Broken Npcs, becoming completely unresponsive and non-interactive

BloodSplatter · September 3, 2014

Edit: SOLVED!

This game-breaking bug is caused by the mod Animations, the feature "block-activation" causes it, and can be disabled in the menu. All this feature allows is to have your character physically open say a door for example, as it transports you though. In order to fix already broken npcs, enter the same cell as them, disable block-activation and then re-enable it, talk to them and it should work, and then disable it again. After you've fixed these npcs keep it disabled unless you want to keep having to fix it in this way when it occurs. I looked at the author of the mod does actually state this fix on his page, but for me personally, I downloaded and installed this mod so long ago that I had no clue that it'd be the cause.

Anyway, I hope anyone else with this problem finds this thread, it sucks trying to narrow this stuff down.

Hey guys, I'm having quite a nasty issue with npcs glitching out and becoming completely non-interactive with the PC.

It seems to be effecting any and all npcs randomly, was doing the dawnguard questline and during Serana just stopped responding, exactly as Brynjolf and Delvin have done to me in the past, I had to reload a previous save to get by it, hasn't happened again to Serana, but did happen with Isran after returning from getting Sorine and Gunmar. I haven't uninstalled any mods during play, well I did uninstall Thieves Guild Requirements, but that was after the issue arose as I thought it might've been the culprit, which it wasn't but it still was making things further complicated.

Only could find one other case http://forums.nexusm...665958-npc-bug/ but that wasn't resolved, however his issue is identical to mine. As he said it seems random, as reloading a save after encountering the bug fixes the npc past the state that the bug occurred on them. Which makes this frustrating because I can't replicate it and therefore can't keep disabling mods at the same point in time until it happens again in any reasonable manner. As he also said, disabling all mods doesn't help as it seems to be in the save game, but in new games it continues to occur randomly.

I also did notice this happening to random enemy npcs like bandits, every now and then I'd kill a bunch and one of them would be unlootable, just no interaction.

If you need more info, lemme know. Thanks

Edit: I'd also like to add that I've tried everything I could think of on the effected npcs, disable enable, kill resurrect, resetai, recycleactor, casting a fury or calm spell on them, attacking them and then yielding... sigh, I've never had this issue in the past and have little clue what's caused it as the only mods I've added recently is PCEA and an armour mod or two... before those probably morrowloot, less gold rewards, scarcity and simple taxes.

Here is my load order from wrye Bash which has been sorted with LOOT and manually tweaked by me

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6]

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6]

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6]

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6]

Falskaar.esm

NewWorld.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

SPIKE.esm

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esm

HmmWhatToWear.esm

HmmWhatToWearDawnGuard.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

TERAArmors.esm

SkyrimSewers.esm [Version 4.11]

Remodeled Armor.esm

Earrings Set1.esm

daymoyl.esm

SeraphineHuntedArmor.esm

nightshade_armor.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

Pirsing.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

BloodWitchArmor.esm

Ezuka's Bracelets.esm

AzarHair.esm

Animations.esp

NoCombatMusic.esp

TERAArmors.esp

fox9 Armor.esp

LockDoorPerk.esp

draeath-NightingaleShadow-LesserPower.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

BFSEffects.esp

WyldMenuPlugFemale.esp

Blindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp

ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp

FixedEyeAdaption.esp

Lock Overhaul.esp

Locational Damage.esp

ReadingTakesTime.esp

ConvenientCrossbows.esp

Populated Cities 2.esp

Blackjack.esp

matedrestedwolf.esp

DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Black Mage Armor.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks_Dawnguard.esp

Ebony Craw Wizard Armor fixed.esp

ESFCompanions.esp [Version 0.1.1]

ImmersiveFP.esp

FNISspells.esp

RaceMenu.esp

Footprints.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp

Elesium Boot Mod.esp

Elesium Armor Fix.esp

LaFemmeLycana.esp

ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp [Version 1.5]

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

LovelyHairstylesCE.esp

serana stfu.esp

SkyUI.esp

Nouserhere Ears.esp

Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

No NPC Greetings.esp

Northgirl.esp

Proper Aiming.esp

DisableAutoAim.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Realistic werewolf speed.esp

RunStaminaDrain.esp

NoKillmovesAgainstPlayerNPCsOnly - Dawnguard.esp

SeeYouSleepByMadmole.esp

Skyrim Scaling Stopper.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

GauldurAmuletBoost.esp

RV markers.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2]

AOS.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

Immersive Sounds - Footsteps.esp

NoSneakAttackSound.esp

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp

CookingAlchemyMeltingTanning.esp

MageBooks.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp

secretofspellbreaker.esp

SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

ReflectiveWard.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp

Sate That Appetite - RND version.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

calvins not so tough now mod.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp

DragonsEnhanced.esp

UNP Jewelry Variants V3.esp

Dread Huntress Armor.esp

HuntressAlt.esp

Sit Anywhere.esp

iHUD.esp

FalskaarDawnguard.esp

TavernClothes-MTM.esp

DragonbornArmorFix.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

Height Adjusted Races.esp

ShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp

UnlimitedEnchantments.esp

Kill Every NPC.esp

passivedestructionfix.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2]

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

SkyrimSewers.esp [Version 4.11]

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

Nightingale Hall.esp

Non-playable Armor.esp

Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp

Sneak Tweak.esp

SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp [Version 4.8]

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

Tales_of_Lycanthropy.esp

VanguardArmor.esp

TelekinesisImproved-LessDMG.esp

Wandererarmor.esp

TeraHairWeightFix.esp

ThrowVoice_NoSubs.esp

ToL_MCM.esp

TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp

WATER DB Waves.esp

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

Tougher Traps.esp

Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

STL-ElderScrollonBack.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

LocalizedGuildJobs.esp

TradeBarter.esp

Better Follower Improvements.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

buildablehouse.esp

Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp

ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp

throneroom.esp

WATER.esp

RND_Water-Patch.esp

wetandcold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

WyldMenuPlugMale.esp

BosmerArmorMATY743.esp

Glass Variants.esp

UFO - Dragonborn AddOn - Unofficial.esp

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

Svs Collection Jewelry.esp

ZU_Refuse_Joining_The_Nightingales.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Populated Prisons.esp

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

Predator Vision.esp

RND_AnimalLoot.esp

Vampirelordroyal.esp

ArachnaphobiaExpansion.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

SkyRe_Survivalism.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

companionarissa.esp

WATER Plants.esp

FishingInSkyrim.esp

ScopedBows.esp

daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp

Sneak Tools.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

NightinagaleNoEarSlot.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

better_torches.esp

ForgottenMagic.esp

Elewin Jewelry.esp

Hunterborn.esp

Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp

Morrowloot.esp

Horses for followers.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

My Home Is Your Home.esp

Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp

Raven Witch Armor.esp

Fixed Vamp And Bandit Foreheads.esp

Insanity's Umbra Sword.esp [Version ison]

LustmordVampireArmor.esp

HuntressArmor.esp

NewJewelleryGems.esp

ScoutArmor.esp

UNP Jewelry.esp

WerewolfUpgrade.esp

WRF_by_RolandSir_TAWUTD_DG.esp

WRF_by_RolandSir_DG.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

WRF_by_RolandSir_UTD_DG.esp

WRF_by_RolandSir_Main_file_DG.esp

yourwalkspeed.esp

zz_GDRAHoods.esp

GDZZJJDH.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.1.6]

improvedsneakdetection.esp

TKRecoil.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

WestWindAssault.esp

DSpSoB.esp

JZBai_Hidespots.esp

UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp

RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp

ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp

kuerteeGoldAjustment.esp

Scarcity - Less Loot Mod.esp

Scarcity - 10x Loot Rarity.esp

Scarcity - 10x Merchant Item Rarity.esp

Expensive Transports 20x.esp

SimpleTaxes.esp

HonedMetal.esp

Post Reproccer ScopedBows Patch.esp

ReProccer.esp

ReProccerDragonborn.esp

Skyrim Bandages 1.1 Mod.esp

mslVampiricThirst.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

PCEA DG n DB DLC for SkyRe_Races.esp

BretonElfEarRaceAddon.esp

And this is my story manager log, I'm not sure if it's relevant but I feel it is, this was while I was trying to activate (pressing e) on Isran, to talk to, pickpocket, etc.

[09/04/2014 - 12:01:22AM] StoryManager log opened (PC)

[09/04/2014 - 12:01:22AM] Started processing event 0005F9BB: Actor Dialogue Event - Location: ,Actor 1: ,Actor 2:

[09/04/2014 - 12:01:22AM] -Node 'Actor Dialogue Event' passed

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[09/04/2014 - 12:01:22AM] ----Quest 'DialogueGenericScene04' failed to fill aliases

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[09/04/2014 - 12:01:22AM] ----Quest 'DialogueGenericSceneDog01' failed conditions

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[09/04/2014 - 12:01:22AM] ----Quest 'DLC1DialogueHunterBaseScene10' failed to fill aliases

[09/04/2014 - 12:01:22AM] ----Quest 'DLC1DialogueHunterBaseScene6' failed to fill aliases

[09/04/2014 - 12:01:22AM] ----Quest 'DLC1DialogueHunterBaseScene9' failed to fill aliases

[09/04/2014 - 12:01:22AM] ----Quest 'DLC1DialogueHunterBaseScene5' failed to fill aliases

[09/04/2014 - 12:01:22AM] ----Quest 'DLC1DialogueHunterBaseScene3' failed to fill aliases

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[09/04/2014 - 12:01:22AM] Finished process event.

[09/04/2014 - 12:01:22AM] Started processing event 0005F9BC: Actor Dialogue Event - Location: ,Actor 1: ,Actor 2: