CTD When Using Creature Animations

[Anemous]

Hello! I recently starting playing Skyrim again and installed some mods. One of them I'm using is SexLab Submit and I've enabled creature support as well as installing the More Nasty Critters pack of animations and meshes. I've got all the requirements (SKSE, FNIS, etc.) and have everything updated to the newest version but for some reason my game crashes to desktop as soon as I submit to any creature. I've tried it with a wolf and also mudcrab  so far and it's happened with both. Everything works fine with humans, both my player submitting and enemies submitting. My load order is here:

 

 

00  Skyrim.esm

01  Update.esm

02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.7]

03  Dawnguard.esm

04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.7]

05  HearthFires.esm

06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.7]

07  Dragonborn.esm

08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.7]

09  ApachiiHair.esm

0A  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

0B  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

0C  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.59b]

0D  SharedSeranaDialogue.esm

0E  HighResTexturePack01.esp

0F  HighResTexturePack02.esp

10  HighResTexturePack03.esp

11  Brawl Bugs CE.esp

12  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.9]

13  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

14  Real Clouds.esp

15  SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

16  RaceMenu.esp

17  RaceMenuPlugin.esp

18  SkyUI.esp

19  DeadlyDragons.esp

1A  AchieveThat.esp

1B  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

1C  SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp

1D  SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

1E  SexLab Submit.esp

1F  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

20  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

21  ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp

22  FNISspells.esp

23  The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

24  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9]

25  The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

26  WATER.esp

27  WATER Plants.esp

28  WATER DG.esp

29  WATER DB.esp

2A  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

2B  7Base Remodeled Armor - Replacer.esp  [Version 2.5]

2C  7Base Remodeled Armor - Replacer - Dragonborn.esp  [Version 2.5]

2D  7Base Remodeled Armor - Replacer - Dawnguard.esp  [Version 2.5]

2E  RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp

2F  ProperWeaponScale.esp

30  MoreNastyCritters.esp

31  SexLab Submit Serana.esp

32  SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp

33  SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

34  HentaiCreatures.esp

35  SMIM-Merged-All.esp

 

I've used both BOSS and Wrye Bash to make sure everything is in the correct order and has the right bash tags. I'd post a Papyrus log but for some reason after I enable Papyrus it won't actually log anything. I've done it before so I know I'm enabling it correctly but it's just not working. If someone knows what could be causing that and thinks it would be helpful to solve the animation issue that would also help (I'm not 100% sure if Papyrus works different if you use Mod Organizer, I've always used NMM until now). Also, if there's any other info needed I'll reply back with it. Thanks for any help.

[Justoutthere]

In my load order (which works, mostly ) More nude creatures is BEFORE SexlabNudeCreatures (and the DLC optional esps) This might be the answer.

 

On a side note as far as I am aware there is no mudcrab animation/model.

[Anemous]

In my load order (which works, mostly ) More nude creatures is BEFORE SexlabNudeCreatures (and the DLC optional esps) This might be the answer.

 

On a side note as far as I am aware there is no mudcrab animation/model.

The author for the mod posted that the load order should be like this (how mine is):

 

Morenastycritters.esp

SexlabNudecreatures.esp

SexlabNudecreaturesDG.esp

SexlabNudecreaturesDB.esp

Hentaicreatures.esp

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/32953-more-nasty-critters/

 

Also, you're probably right about the mudcrab not having an animation but that just makes my game crashing even stranger. I use the hotkey for submitting near a mudcrab and it crashed, same for wolf.

[Alpia]

1. Use LOOT Boss is now really old and slowly everybody should know that loot is nothing else then a updated and renamed boss.

2. You can't submit to foxes mudcraps scewer mammuts etc. right now you can see supported creatures depending on the mod.

3. Are creature animations working when you use them without submit and with another mod try them with matchmaking or something else.

If they are working with a other mod then submit well the issue clearly is in submit otherwise if you crash also with another mod using these animations you might have some issue with the "nude" textures of said creatures and as soon as the animation starts the nude mesh gets used and you crash or with the animations itself in any case just try reinstalling said stuff.

 

Edit: in the papyrus.log you will only find errors as far as I know so if you have no errors with papyrus you have no log.

 

Maybe take a look to this post they don't have it only with creatures, but you might want to try it don't forget to backup your stuff just in case.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19709-sexlab-submit-01sep14-1133/page-221?do=findComment&comment=884551

[Anemous]

1. Use LOOT Boss is now really old and slowly everybody should know that loot is nothing else then a updated and renamed boss.

2. You can't submit to foxes mudcraps scewer mammuts etc. right now you can see supported creatures depending on the mod.

3. Are creature animations working when you use them without submit and with another mod try them with matchmaking or something else.

If they are working with a other mod then submit well the issue clearly is in submit otherwise if you crash also with another mod using these animations you might have some issue with the "nude" textures of said creatures and as soon as the animation starts the nude mesh gets used and you crash or with the animations itself in any case just try reinstalling said stuff.

 

Edit: in the papyrus.log you will only find errors as far as I know so if you have no errors with papyrus you have no log.

 

Maybe take a look to this post they don't have it only with creatures, but you might want to try it don't forget to backup your stuff just in case.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19709-sexlab-submit-01sep14-1133/page-221?do=findComment&comment=884551

1. I don't even know what LOOT is, I used BOSS.

2. I know now you can't submit to mudcrabs but my game crashes when I press the submit hotkey while fighting a mudcrab. I know for a fact it supports wolves though and it crashes for that too.

3. I tried it with another mod after reading your post and it didn't crash. I backed up my mods after that and tried Submit using a different animation pack and that didn't work either so the Submit mod is definitely the problem.

 

As for your edit, I already had the newest version of PapyrusUtil installed.

 

Edit: I just realized the sex scenes I was using with humans before were non-Submit related scenes. I tried using a Submit scene on a human and that crashed also so it's just the Submit mod I guess.

[Anemous]

Sorry to bump this but I could really use some help. I know for sure the problem is being caused by SexLab Submit but I don't know why it's happening. I used SexLab MatchMaker to test the wolf animations and they worked fine so I know it's not the animations or the meshes, which only leaves Submit. If anyone has any clue what could be causing it I'd really appreciate some help. =/

 

I've tried reinstalling Submit already and it didn't help at all. The page for Submit says it shouldn't conflict with any mods so I really have no clue what it could be.

[Justoutthere]

I noticed you have both Submit and Defeat, this has been known to cause issues although they cam be made to work together it isn't "out of the box" so to speak.

 

Try disabling defeat and starting a new character, if that solves your submit issues then you can search for the thread that gives info on how to get them working together.

[Alpia]

Thanks for replying to my points first loot is the official follower from boss they just renamed it for whatever reason for the future you should use loot putting that aside since we now know the animations itself work fine as you allready figured out its clearly a submit releated issue. The person who could fix your problem is the author of submit try asking in his thread or try writing him a PM another thing you can try out is:

 

-binding a other hotkey maybe another mod is using it? (but I doubt this will fix it but worth a try I think)

-Also does it work when you do it without the hotkey? (just letting the enemy knock you out with the deathproof option)

-Did you get a papyrus log in your trys or does it still dosen't log anything? (really hard to tell the issue without a log)

 

Edit:

 

I noticed you have both Submit and Defeat, this has been known to cause issues although they cam be made to work together it isn't "out of the box" so to speak.

I havent seen defeat in the loadorder and still don't see it and even if it is there it dosen't conflict when you use the submit hotkey it only conflicts when both use the deathproof option

I really don't see where you get that information of defeat I used the browser search option also looked trough every single mod in the loadorder without seeing it multiple times now.

[Anemous]

Morferous helped me fix my problem in the official Submit thread. Apparently there was a problem with the mod but someone released a patch to fix it. I also downloaded LOOT and will be using that from now on. The patch fix for Submit:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19709-sexlab-submit-01sep14-1133/?p=967443

 

And yeah I don't even use Defeat, not sure what the other guy is talking about. o_O

 

Thanks for the replies. =)

[Alpia]

Glad you fixed your problem I have seen these problems with sexlab 1.59c too, but since you have 1.59b in your loadorder I tought that can't be the problem anyway good you fixed it.