Elizinator Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 so that my problem. this started happening recently, and i have no idea why. my character has armor rating north of 900, and 500 hp, so its pretty distressing when you calculate how much damage these attacks have to be doing in order to kill me instantly. thousands. first things first, does anyone know this problem specifically? i have *a lot* of mods which do all sorts of things, but i dont use Duel or Deadly Combat or anything. i have a number of AI mods, and Ultimate Combat, but disabling them doesnt seem to do anything. i do have ACE (everything but the magic) but it doesnt seem to have a pertinent setting to change. all thats happening is that power attacks with 2-handed weapons and bows deal WAY too much damage.
TnTTnT Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Isn't it more easy for people to help you if you provide your load order than letting them guess what you have?
Elizinator Posted August 3, 2014 Author Posted August 3, 2014 Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm AzarHair.esm ArmedttTeeth.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm GeneralStores.esm hdtHighHeel.esm HmmWhatToWear.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm SkyMoMod.esm TERAArmors.esm Brawl Bugs CE.esp Morning Fogs.esp Supreme Fog - CoT.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp LIAT - Sounds.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp AK- Placeable Statics.esp Dienes_Crafting_Storage(GS).esp EbonyCrownCraftable.esp ElvenCrownCraftable.esp FreeMem.esp GeneralStoresBreezehome.esp GeneralStoresProudspire.esp High Level Enemies.esp High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp high level enemies - raised ability caps.esp HigherLevelEnemies.esp higherlevelenemies_dawnguard.esp LIAT - NPCs.esp Loadscreens Extended.esp MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SexLabSquirt.esp ShootingStars.esp vallespmodel.esp Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp Mart's Savegame DeBloatifier.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuOverlays.esp SkyTweak.esp vAutosaveManager.esp SkyUI.esp Customizable Camera.esp TKDodge.esp AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp Ancient Skyforge Armor.esp AncientBladeWeapons.esp Andragorn's Armoury.esp Armored Bikini - UNPB BBP.esp BFPU Orcish Armor.esp Black Lotus.esp BlackSacramentArmor.esp BlackWisteria.esp Bondage Straps - UNPB BBP.esp BoundArmors.esp ConanSwords.esp CrainteVomir.esp DaedricCrownCraftable.esp UNP Jewelry.esp DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp dragonslayer.esp Earth Breaker.esp FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp FJ_TsunArmor.esp FullMetalBikini.esp Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp Ghosu - Project Flintlock - Ammo Addon.esp Ghosu - SkullHelmet.esp Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp HentaiVoidArmor.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Immersive Weapons.esp isilNarsil.esp Lady of Death.esp LFDarksidersWarSet.esp Lich King's Armor.esp Lore Weapon Expansion.esp Malo_Waffen.esp maruMask.esp MashupUNP.esp Melt_Down_Everything.esp NobleArtifacts_ENG.esp NewmillerPiercings2.esp NewmillerPiercings3.esp nightshade_armor.esp nightshade_armor_hvy.esp Pauldrons.esp R18Pn - Torumekian Armor.esp R18Pn - Leere Armor.esp R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp R18Pn - Argent Iron Armor - blessedbody.esp Raven Witch Armor.esp RegnPiercings.esp Remodeled Armor.esp selobl_Diano.esp Sexy Armor Package.esp Silverlight Armor.esp SkaalHeavyArmor.esp TERAArmors.esp TERA Weapons.esp Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp Unique Uniques.esp UNPArmoredBikini.esp UNPB Barbarian Armor.esp Veteran Nord Plate.esp WarArmor.esp wow.esp WWW.esp zzDraugrParts.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp DeadlyDragons.esp DeadlyMonsters.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp Portal.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Spellblade.esp TheMadMasker.esp Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp Thunderchild - Dragon Language Words Patch.esp alcoholiceffect.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Differently Ebony.esp Grass On Steroids.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Rebirth Monster.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dawnguard-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp dD-Dragonborn-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp SpectacularNightEye.esp Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp Zarias_Piercings1.esp zzEstrus.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp BFT Ships and Carriages.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Dawnguard.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp prod80_CoT_patch.esp DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp Better Vampires.esp DMCVampirelordFemalePlayer.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ASX_Spells.esp MidasSkyrim.esp Midas Magic Expanded.esp Colorful_Magic.esp Dwemerverse - Dwarven Magic Package.esp KarlitosSpells.esp Levitate - Morrowind Edition.esp Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp Phenderix's Magic Transcended.esp SSAPBWK.esp FNISspells.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp Teleport.esp Teleport-DG Plugin.esp Teleport-DB Plugin.esp BetterMagic_FULL.esp HM Enchanting Unlocker.esp UltimateCombat.esp ACE Realistic Fighting.esp Eld-unarmedCombat.esp StrongEnemyXtreme.esp The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp ACE BYOG.esp ACE Speech.esp ACE Archery.esp ACE Armor.esp ACE Enchanting.esp ACE Melee.esp ACE Smithing.esp ACE Synergy.esp Vampirelordroyal.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp vImmersiveBeds.esp Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp Fh hairs-by zzjay.esp MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp N_43 Hair Pack.esp zzDreadlocks.esp FlansEyesForSkrim.esp innovaeyes.esp BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp RaceMenuFreckleOverlays.esp WyldMenuPlugFemale.esp WyldMenuPlugMale.esp SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp CharGen ECE Morphs.esp Extra Scars.esp Reanimate FX.esp ThatsRacist.esp thatsracist-mfrp-5sec.esp BloodyFacials.esp DTHSpellMageArmorEffectReplacerNoEffect.esp ImmersiveWater3.esp BVandRB_Formlist.esp The Asteria - Dwemer Airship(GS).esp Dragonbone Weapons_chinese.esp ValkyrieArmor.esp ScarletDawnArmor.esp EbonyValkyrie.esp TIS_Spell_ManaShield.esp NB-Scars.esp 3swordsonback.esp n_DaedraFlayer.esp valkyrja.esp Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp Billyro Swords.esp OrdinaryWeapons_ENG.esp The Thegn.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp The Stamford.esp 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp Headtracking.esp skyforgedWeapons.esp PlayRandomIdle.esp Glowtastic.esp dovahkiinrelax.esp Lilarcor.esp 3DNPC.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp AncientDraugr.esp TM_Draugr.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Unique - DLC Dawnguard.esp RaceMenu.esp ASIS-Dependency.esp ASIS.esp GELO_Vanilla_Base_File.esp GELO_Dawnguard_Base_File.esp GELO_Dragonborn_Base_File.esp GELO_Patcher_Build.esp thats why i specifically asked if anyone was familiar with the problem, so i wouldnt have to post that wall. it has rarely helped to have someone casually browse through it. the problem im having, specifically, is highly erratic damage ratings. the spikes are incredible, such that a generic untempered 2h axe wielded by a bandit will kill me outright. the power attacks are disastrously strong, and totally unsurvivable.
judge0 Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm AzarHair.esm ArmedttTeeth.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm GeneralStores.esm hdtHighHeel.esm HmmWhatToWear.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm SkyMoMod.esm TERAArmors.esm Brawl Bugs CE.esp Morning Fogs.esp Supreme Fog - CoT.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp LIAT - Sounds.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp AK- Placeable Statics.esp Dienes_Crafting_Storage(GS).esp EbonyCrownCraftable.esp ElvenCrownCraftable.esp FreeMem.esp GeneralStoresBreezehome.esp GeneralStoresProudspire.esp High Level Enemies.esp High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp high level enemies - raised ability caps.esp HigherLevelEnemies.esp higherlevelenemies_dawnguard.esp LIAT - NPCs.esp Loadscreens Extended.esp MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SexLabSquirt.esp ShootingStars.esp vallespmodel.esp Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp Mart's Savegame DeBloatifier.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuOverlays.esp SkyTweak.esp vAutosaveManager.esp SkyUI.esp Customizable Camera.esp TKDodge.esp AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp Ancient Skyforge Armor.esp AncientBladeWeapons.esp Andragorn's Armoury.esp Armored Bikini - UNPB BBP.esp BFPU Orcish Armor.esp Black Lotus.esp BlackSacramentArmor.esp BlackWisteria.esp Bondage Straps - UNPB BBP.esp BoundArmors.esp ConanSwords.esp CrainteVomir.esp DaedricCrownCraftable.esp UNP Jewelry.esp DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp dragonslayer.esp Earth Breaker.esp FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp FJ_TsunArmor.esp FullMetalBikini.esp Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp Ghosu - Project Flintlock - Ammo Addon.esp Ghosu - SkullHelmet.esp Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp HentaiVoidArmor.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Immersive Weapons.esp isilNarsil.esp Lady of Death.esp LFDarksidersWarSet.esp Lich King's Armor.esp Lore Weapon Expansion.esp Malo_Waffen.esp maruMask.esp MashupUNP.esp Melt_Down_Everything.esp NobleArtifacts_ENG.esp NewmillerPiercings2.esp NewmillerPiercings3.esp nightshade_armor.esp nightshade_armor_hvy.esp Pauldrons.esp R18Pn - Torumekian Armor.esp R18Pn - Leere Armor.esp R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp R18Pn - Argent Iron Armor - blessedbody.esp Raven Witch Armor.esp RegnPiercings.esp Remodeled Armor.esp selobl_Diano.esp Sexy Armor Package.esp Silverlight Armor.esp SkaalHeavyArmor.esp TERAArmors.esp TERA Weapons.esp Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp Unique Uniques.esp UNPArmoredBikini.esp UNPB Barbarian Armor.esp Veteran Nord Plate.esp WarArmor.esp wow.esp WWW.esp zzDraugrParts.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp DeadlyDragons.esp DeadlyMonsters.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp Portal.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Spellblade.esp TheMadMasker.esp Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp Thunderchild - Dragon Language Words Patch.esp alcoholiceffect.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Differently Ebony.esp Grass On Steroids.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Rebirth Monster.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dawnguard-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp dD-Dragonborn-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp SpectacularNightEye.esp Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp Zarias_Piercings1.esp zzEstrus.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp BFT Ships and Carriages.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Dawnguard.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp prod80_CoT_patch.esp DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp Better Vampires.esp DMCVampirelordFemalePlayer.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ASX_Spells.esp MidasSkyrim.esp Midas Magic Expanded.esp Colorful_Magic.esp Dwemerverse - Dwarven Magic Package.esp KarlitosSpells.esp Levitate - Morrowind Edition.esp Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp Phenderix's Magic Transcended.esp SSAPBWK.esp FNISspells.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp Teleport.esp Teleport-DG Plugin.esp Teleport-DB Plugin.esp BetterMagic_FULL.esp HM Enchanting Unlocker.esp UltimateCombat.esp ACE Realistic Fighting.esp Eld-unarmedCombat.esp StrongEnemyXtreme.esp The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp ACE BYOG.esp ACE Speech.esp ACE Archery.esp ACE Armor.esp ACE Enchanting.esp ACE Melee.esp ACE Smithing.esp ACE Synergy.esp Vampirelordroyal.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp vImmersiveBeds.esp Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp Fh hairs-by zzjay.esp MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp N_43 Hair Pack.esp zzDreadlocks.esp FlansEyesForSkrim.esp innovaeyes.esp BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp RaceMenuFreckleOverlays.esp WyldMenuPlugFemale.esp WyldMenuPlugMale.esp SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp CharGen ECE Morphs.esp Extra Scars.esp Reanimate FX.esp ThatsRacist.esp thatsracist-mfrp-5sec.esp BloodyFacials.esp DTHSpellMageArmorEffectReplacerNoEffect.esp ImmersiveWater3.esp BVandRB_Formlist.esp The Asteria - Dwemer Airship(GS).esp Dragonbone Weapons_chinese.esp ValkyrieArmor.esp ScarletDawnArmor.esp EbonyValkyrie.esp TIS_Spell_ManaShield.esp NB-Scars.esp 3swordsonback.esp n_DaedraFlayer.esp valkyrja.esp Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp Billyro Swords.esp OrdinaryWeapons_ENG.esp The Thegn.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp The Stamford.esp 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp Headtracking.esp skyforgedWeapons.esp PlayRandomIdle.esp Glowtastic.esp dovahkiinrelax.esp Lilarcor.esp 3DNPC.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp AncientDraugr.esp TM_Draugr.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Unique - DLC Dawnguard.esp RaceMenu.esp ASIS-Dependency.esp ASIS.esp GELO_Vanilla_Base_File.esp GELO_Dawnguard_Base_File.esp GELO_Dragonborn_Base_File.esp GELO_Patcher_Build.esp thats why i specifically asked if anyone was familiar with the problem, so i wouldnt have to post that wall. it has rarely helped to have someone casually browse through it. the problem im having, specifically, is highly erratic damage ratings. the spikes are incredible, such that a generic untempered 2h axe wielded by a bandit will kill me outright. the power attacks are disastrously strong, and totally unsurvivable. Actually, it is REALLY helpful to post that. First thing you can tell from posting that wall is that your load order is borked. Bashed patch should be last in the list. I'll bet a handful of septims, you're using BOSS still. Try LOOT, it has a current masterlist. http://loot.github.io/ After you get the load order issues sorted out, if your issue persists post again.
darkconsole Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 for me it was because i accidentally bumped it up to expert from adept. >_> at level 12 it was pitting level 19 bandits who could one shot me with a bow, while my bow does about 1.5% of their health.
Elizinator Posted August 3, 2014 Author Posted August 3, 2014 load order is that way intentionally. ASIS and GELO and their dependencies should be after bashed patch, and Unique.esp and RaceMenu simply do not work if loaded before bashed patch, so i put them there intentionally. other than those reservations, that load order is according to LOOT. plus, this 1-shot problem is relatively new, while that load order is not. EDIT: it is not simply a difficulty problem, it is a consistency problem. non-power attacks will just chip at my hitpoints; arrows from 100 yards away kill me instantly with 500 health and capped armour. power attacks with untempered wimp weapons - listed as "80 damage" kill my flat out. its pretty clearly multiple multipliers being applied somewhere, to disastrous effect
judge0 Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 This mod has lots of complaints from users getting one-hit killed at higher levels, maybe deactivate it. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/27866/? BTW, I use Race Menu and have never had to place it manually
Elizinator Posted August 3, 2014 Author Posted August 3, 2014 thanks, ill give it a try without that one, but i suspect that ill have to wait for 30 days in qasmoke for ASIS to repopulate everything before i notice any difference. and eyah, i f this starts kicking in at high level, im 89, so i can only imagine that some things done scale well up that high. as far as race menu, if i dont manually place it, a bunch of options dont appear - warpaints and such. i doubt strongly that it is affecting bandit archers =/
darkconsole Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 last time i ran one of those load order tools, BOSS i think it was, everything fucked up. when i looked at the load orders after i wanted to kill myself. took me an hour to sort them properly again.
judge0 Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 That mod also appears to have been abandoned, other random users are supplying support. If you're level 89, when you do get ASIS repopulated most enemies will be pretty easy, try DF Random Encounters.
judge0 Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 last time i ran one of those load order tools, BOSS i think it was, everything fucked up. when i looked at the load orders after i wanted to kill myself. took me an hour to sort them properly again. BOSS has been laid to rest, use LOOT - http://loot.github.io/
Elizinator Posted August 4, 2014 Author Posted August 4, 2014 That mod also appears to have been abandoned, other random users are supplying support. If you're level 89, when you do get ASIS repopulated most enemies will be pretty easy, try DF Random Encounters. how does DFB increase difficulty? i mean, i do want scaled encounters, but HLE appeared to ramp them up to insane levels for some reason. i dont want to be wading through seas of bandits like a demigod either, necessarily. at least not ALL bandits.
Grail Quest Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 so that my problem. this started happening recently, and i have no idea why. my character has armor rating north of 900, and 500 hp, ... all thats happening is that power attacks with 2-handed weapons and bows deal WAY too much damage. This sounds quite strange since vanilla power attacks and difficulty modifiers wouldn't cause a huge discrepency between power and non-power attacks. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Damage#Difficulty_Level At most a power attack doubles damage. Could be a power damage plus critical strike. Something you could try http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/32657/? to display your hidden stats and see if there are any damaged or modified stats.
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