TES5 Edit, Can't fully clean Dawnguard.esp

[AstarteN7]

I have repeated the basic cleaning process of Bethesda's master files and dawnguard.esp is always left with 6 dirty edits. The rest has been erased but the last 6 seems to stay.

 

Is this normal?

[johann7124]

Which version of Tes5edit are you using?

[uiowebae]

going by Gopher video on cleaning masters(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3g_N1jcZQ) its normal or at least from what i heard

[AstarteN7]

I downloaded the latest version of TES5 Edit, so that shouldn't be the issue. It might just be a normal thing but I wanted to know if anyone else have this as well. 

[uiowebae]

I downloaded the latest version of TES5 Edit, so that shouldn't be the issue. It might just be a normal thing but I wanted to know if anyone else have this as well. 

ya is happens to me as well for one reason or other tes5edit cant get at some of the dirty edits, so until someone whose a modder or even gurus like Gopher says otherwise i just throw it up as such.

[shedidwhat]

i also have it.

 

so the problem is either the ESM is not being truly cleaned

or its a problem with the program thats telling you the ESM is not cleaned.

 

I say its LOOT thats wrong.

 

this is what LOOT says after I have cleaned the ESM.

 

Dawnguard.esm
CRC: 31FEA081
Add: Delev, Relev
Warning: Contains 6 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.

[Androktone]

That's what mine says:

 

Dawnguard.esm

CRC: F7D3C379

Add: Delev, Relev

 

As you can see, the control sum is different.

[srayesmanll]

Did you try cleaning a second time?  I wonder if it's because when you clean the DLCS, usually people clean the ITMs first, then the UDRs, and then by doing the UDRs (which undeletes and marks things as unused), the new "unused" things become ITM records themselves.  A second cleaning always gets rid of them for me (I read somewhere that's all you need to do, a second ITM cleaning on Dawnguard DLC).

 

 

EDIT:

 

Found this bit of info in the LOOT forum pages (found here:  http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1476559-cleaning-mods-issue/?do=findComment&comment=23083843 ):

 

 

About those secondary cleaned records.

[CELL:0000713B] contains a deleted reference which belongs to another cell in Skyrim.esm, when it is undeleted TES5Edit moves it to original cell and this cell becomes ITM.
[REFR:000CCE09] and [REFR:000CCE05] are persistent references in Skyrim.esm, Dawnguard.esm removes persistence flag from them but they are referenced in ONAM list of overridden refs in plugin header. When saving the dawnguard after the first cleaning TES5Edit restores persistence flag on references in ONAM list (ok I admit I don't know why, it is programmed to do so since fallouts) and they become ITM with their parent cell [CELL:000CCDAA].

So I think nothing serious here, just glitches in Dawnguard.esm