Suddenly all these glitches.. (modding)

[hexsim]

So I've been modding for a few days now, trying to get everything just right.. with my character, the graphics, the weather, etc.

 

Today I did most of the graphics/weather stuff.  And everything seemed fine, right up until I added "RealVision ENB".  I installed all the required mods (which was mostly just weather stuff) and a few of the recommended mods, like static mesh improvement, water 2 and watercolor, enhanced lights/fx, etc.

 

Well when I realized that there was a lot more involved with RealVision ENB than just installing the mod I decided to put it off for now.  The additional steps you have to take include downloading seperate .dll files, etc, as well as using the installer tool (after installing/activating the mod in NMM), which asks you to set your ram and stuff. 

 

Well right at the point where I opened and clicked "install" and it asked me to set my RAM, was when I decided to put it off.. so I clicked "cancel", then realized it went ahead and installed some files/settings anyway.. so I clicked "uninstall", as well as deactivating the mod on NMM.  But now I have the following issues in game..

 

1) My camera is now more like FO3 (which normally I would like, in THAT game, but not this one) where the camera doesn't move seperate from your character.  When you move your mouse left/right, the character's view and body follows it.  There's no way to move the mouse seperate from your character, and it's very stiff and doesn't function properly.  I thought maybe there was a setting to change this in game, but I cannot for the life of me find it if there is.

2) I'm using ECE and a bunch of character mods like UNPB, and when I enter the showracemenu.. now the presets don't work properly, they just kind of do a random face, but they glitch out with weird facial proportions, and don't even change with different presets about half the time..

3) There's this odd sort of shiny distorted light effect on my character's body.  It's only barely visible but it's annoying nonetheless.  More visible the darker it is where she stands (less light).  I'm sure people have seen this before, as I have in other games.  I'm pretty sure this is related to Enhanced light and FX mod, but does anyone know how to use that mod and still avoid this from happening?  Not as big a deal as 1 and 2...

 

Worst part is, this was all the last of it.. was ready to start my game til I noticed these problems lol.  Now no matter what mods I uninstall, the issues persist... Could really use some help here, don't want to have to do a reinstall

[hexsim]

OK, figured out why #1 and #3 were happening..

 

#1 my character was stuck in "combat mode" for some reason, because she didn't have anything equipped...  No idea why it wouldn't have just brought her fists up instead and I can't replicate it now, for whatever reason.  Just hope it doesn't happen again.  And #3 was from one of the graphics mods I had installed.. likely Lights and FX like I thought.

 

But problem #2 persists, and it's the biggest issue I'm having, and the only thing stopping me from creating a new character and actually playing the game... 

 

Whether I start a new game, or one of my mod testing saves.. every time I enter into character creation/showracemenu, the presets are all whacky and look terrible, most of the options for facial features don't work despite the slides being there.  The facial features for the presets glitch out, and look 'kind of' normal for about half a second, then do this weird thing where the eyes move down a bit and the face looks disproportionate, which I cannot fix even with other sliders.  The presets look terrible, and half the time they don't even change when I move the slider, OR they simply give me a random face with different hair/features/etc.  One thing that happens quite often too, is I'll be moving the slider and it repeatedly asks me if I really want to use the preset, because I'll lose my settings.. even though I didn't change anything, and am just clicking the preset slider..

 

Something similar happened before when I didn't realize the new versions of ECE and RaceMenu aren't compatible.  Although I can't for the life of me figure out what could be causing a compatibility issue now, as I didn't really change/add anything that could have affected it.. I've uninstalled all the graphics mods I added recently, and still no progress.

[Alpia]

 

1) My camera is now more like FO3 (which normally I would like, in THAT game, but not this one) where the camera doesn't move seperate from your character.  When you move your mouse left/right, the character's view and body follows it.  There's no way to move the mouse seperate from your character, and it's very stiff and doesn't function properly.  I thought maybe there was a setting to change this in game, but I cannot for the life of me find it if there is.

 

This sounds like your weapon got unequipped due a mod and you are still in the "weapon drawn" stance try to reequip a weapon if this dosen't change something the error lays somewhere else

For the other stuff I have no clue with the information given. Only thing to say the presets change if you install or deinstall face releated stuff like brows eyes whatever. Maybe you can provide a screenshot what you mean with weird and glitch out a load order also allways helps.

 

As for the question of ram, well if the installer ask's for your ram it sure is just to save you from installing to high settings since real vision provides a full and lite version you can also install it manually without NMM this saves you from the installer stuff you are not sure with.

 

Edit: Guess I was to slow with with my post for your number 1 problem

[hexsim]

 

 

1) My camera is now more like FO3 (which normally I would like, in THAT game, but not this one) where the camera doesn't move seperate from your character.  When you move your mouse left/right, the character's view and body follows it.  There's no way to move the mouse seperate from your character, and it's very stiff and doesn't function properly.  I thought maybe there was a setting to change this in game, but I cannot for the life of me find it if there is.

 

This sounds like your weapon got unequipped due a mod and you are still in the "weapon drawn" stance try to reequip a weapon if this dosen't change something the error lays somewhere else

For the other stuff I have no clue with the information given. Only thing to say the presets change if you install or deinstall face releated stuff like brows eyes whatever. Maybe you can provide a screenshot what you mean with weird and glitch out a load order also allways helps.

 

As for the question of ram, well if the installer ask's for your ram it sure is just to save you from installing to high settings since real vision provides a full and lite version you can also install it manually without NMM this saves you from the installer stuff you are not sure with.

 

Edit: Guess I was to slow with with my post for your number 1 problem

 

Haha, that's alright, thanks for the response.  At least it confirms #1 it to be true =P

 

As far as my main issue.. It's definitely only a problem as soon as I install ECE (Enhanced Character Edit).  I deactivated and reactivated everything one at a time, and the faces are fine and look normal (albeit mostly vanilla) right up until I install ECE...  Then all the presets are replaced with odd faces that just look terrible.  The eyes will be in one spot when you first change the preset, and then move down (as if immediately set to min on eye height), and it still asks me about every 3rd time I click the slider "are you sure you want to use a preset? lose your settings, etc"

 

I can't for the life of me figure out why this would be the case..  It was perfectly normal before.  It still used the same vanilla (but just nicer looking) presets when I was using ECE before, which is what I want.  I'll try and get some screenshots and figure out how to post my load order.. although I've messed around with my load order quite a bit already.

[hexsim]

Just found a link to a thread with the same exact problem, unresolved..  Seems his presets are warped, and don't look anything like they should, just like mine.  Although his are a bit worse..

 

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615805-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/68379764?page=1

 

If I install RaceMenu instead of ECE, the vanilla presets are all there, and look as they should (although much better with my mods).  However, with this ECE problem I'm having, they all look way worse even than if I left this game untouched and unmodded..  I much prefer ECE over RM though, because it has more variety per slider (like 25 eyes instead of 16, for instance).

 

It's as if ECE is now replacing the usual standard presets, with bad, warped versions of themselves.  It didn't do this before, when I first installed it, and I cannot find any incompatibilities anywhere..  It makes it very difficult to create a character.

[Alpia]

If you use ECE there are no presets at least no standart presets! most guys who do followers also provide a cme save file these are the presets after the first three the first three are the standart skyrim presets there is a replacer for them to look  at this:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/download/1000031356 you have to put the presets in the cme save folder in documents where also your save files are.

 

Here you can take a look on some presets if you want I upload you mine

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/download/1000092574 for this presets you need the following also installed otherwise you will have messed up or ugly faces:

SG Female Textures and More                   by HelloSanta
SG Female Textures Renewal                    by HelloSanta                  http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/35267/?
SG Female Eyebrows                            by HelloSanta                  http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/35327/?
ApachiiSkyHair                                by Apachii                     http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/10168/?
ApachiiSkyHair natural Retexture              by Aron                        http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/35092/?
The Eyes Of Beauty                            by Gabriel Mailhot             http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/13722/?

 

Since the presets are based on the authors used mods you will most likely need the mods he says otherwise it will may look like a mess.

 

A screenshot would really help also ECE dosen't have more variety per slider at least not if you use some proper mods giving you real variety when it comes to eyes brows etc., but its easier due the presets to make some really pretty faces in ECE

 

For me it sounds like you did not understand the preset menu of ECE

ECE Skyrim vanilla presets are crap and messed up due custom stuff that comes with ece.

You have to use CME LOAD to use presets you can download for example with the links I posted these are again placed in documents cme_saves

 

Edit provided super awesome paint tutorial:

[Alpia]

So here is another pictured "guide" better to understand had not much time. If you want I provide you with the cme_saves I use or you look for some follower mods some modders provide their cme save.

It really took me some time to even understand your problem since I never used the normal presets slider and did not even tought off someone using them

 

[hexsim]

So here is another pictured "guide" better to understand had not much time. If you want I provide you with the cme_saves I use or you look for some follower mods some modders provide their cme save.

It really took me some time to even understand your problem since I never used the normal presets slider and did not even tought off someone using them

 

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Ahh I see... I wish I had known all this lol.  Figured it out not long after I made my last post though, thankfully.

 

I had no idea that ECE just started everything from scratch (something I am not in the least good at).  I just figured it was an expansion of sliders, since it doesn't really mention anything about no presets on the mod page.

 

Definitely an editor mod for more advanced creators than I, then

 

Thank you for your responses though, I've fixed all my issues.

[Alpia]

Well as I said you can download beautiful presets so even if you are not good in editing faces you can easily make a nice face.

[BringtheNoise]

For Face issues (presets not working correctly) check to areas

1. data\meshes\actors\character\FaceGenMorphs\morphs - There should be a folder for ECE morphs

2. meshes\actors\character\character assets\ look for the "femalehead.tri"

Some modified heads (like the high poly count Citrus head) come with new tri files and ece sets.

 

Also check your load order.

If your are using ECE and racemenu. I think ECE goes below RM on the load order for it to work correctly.

 

As for the tattoo's you wanted to add to the body while using ECE instead of Racemenu. You might talk the maker of the tattoo set or the maker of the Slavetats mod to make a version for slave tats. It works via MCM menu instead of on the showracemenu.

 

It should be easy to apply the 4 files (body, feet, hands, and head). And in Slavetats you can set the color of the tattoo (not sure if you can set a glow though).

 

I recently had a similar issue with the presets not working correctly. It was because I changed to a thin head mesh and didn't have the correct tri files to match the head. The tri file is how both Racemenu and the default Skyrim adjust the face.

 

Hope that helps you some...