Skyrim CTD after Bethesda Logo - Win 8.1 Dx9 Problems.

[MonaBabii]

Hello!

Sorry if this is the post number 642.567 you've seen about this sort of problem, and even after as many hours as I have into Skyrim I've never stumbled upon this issue before until now D:

 

I got myself a new computer, and after downloading Mod Manager and getting all of my mods back in place and installed, including FNIS (I believe I installed it properly as well following instructions from LoversLab itself), I select SKSE through Mod Organizer, hit Run... and bam Game starts, Bethesda logo shows up, and then right as the logo is done playing my game crashes abruptly.

 

Now I have seen it myself a thousand times over that this issue is due to one (possibly more) of my mods is/are missing master files. The problem is that I don't think I'm actually missing any, and Mod Organizer does not give me any warnings for missing files.

I have downloaded and used TES5Edit (through MO) and again, spotted nothing wrong with the list of mods.

Then proceeded to click the "Sort" button in MO to run LOOT. The thing re-organized my mods (which now I believe some may be in the wrong order too >_<) and nothing... Skyrim still CTDs after the logo video.

 

Does anyone have any other ideas on how to check why is this happening, please? I know I should be posting my load order in here but still not 100% sure how to do that from Mod Organizer, and I wanted to make this post as soon as possible to get at least someone to see it D: As soon as I find how to grab my mod list from MO I'll edit this post and paste it right here

 

Thanks a ton in advance!

 

Edit:

Load order:

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

SGHairPackBase.esm

HmmWhatToWear.esm

TERAArmors.esm

HmmWhatToWearDawnGuard.esm

SexLab.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Strap.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp

ice.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

AncientDraugr.esp

MashupUNP.esp

RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

Dark Dungeons for Dawnguard.esp

ETaC - Falkreath.esp

Dark Dungeons for Dragonborn.esp

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp

EliteRogueArmour.esp

ETaC - Morthal.esp

ETaC - Dawnstar.esp

ETaC - Winterhold.esp

SexLab Submit.esp

Krev The Skinner's Mantle by Hothtrooper44.esp

The Bastard.esp

SexLab Warmbodies.esp

LovelyHairstylesCE.esp

MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp

Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

NailsUNP.esp

Perks Unbound - Merged.esp

OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

AHZmoreHUD.esp

All Geared Up.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuOverlays.esp

ETaC - Riverwood.esp

ETaC - Rorikstead.esp

ETaC - Dragon Bridge.esp

ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

ETaC - Kynesgrove.esp

ETaC - Ivarstead.esp

ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp

Artifact Disenchanting.esp

calyps-dragonpriestmasks.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

RND_USKP-Patch.esp

RND_ETaC-Patch.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

SGHairPackAIO.esp

ScarletDawnArmor.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp

ETaC - Karthwasten.esp

WATER DB Waves.esp

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

Captured Dreams.esp

Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp

CD-Tera Armors addon.esp

Cloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

Devious Deviants.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

UFO - Dragonborn AddOn - Unofficial.esp

SexLab Romance.esp

sextoys-calyps-2.esp

CD - Calyps Sextoys addon.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp

FormsEdit.esp

SkyUI.esp

Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp

CD - Skyrim Strapon addon.esp

WildHuntress.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

TradeBarter.esp

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

Unique Uniques.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

WATER DG.esp

WATER.esp

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp

RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp

RND_AnimalLoot.esp

SpousesEnhanced.esp

Osare Culort Outfit.esp

FNISspells.esp

Ursine Armor Pack.esp

Sextoys Calyps Chest.esp

Sneak Tools.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

WestWindAssault.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp

isilNarsil.esp

Devious Cidhna.esp

Bouncy-Bodices-Booties-Belts-Stockings.esp

Ghorza's Armor.esp

WestWindMisfit.esp

zenet_GagQuest.esp

navetsea female face preset.esp

zzArmormashups.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

 

 

Again... I believe the order was way better before I clicked the Sort/LOOT button >_< but since I didn't make any backups I can't go back to it.

 

Either way, any help would be appreciated D: Thanks again in advance!

 

EDIT 2: Long story short... it seems that the ENB is causing this, the "wrapper version" apparently (the .dll file to be precise).

Now the question is: Does anyone know how can I set up my ENB to use the Injector version if I'm using Mod Organizer (and SKSE)? Do I need to do anything in particular? set any executables on MO?

 

Thanks in advance, again!

 

EDIT 3: Well... I tried the Injector version of the ENB, but now the issue is that when I open the Injector application, and then try to run the launcher as you must, Steam says I'm "playing skyrim", but the launcher never shows up :/

 

I have no idea what's going on Just gonna try waiting see if anyone around here might have a clue.

 

Also, in case this is necessary, I'm using Windows 8.1, fully updated, freshly installed. Maybe I'm missing something?

 

FINAL EDIT: Ok I finally found the right solution. I just had to install the DirectX 9 files (since my computer is new, freshly installed on Win 8.1, which doesn't come with those files by default).

So for anyone having this issue, there you go 

Found the solution Here.

[Killikrates~2014]

Nothing in your load order jumps up and screams "I'm the problem" to me (unfortunately), I've been in this position myself, you are probably left with selecting one mod at a time to disable until the game successfully starts.

Re- LOOT, you can use its metadata window to set rules (load after) if you have a particular mod you need loading after something else. Keep in mind LOOT is the successor to BOSS, so it already includes the old BOSS masterlist rules to supplement its algorithm (you can make new reports or ask questions via the BethSoft Forum thread).

[MonaBabii]

 

Thanks for the reply.

Would right clicking the mod in the load order (through Mod Organizer) and hit disable work? or do I actually need to start uninstalling them all? x_x

 

Welp... I disabled every single mod and master except for "Skyrim", the "Update" and the 3 DLCs, all esm files. Game still CTDs after the logo when there's supposedly no mods running at all, not even the unofficial skyrim patches :/

 

Could it be my ENB? I've always seen the message "If the wrapper version doesn't work, try the injection" or whatever... but never actually had to, nor have I seen what actually happens when that "wrapper" version doesn't work... Or it could be MO not playing well with my ENB? Though despite these questions, right when the Bethesda logo is playing I can see the ENB text at the top left corner of the screen, the usual ENB debug text that always shows up, so not sure if that's indicative that the ENB is working fine, or it doesn't actually have anything to do with whether the ENB is causing this or not...

 

I'm completely in the dark here Please do let me know if anyone has any other suggestion!

 

 

Well... crap. It IS the ENB :/ ... When I remove the ENB files (move them to a backup folder) along with the host application and the .dll, suddenly skyrim doesn't crash anymore >_< ... I guess I'll try the Injection version of it somehow. Never done it but can't be all that difficult.

 

I'll update the post with whatever I find so anyone having this issue in the future can check it out, as I did a search on google and all the "fixes" for this issue have always been related to "master files".

 

I wonder if I need to run anything from the ENB from Mod Organizer... and both what that would be, and how lol...

[Killikrates~2014]

I'm not sure what enb preset you are running, but I've never had an issue running a wrapper version of enb with/without MO. Enb files generally install to the main Syrim directory, so they are transparent to MO. Just install your enb as directed and then launch MO as normal (presumably through the SKSE exe option within MO).

I believe you can "shift F12" from the Skyrim main menu to disable enb in game (& of course you should be seeing the "splash" in the upper right corner of the menu screen telling you the enb is active). Do you have the most current binary files from Boris' site?

[MonaBabii]

I'm not sure what enb preset you are running, but I've never had an issue running a wrapper version of enb with/without MO. Enb files generally install to the main Syrim directory, so they are transparent to MO. Just install your enb as directed and then launch MO as normal (presumably through the SKSE exe option within MO).

I believe you can "shift F12" from the Skyrim main menu to disable enb in game (& of course you should be seeing the "splash" in the upper right corner of the menu screen telling you the enb is active). Do you have the most current binary files from Boris' site?

 

I do. I'm using The Grim and Somber ENB and the latest binaries.

The reason I'm asking about instructions is because there are some that I believe are missing from the description page of that ENB. I've seen people saying you need to edit an .ini to tell the Injector to also run SKSE or something... So I figure if that's the case, there may also be a problem with running the game from MO without doing these things to the Injector.

[Killikrates~2014]

I'm not familiar with injector versions (or Grim & Somber for that matter, but I assume its similar to other presets), but MO has an ini editor for Skrim.ini & Skyrimprefs.ini (you can edit enblocal.ini from your Skyrim dircetory outside MO).

[MonaBabii]

 

 

I'm not familiar with injector versions (or Grim & Somber for that matter, but I assume its similar to other presets), but MO has an ini editor for Skrim.ini & Skyrimprefs.ini (you can edit enblocal.ini from your Skyrim dircetory outside MO).

 

You need to edit the injector's ini, not the game's default ini files. Thanks anyway for trying to help though

This is what I mean though... I'm just as much in the dark as you are with these things lol.

 

 

Well... I tried the Injector version of the ENB, but now the issue is that when I open the Injector application, and then try to run the launcher as you must, Steam says I'm "playing skyrim", but the launcher never shows up :/

 

I have no idea what's going on Just gonna try waiting see if anyone around here might have a clue.

 

Also, in case this is necessary, I'm using Windows 8.1, fully updated, freshly installed. Maybe I'm missing something?

 

 

Ok I finally found the right solution. I just had to install the DirectX 9 files (since my computer is new, freshly installed on Win 8.1, which doesn't come with those files by default).

So for anyone having this issue, there you go

Found the solution Here.