Sexout Intimacy

[BruceWayne]

Hey @t3589,

 

I've been poking around in the files (as instructed ) and I've stumbled upon this conflict:

 

Is that intentional or is this an oversight?

[t3589]

17 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

Hey @t3589,

 

I've been poking around in the files (as instructed ) and I've stumbled upon this conflict:

 

Is that intentional or is this an oversight?

 

The dialog esp deletes the original placeholder entries present in the esm.  So yes, this is intentional.  That's how the conflict is resolved.  Otherwise the dialog esp would be required.  This makes it so that it is not required in order to receive non-blank entries in order to test the esm alone.

 

[BruceWayne]

Okay, that makes sense.

 

I was hunting for the blank greetings I was getting and thought I found the culprit. 

[t3589]

14 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

Okay, that makes sense.

 

I was hunting for the blank greetings I was getting and thought I found the culprit. 

 

I don't think it's a clerical error.  It's a conditioning error.  None of the dialog met any of the conditions and as a result you get a null dialog zoom.  Just have to run into it to find it.

 

EDIT: If you gave me the topic I could narrow it down.  If you enable package debug it will print the topic ref to the console.

 

Edited June 17, 2023 by t3589

[BruceWayne]

57 minutes ago, t3589 said:

 

I don't think it's a clerical error.  It's a conditioning error.  None of the dialog met any of the conditions and as a result you get a null dialog zoom.  Just have to run into it to find it.

 

EDIT: If you gave me the topic I could narrow it down.  If you enable package debug it will print the topic ref to the console.

 

 

I do encounter them relatively regularly.

 

Off the top of my hat topics include: Lust, Rumor, Activity, the final topic after an acitivity is finished and probably a few others. I do have the suspicion that the initial variable setting might bug out, because most of the time it happens when I've been SOI-talking to a different NPC shortly before. It's just a hunch, nothing to back it up yet. 

 

Might also be me rushing through the dialog at times. I will have a closer look the next time it happens.

 

On another note, is there somewhere a rundown on how the rumor system work? What does it actually mean to confirm or deny a rumor? I've seen the message a couple of times, but I can't really figure out what exactly I've been doing (differently) then before. lol

[t3589]

24 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

 

I do encounter them relatively regularly.

 

Off the top of my hat topics include: Lust, Rumor, Activity, the final topic after an acitivity is finished and probably a few others. I do have the suspicion that the initial variable setting might bug out, because most of the time it happens when I've been SOI-talking to a different NPC shortly before. It's just a hunch, nothing to back it up yet. 

 

Might also be me rushing through the dialog at times. I will have a closer look the next time it happens.

 

On another note, is there somewhere a rundown on how the rumor system work? What does it actually mean to confirm or deny a rumor? I've seen the message a couple of times, but I can't really figure out what exactly I've been doing (differently) then before. lol

 

Strange.  I almost never get null dialog.  On the rare occasion I do, I go in and fix it immediately and upload the dialog esp.  You have to remember that the variables are updated on the fly as you move through dialog.  So if you rush through them before the system has a chance to keep up, it can cause problems.

 

Rumors are pretty straightforward.  Confirm to establish as an opinion, deny to remove them.  You can avoid NPCs forming an opinion if you choose to argue/ignore instead.  However if you change the subject by arguing/ignoring, you'll still have a rumor floating around.  You get rid of them by successfully denying them (they have to believe your character).

 

[CherryNebula]

I think I found the culprit, that was borking up the pregnancy thing. I took a look at the kids my PC already had, and all of them but one, I could interact with. The one I couldn't, had no dialogue, outside of the normal NPC kid dialogue snippets. So I offed them, and the problem went away completely, without downloading the updated file. I have no idea why it worked, but getting rid of them, sorted everything out.

[t3589]

6 minutes ago, CherryNebula said:

I think I found the culprit, that was borking up the pregnancy thing. I took a look at the kids my PC already had, and all of them but one, I could interact with. The one I couldn't, had no dialogue, outside of the normal NPC kid dialogue snippets. So I offed them, and the problem went away completely, without downloading the updated file. I have no idea why it worked, but getting rid of them, sorted everything out.

 

The offspring dialog uses the vanilla dialog mechanism (default e).  Simmer Down/Go Play/Go Home/Play Until Dark are the only options they have.  You shouldn't get any dialog at all if you hotkey them.  So I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here?

 

[CherryNebula]

On 6/17/2023 at 3:37 PM, t3589 said:

 

The offspring dialog uses the vanilla dialog mechanism (default e).  Simmer Down/Go Play/Go Home/Play Until Dark are the only options they have.  You shouldn't get any dialog at all if you hotkey them.  So I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here?

 

 

I couldn't interact with them at all. I didn't hotkey them, just the normal vanilla dialog E. None of the options (Simmer Down/Go Play/Go Home/Play Until Dark) came up, they'd just say random vanilla NPC child dialogue snippets. Like they were just a kid, how could they be of help or that they're not supposed to talk to strangers. All the other kids, I could interact with via E. But this one in particular, I could not. It's like it didn't recognize that it was the PCs kid.

[t3589]

6 minutes ago, CherryNebula said:

 

I couldn't interact with them at all. I didn't hotkey them, just the normal vanilla dialog E. None of the options (Simmer Down/Go Play/Go Home/Play Until Dark) came up, they'd just say random vanilla NPC child dialogue snippets. Like they were just a kid, how could they be of help or that they're not supposed to talk to strangers. All the other kids, I could interact with via E. But this one in particular, I could not. It's like it didn't recognize that it was the PCs kid.

 

I fixed that issue recently.  Did you clean save the dialog esp?

 

[CherryNebula]

1 hour ago, t3589 said:

 

I fixed that issue recently.  Did you clean save the dialog esp?

 

 

Was that the 6.6.7 update? If it is, then I clean saved that one. If anything, it was probably just a random hiccup, that I didn't notice until it started messing with things. Either way, it's fixed now from what I've seen, and I've not run into it again. Everything is running as it's supposed to.

[CherryNebula]

I just had an NPC newly added in, that hated me right off the bat. The very first time I talked to him, he immediately hit me with dislike. Which I found to be super rude, so I argued and smacked him around a bit, after he insulted me. Which led to him responding to me with [sexual] and [aroused]. Never have I seen the [aroused] response, in all the different NPCs I've interacted with. I'm guessing that means he has a fetish for being smacked around? Which explains the attitude, because how else are they gonna fulfill their fetish, if they don't piss someone off enough, that they get smacked. Funny enough, he warmed up to me real fast, afterwards.

 

I did also get nailed with [unfaithful], after I got pregnant from a group encounter. Kinda unfair, since my spouse was the one who wanted a group encounter to begin with. So naturally out of spite, I loved up the guy who fathered the kid (but declining any relationship beyond lovers), right in front of my spouse. Which made him believe I was partnered with the other guy, and lose all respect for me. I'm down to -97 respect wise with my spouse now. Yet he still won't divorce me. Like fella, you can't accuse me of infidelity, when you're the one who chose a threesome.

 

Oh and if an NPC chooses a dance top or bottom, the scene ends immediately. yet the PC is still engaged in the act, but the NPC is off doing whatever.

 

[t3589]

4 hours ago, CherryNebula said:

I just had an NPC newly added in, that hated me right off the bat. The very first time I talked to him, he immediately hit me with dislike. Which I found to be super rude, so I argued and smacked him around a bit, after he insulted me. Which led to him responding to me with [sexual] and [aroused]. Never have I seen the [aroused] response, in all the different NPCs I've interacted with. I'm guessing that means he has a fetish for being smacked around? Which explains the attitude, because how else are they gonna fulfill their fetish, if they don't piss someone off enough, that they get smacked. Funny enough, he warmed up to me real fast, afterwards.

 

I did also get nailed with [unfaithful], after I got pregnant from a group encounter. Kinda unfair, since my spouse was the one who wanted a group encounter to begin with. So naturally out of spite, I loved up the guy who fathered the kid (but declining any relationship beyond lovers), right in front of my spouse. Which made him believe I was partnered with the other guy, and lose all respect for me. I'm down to -97 respect wise with my spouse now. Yet he still won't divorce me. Like fella, you can't accuse me of infidelity, when you're the one who chose a threesome.

 

Oh and if an NPC chooses a dance top or bottom, the scene ends immediately. yet the PC is still engaged in the act, but the NPC is off doing whatever.

 

 

I'll look into it.  Thanks again.

 

[ChancellorKremlin]

16 hours ago, CherryNebula said:

I just had an NPC newly added in, that hated me right off the bat. The very first time I talked to him, he immediately hit me with dislike. Which I found to be super rude, so I argued and smacked him around a bit, after he insulted me. Which led to him responding to me with [sexual] and [aroused]. Never have I seen the [aroused] response, in all the different NPCs I've interacted with. I'm guessing that means he has a fetish for being smacked around? Which explains the attitude, because how else are they gonna fulfill their fetish, if they don't piss someone off enough, that they get smacked. Funny enough, he warmed up to me real fast, afterwards.

 

I did also get nailed with [unfaithful], after I got pregnant from a group encounter. Kinda unfair, since my spouse was the one who wanted a group encounter to begin with. So naturally out of spite, I loved up the guy who fathered the kid (but declining any relationship beyond lovers), right in front of my spouse. Which made him believe I was partnered with the other guy, and lose all respect for me. I'm down to -97 respect wise with my spouse now. Yet he still won't divorce me. Like fella, you can't accuse me of infidelity, when you're the one who chose a threesome.

 

Oh and if an NPC chooses a dance top or bottom, the scene ends immediately. yet the PC is still engaged in the act, but the NPC is off doing whatever.

 

Reading any of your posts is always a highlight of visiting this thread ?

Whenever people say they don't understand the mod, I'm always inclined to point them towards any of your experiences!

[KindaChill]

So I have no clue how to even start this mod. I have downloaded all the modules for it in the right order and I have started the SOIntimacy in the pipboy and configured the button but all it says is [NPC Name] is excluded or it loops a bunch of packaging and excluded

 

[CherryNebula]

On 8/17/2023 at 8:15 AM, KindaChill said:

So I have no clue how to even start this mod. I have downloaded all the modules for it in the right order and I have started the SOIntimacy in the pipboy and configured the button but all it says is [NPC Name] is excluded or it loops a bunch of packaging and excluded

 

 

shift+ whatever hotkey button you chose when starting the mod.

[lendiforma]

So, this mod doesn't do much on it's own yet, right? Gotta say I'm very confused with what this mod actually does, so it must me a framework for future things or something like that?

[t3589]

On 7/13/2023 at 3:07 PM, CherryNebula said:

I just had an NPC newly added in, that hated me right off the bat. The very first time I talked to him, he immediately hit me with dislike. Which I found to be super rude, so I argued and smacked him around a bit, after he insulted me. Which led to him responding to me with [sexual] and [aroused]. Never have I seen the [aroused] response, in all the different NPCs I've interacted with. I'm guessing that means he has a fetish for being smacked around? Which explains the attitude, because how else are they gonna fulfill their fetish, if they don't piss someone off enough, that they get smacked. Funny enough, he warmed up to me real fast, afterwards.

 

I did also get nailed with [unfaithful], after I got pregnant from a group encounter. Kinda unfair, since my spouse was the one who wanted a group encounter to begin with. So naturally out of spite, I loved up the guy who fathered the kid (but declining any relationship beyond lovers), right in front of my spouse. Which made him believe I was partnered with the other guy, and lose all respect for me. I'm down to -97 respect wise with my spouse now. Yet he still won't divorce me. Like fella, you can't accuse me of infidelity, when you're the one who chose a threesome.

 

Oh and if an NPC chooses a dance top or bottom, the scene ends immediately. yet the PC is still engaged in the act, but the NPC is off doing whatever.

 

 

NPCs with the cuck fetish or polygamy proclivity shouldn't mind other partners.  So if the NPC intiates group sex with one of these there shouldn't be any problems.

 

But if they don't have those flags, think of it this way.  Male spouse wants to have a 3-way with his wife and another woman vs. a heat of the moment decision to team up with another guy on his wife.

 

I'm guessing this is what happened.  The PC agreed to group with spouse and another 'compatible' NPC.  This caused them to regret that choice and is now upset with the situation.
 

[CherryNebula]

On 9/9/2023 at 3:38 PM, t3589 said:

 

NPCs with the cuck fetish or polygamy proclivity shouldn't mind other partners.  So if the NPC intiates group sex with one of these there shouldn't be any problems.

 

But if they don't have those flags, think of it this way.  Male spouse wants to have a 3-way with his wife and another woman vs. a heat of the moment decision to team up with another guy on his wife.

 

I'm guessing this is what happened.  The PC agreed to group with spouse and another 'compatible' NPC.  This caused them to regret that choice and is now upset with the situation.
 

 

That is absolutely hysterical, and I'm just blown away that it was even an outcome. Tons and tons of arguing and love dialogue brought the respect level back up to normal, but it was very much not easy. He still occasionally has a melt down, if he even catches possible flirting between my PC and the other guy, and down goes the respect again. Glad I made it a point to figure out his favorite things, since that makes it much easier to deal with, when he has a total shit fit.

[t3589]

4 hours ago, CherryNebula said:

 

That is absolutely hysterical, and I'm just blown away that it was even an outcome. Tons and tons of arguing and love dialogue brought the respect level back up to normal, but it was very much not easy. He still occasionally has a melt down, if he even catches possible flirting between my PC and the other guy, and down goes the respect again. Glad I made it a point to figure out his favorite things, since that makes it much easier to deal with, when he has a total shit fit.

 

It plays into the benefit of getting to know them as best you can.  Just because they suggest something (especially if they're drunk), doesn't mean they can handle the consequences.  So sometimes it's best to decline.

 

I've also wanted to add some kind of 'try kink once' tracking for a while now.  Just haven't gotten to it.  Maybe at some point.

 

P.S. Rejecting/Declining the other NPC while they're watching can help.
 

[CherryNebula]

So I have come across this with 7.8:

 

fnSOIEvalImprego:offspring Unavailable

 

Wasn't sure what that was, since it's the first time I've ever ran into that. Since that has begun popping up in the debug, no babies.

 

Rolled it back to 7.7, and the issue resolves.

Edited September 13, 2023 by CherryNebula

[t3589]

16 hours ago, CherryNebula said:

So I have come across this with 7.8:

 

fnSOIEvalImprego:offspring Unavailable

 

Wasn't sure what that was, since it's the first time I've ever ran into that. Since that has begun popping up in the debug, no babies.

 

Rolled it back to 7.7, and the issue resolves.

 

That means it couldn't find a valid matching race for the pregnancy.  It's not necessarily an error, but probably means you've hit the limit for that race.  How many offspring has your character had, and what are their races?

 

[tahadar]

Hello again

 

I somehow bumped into an issue. Shocker, ha?

 

So I got tired of playing Iron Maiden and downloaded the latest SoI files (from dl section) and  started playing (my toon was max level). I set up a couple of NPCs (not followers, static named NPCs) and played the escort. After a while my PC had 8 patrons. And here comes the problem. Somehow she can't "proposition" anymore - no matter if patrons are old or new. I have no intention to offer her services for free, so what I'm supposed to do?

 

Also I set the "brothel entrance" at Willow cottage in Novac, then I realized NPCs were just waiting at the door, they did not enter. So I disabled the location from SoI settings, with the intention to set it somewhere else. But now I no longer have the option to set it anymore. How can I enable it again?

 

Tbh my "secret" dream was to have a location were the chosen NPCs to come (heh, pun sort of intended) and pretty much have non-stop action with my PC. Trying to set it at Wrangler or Tops was kinda lame as most of the gamblers are ugly af and "populated casinos" bring a lot of lag. Also had in mind Mormon Fort, but those tents are horrid. My last chance would be to create a custom location in a decent area - maybe near Gun Runners - and use it as player home and brothel. That is unless I missed something / I'm doing something wrong. Am I?

 

Thx.

 

 

Edit. I also get an error in console "Error in script 170F1046 in mod SexoutIntimacy.esm. Param 00 out of bounds" (I wonder if is pregnancy related because I play without it)

Edited September 16, 2023 by tahadar

[t3589]

19 hours ago, tahadar said:

Hello again

 

I somehow bumped into an issue. Shocker, ha?

 

So I got tired of playing Iron Maiden and downloaded the latest SoI files (from dl section) and  started playing (my toon was max level). I set up a couple of NPCs (not followers, static named NPCs) and played the escort. After a while my PC had 8 patrons. And here comes the problem. Somehow she can't "proposition" anymore - no matter if patrons are old or new. I have no intention to offer her services for free, so what I'm supposed to do?

 

Also I set the "brothel entrance" at Willow cottage in Novac, then I realized NPCs were just waiting at the door, they did not enter. So I disabled the location from SoI settings, with the intention to set it somewhere else. But now I no longer have the option to set it anymore. How can I enable it again?

 

Tbh my "secret" dream was to have a location were the chosen NPCs to come (heh, pun sort of intended) and pretty much have non-stop action with my PC. Trying to set it at Wrangler or Tops was kinda lame as most of the gamblers are ugly af and "populated casinos" bring a lot of lag. Also had in mind Mormon Fort, but those tents are horrid. My last chance would be to create a custom location in a decent area - maybe near Gun Runners - and use it as player home and brothel. That is unless I missed something / I'm doing something wrong. Am I?

 

Thx.

 

 

Edit. I also get an error in console "Error in script 170F1046 in mod SexoutIntimacy.esm. Param 00 out of bounds" (I wonder if is pregnancy related because I play without it)

 

[Proposition] is a dialog entry.  If it isn't showing up then the conditions are not being met.  The brothel marker should only be used on interiors.  I added it for TTW players to test.  If you're in FNV land, all of the brothels are already hard coded (Wrangler/Gomorrah).  Tops is not a brothel, and there are consequences if you're caught.

 

That script is the bodyswap script, but param 00 doesn't tell me anything useful.  If you can give me steps to reproduce these problems I'll look into it.
 

[tahadar]

thank you for your response

 

Well, I reloaded the game from level 3 (leaving Goodspings) and I  started SoI as well. Right now my character is level 24 and already have 11 patrons, her value is almost 100 rising slowly from 16. So far so good, it gives a sense of progression, of achieving something.

 

That error is still there, appears even when I start the game, but besides bloating the save / log doesn't bother me too much. And I don't use body-swap feature.

This errors are pretty much all over in falloutnv_error.log

SCRIPTS: Script '1633FC', line 64: Function 'AddScriptPackage' requires a reference.
Failed to execute function 'AddFormToFormList' on line 11 of script 'C08CBE3' (0C08CBE3).

Searching with Geck it appears to be part of "SexoutSCRS0AddToSexoutStoreLists". I could be wrong, I probably am, but again maybe it helps.

All the errors related to intimacy in that file are like this

Audio: Could not open file Data\Sound\Voice\SexoutIntimacyDialog.esp\FemaleAdult08\SOIDlgCommon_SOINPCGreet_000158DE_1.wav

Audio: Could not open file Data\Sound\Voice\SexoutIntimacyDialog.esp\FemaleAdult08\SOIDlgChoi_SOIPCSmallTalk_00001F01_1.wav

Audio: Could not open file Data\Sound\Voice\SexoutIntimacyDialog.esp\FemaleAdult08\SOIDlgChoices_SOIPCLust_00020005_1.wav

Audio: Could not open file Data\Sound\Voice\SexoutIntimacyDialog.esp\FemaleAdult08\SOIDlgChoi_SOIPCSmallTalk_00001F01_1.wav

Audio: Could not open file Data\Sound\Voice\SexoutIntimacyDialog.esp\FemaleAdult08\SOIDlgChoices_SOIPCDesire_0001F73A_1.wav

Audio: Could not open file Data\Sound\Voice\SexoutIntimacyDialog.esp\FemaleAdult08\SOIDlgChoi_SOIPCDispositio_000436A5_1.wav

Audio: Could not open file Data\Sound\Voice\SexoutIntimacyDialog.esp\FemaleAdult08\SOIDlgChoi_SOIPCSmallTalk_000402E9_1.wav

 

My actual problem is my girl doesn't actually strip when asked to. I looked in the files, when asked for a lap dance or table dance she's supposed to strip, but she doesn't. She doesn't strip either during the dance performance on the stage. Yes, clothes are set up properly. What is supposed to stay during sex, it stays (earrings, bracelet, necklace), what is supposed to be undressed, it is (dress, shoes, thong, sunglasses). However the strip during the dance (stage or customer) doesn't happen. Any idea? (maybe is supposed to be NX_SetEVFl "SOI:Act:Strip" 2 instead of 1?)

 

... And another thing. I can "fix" it but I'm hesitant about it - because after all it's not my vision. But when lovers / patrons "have something to say" and go to PC asking for food / drink / gift / whatever, my RL reaction is like "sweetie you got it backwards, you are supposed spoil me with gifts and attention, not the other way around. I have the entire wasteland to chose from". And honestly, when you have 10 npc's fighting for your attention when the 11th come and ask you to [Clean] it's sort of annoying. I know I can simply remove their requests from dialog (like I did with "maybe later") but that would turn the NPCs in worshiping sycophants and it would defeat the purpose of entire mod.

 

 

Later edit. Attached is the console output

 

 

Later-later edit. Because it drives me crazy, attached are also dress settings. Maybe I did something wrong there...

 

ConsoleOutputFile - 9_17_2023.txt

dress_setting.bmp

Edited September 18, 2023 by tahadar
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