Skyrim crashes on startup, but worked previously

[Skyrimfloo]

So, I come here after trying all I could think of to check what might be wrong with my mods, and not being able to find the issue.

 

I run Skyrim through Mod Organizer, legit copy, got Steam running fine and stuff. All mods have been sorted by BOSS (and LOOT, I tried that as well) checked and cleaned by TES5Edit, patched by Wrye Bash, etc., I use the memory patch and have followed all the Skyrim optimization guide to the letter.

 

My load order (with BOSS) is the following:

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
OBlHairFinal.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Xvision Children.esm
SexLab.esm
portal2mod.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
animal fat.esp
Rainbows.esp
ADS.esp
AOS.esp
BWS.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
DragonShoutVoice.esp
IHSS.esp
Immersive Sounds - Aural Assortment.esp
Immersive Sounds - Footsteps.esp
Immersive Sounds - Magic.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
TradeBarter.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
ClamsDropPearls.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
donorcollegejoin.esp
EpisodeParallax.esp
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
FishingInSkyrim.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
Point The Way.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
Traps Make Noise.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
WetandCold - Holidays.esp
iNeed.esp
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
NoxUE2.00.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenuNails.esp
SkyTweak.esp
SkyUI.esp
iHUD.esp
LessIntrusiveHUD.esp
TKDodge.esp
AsharaDimonizedDress.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Elemental Staves.esp
ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp
WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp
WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Lady of Death.esp
SuccubusCBBE3GiftByNausicaa&Cybertron77.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
NewVampChainsCuirass.esp
PrinceandPauper.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Equipping Overhaul.esp
Scary Ghost.esp
SkyRe_Main.esp
SkyRe_Main_Fix.esp
SkyRe_Combat.esp
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
SkyRe_EnemyScaling_Fix.esp
SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
SkyRe_StandingStones_Fix.esp
SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
AdalMatar.esp
lpbards.esp
Black Books Begone.esp
BBB Scroll Rack.esp
DragonmournInn.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
Luggage.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
TheDomain.esp
TheFrontier.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
Enhanced Shouts.esp
Thunderchild - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.esp
towBlockSteal.esp
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
Distant DetailHF.esp
DiversePriests.esp
DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp
GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_SFO.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
Khajiit Merchants Buy Stolen Items.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
ORM Convenient Alsvid.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
Soul Gems Differ - E.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
Open Cities Skyrim.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp
IShdr1bloom0_Skyrim.esp
IShdr1bloom0_Dawnguard.esp
IShdr1bloom0_Dragonborn.esp
ESFCompanions.esp
WerewolfMastery.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Apocalypse - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.esp
HitStop.esp
SmartCast_1_0.esp
DragonFire.esp
DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp
InvestedMagic-SkyReCompatible.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp
Locational Damage.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
TKRecoil.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
eyes for elves.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
FreckleMania.esp
Tribal Tattoo Overlays.esp
QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp
3DNPC.esp
3DNPC+InconNPC+OCS.esp
PNP_InterestingNPC.esp
3DNPC+QaxesWR.esp
Inigo.esp
Seductress Serana.esp
moveitLWT.esp
NonEssentialChildren.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
SkyRe_Races.esp
SkyRe_Races_Fix.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
EEO patch.esp
Interesting NPCs - EEO patch.esp
DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
RealShelter.esp
SeeEnchs.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
AOS2_DCOd Patch.esp
AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
AFT_iNPCFix.esp
HearthfireMultikid_PNP Patch.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeopleEEOPatch.esp
Xvision Children - 3DNPC.esp
Xvision Children - NEC.esp
Xvision Children - CoInc PaP.esp
STEP Core Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
ReProccer.esp

 

 

 

(You may notice I'm running SexLab without adult mods; I'm testing SkyRe and I only needed SexLab's PapyrusUtil for SOS beta... Don't worry, I'll install more perv mods when this works, lol).

 

I've tried loading all my mods in TES5Edit to see if it gave any error, but it doesn't. I also checked them in Wrye Bash for any warnings, but none showed up. As a last resort, I disabled all my mods and tried to load the game clean through MO, which worked, so I started activating mods until I got to the culprit... Which happened to be SexLab. When I deactivate SexLab in MO (the whole mod, not the .esm file) the game loads fine. When I activate SexLab in MO but disable the .esm file, it still doesn't work. I've tried reinstalling the mod to see if something got messed somehow, but to no avail. I've also tried disabling all mods except SexLab to see if the problem is a conflict with another mod, but nope, the game crashes even with only SexLab & requirements only enabled.

 

The important thing is that (as far as I know) I didn't change anything in a couple days, it used to work until yesterday morning, then for some reason it stopped working in the evening. The only thing that happened yesterday was that the computer froze while I was playing and I had to forcefully restart it, which I suppose is the cause, but I honestly have no idea of what to to do fix this (apart from not using SexLab, which I would love to).

 

Any ideas?

[visby]

Well I see you don't have the race compatibility esm but I don't know if XVision Children need it or not and I didn't notice any other race mods so you might not need it. Since your running MO like me that means you can run a completely vanilla version of the game, what happens when you start up a normal vanilla version from steam?

[Skyrimfloo]

Well I see you don't have the race compatibility esm but I don't know if XVision Children need it or not and I didn't notice any other race mods so you might not need it.

 

Xvision is just a head replacer for children, it doesn't alter their races and I'm not using any other custom races. And as I'm saying, the game worked fine with this exact setup prior to the computer's freeze. If I had required that mod previously, the game whouldn't have ever worked with that mod list.

 

Since your running MO like me that means you can run a completely vanilla version of the game, what happens when you start up a normal vanilla version from steam?

 

As I said, the game works fine when I disable SexLab. If I start it with Steam or directly from the SKSE loader it will also work fine. If I start it with MO with all mods disabled but SexLab, it crashes. If I disable SexLab.esm, but keep the mod files active, it crashes as well. The problem doesn't seem to be a compatibility issue, there's something that is included with SexLab files that for some reason is fucking with my game, even though it didn't do before.

[nutluck]

I am guessing you have but have you tried deleting sexlab and doing a new clean download and install of it? Maybe something got messed up during the download.

[Skyrimfloo]

I am guessing you have but have you tried deleting sexlab and doing a new clean download and install of it? Maybe something got messed up during the download.

 

Did, and didn't work. Also the mod used to work before, so the download doesn't seem to be the cause. I got a new one just in case, but didn't fix anything.

 

Whatever is the conflict, maybe for some reason my game got fucked when the computer froze, but the game is working when I don't use SexLab, so I don't have a damn clue. It's like the game broke so that only SexLab doesn't work, and that's fucking retarded.

 

Is there anything saved by the game or the mod that could have been fucked up, that only SexLab uses? I know the saves are not corrupted because I can load them fine if I disable SexLab in MO (i simply get the message of a missing .esp file and that SOS is missing the PapyrusUtil stuff that is included with SexLab), and the game crashes even before the Bethesda logo pops out so it shouldn't be related to them, but what else could it be?

[nutluck]

Well if you had a game freeze I suppose it is possible it broke something in one of the skyrim files that sexlab uses. Seems highly unlikely but I can't really think of anything else that would make this be happening.

 

You could try running a verification on steam and maybe steam will find a broken skyrim file and replace it. Of course doing that means redoing your ini file if you made changes to it and doing a clean edit on your esp's again.

[Skyrimfloo]

I actually reinstalled Skyrim doing the verification thing. Tried the game with the mods without first cleaning the files, then cleaning them in TES5Edit (just in case). It doesn't work. I don't know what the fuck is going on, but the problem isn't the game itself, either.

 

This is a matter of honor already. I'm going to find what the hell is causing this even if I can't play the game in a month. Fuck it.

[nutluck]

Yeah that doesn't make sense.

[Skyrimfloo]

Ok, I just found the fucker, and I guess it was my fault for not being thorought enough when checking stuff (after all the crap I did, lol).

 

The problem was the StorageUtil.save file that SexLab's included PapyrusUtil creates. I'm not sure of how does this file get updated, but I suppose that it coincidentally got fucked by the computer freeze. I had this file in the Overwrite folder in MO, and I hadn't disabled it when testing for incompatibilities, because 1) I didn't think about it, and 2) The game worked already with that folder active, since it needed SexLab installed for the file to be accessed, so that made me completely forget about that.

 

I had to erase it and let the game create a new one, and now it works. Fortunately I have only one mod that uses that function (SOS beta), but for mods that store important stuff in there such as Beeing Female this might be really troublesome.

 

Anyways, this is solved. Thanks for your replies, people.

[nutluck]

Very cool you found your problem and got it fixed. But a bit surprised if you could not reinstall things and have them work correctly. Not sure why that file spazzed out but seems if you reinstalled it that the new one would not cause a issue.

[Skyrimfloo]

The problem is that this file gets placed in MO in the Overwrite folder since it's not originally part of any mod, so MO doesn't know where else to put it. So unless I cleaned it, I could have reinstalled all my 350+ mods and the game itself, and it would still be there. The only way was to clean the Overwrite folder, which I didn't because I though it had only BodySlide meshes, the bashed patch and some CharGen presets, and the file needed SexLab as well to do any harm.

 

Actually, that's precisely the reason for the recommendation of emptying the Overwrite folder and making a proper "Overwrite mod" that you can enable and disable. But I don't do that because I prefer to keep my mods as clean as possible, and the stuff that gets placed in the Overwrite folder are usually temporal files generated automatically by other mods, like SKSE logs, so if I wanted to do a clean reinstall and start over, I only need to erase that folder.

 

So, the morals of the story is that you shouldn't forget about the stuff in the Overwrite folder when checking for conflicts. Most stuff there is harmless, but some of the files stored are indeed capable of crashing your game at startup. If that happens, the safest thing to do is to use the right-click option on the Overwrite folder to "create mod", and disable it too.

[nutluck]

Ah ok I get what you mean now.