Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 I love this mod really really. And so far I like your options. Although what if the rapers would just attempt to killing after they rape us? and also in the process of raping and stripping you naked. Will we still have our items in our inventory? Or they just take them away? If that is the option, then we can't find them back o3o" It will be great if you just re-equip the items after the raping.
Jerlis Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 I love this mod really really. And so far I like your options. Although what if the rapers would just attempt to killing after they rape us? and also in the process of raping and stripping you naked. Will we still have our items in our inventory? Or they just take them away? If that is the option' date=' then we can't find them back o3o" It will be great if you just re-equip the items after the raping. [/quote'] Sadly those dreams of mine and nothing else. I'm absolute 0 in modding and I'm afraid to even try to master it... About your question in my opinion the best way would be - ultimate menu where a player could cutomise absolutely everything be if sex progression and positions or all questions related to equipment and it's condition.
eellie Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 I love this mod really really. And so far I like your options. Although what if the rapers would just attempt to killing after they rape us? and also in the process of raping and stripping you naked. Will we still have our items in our inventory? Or they just take them away? If that is the option' date=' then we can't find them back o3o" It will be great if you just re-equip the items after the raping. [/quote'] Sadly those dreams of mine and nothing else. I'm absolute 0 in modding and I'm afraid to even try to master it... About your question in my opinion the best way would be - ultimate menu where a player could cutomise absolutely everything be if sex progression and positions or all questions related to equipment and it's condition. I see :/ I just started to learn how to use the 3ds, Nifskope and Blender. So I don't think I could be of help yet.. I'm sure by the time I master it, a new game approaches haha (maybe) But your idea is very nice and godly~ It would spice up the story even more right? Imagine on the way journey to Kynesgrove with Delphine and suddenly.... you know...
arthasmenethril Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 will the Civil war be brought in or have i missed a thread
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