HDT Installation Issue

medic975 · February 13, 2014

I'm trying to install HDT support and have so far been unsuccessful. I'm running through as many of the posts as I can find and following the installation as I come across them, but I seem to be missing something.

I'm unable to provide a HDT log as one hasn't been produced yet. But I'll post what I have below.

I was first able to get the game working somewhat. Everything running smooth with the exception of when I looted a female Stormcloak and later a female Vampire the breasts shot straight up from the body stretching out weirdly. Pictures of this in the spoilers below.

This only seems to happen to NPCs.

Another issue is that when I run or jump on my character I get a weird squishing effect as shown in the pictures below.

So I looked through the forums and then deleted all my files to start anew on the HDT install.

I started here. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25482-setup-step-by-step-setup-basics-for-hdt-physics-extension/

Followed the steps and swapped my 7b body out for Blabba's 7B v4 body.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25750-hdt-body/

I then downloaded Groovtama's new XPS skeleton

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25971-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/

Then installed the physics 10-24 tried it both in a Mod Organizer mod folder and directly in the skyrim/data/skse/plugins folder.

I uninstalled the Hair HDT as I read in one of the threads it could cause the crushing I was seeing on my character.

Tried to load up the game and I can make a new character or load one that's in the Alternate Start Prison, but once I click on the bed I CTD. If I try to load a game I CTD after the loading screen pops up.

I can disable HDT and I just use the TBBP animations, however I still get the boob stretching.

I then went to this thread and attached HDT to all the femalehead files in my game. (I have quite a few custom followers with their own heads.)

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/26835-hdt-breast-collision-for-realy-all-armors-with-3-adjustments-without-hdt-havok-object/

I tried connecting the string data to both skse\plugins\ htdPhysicsExtentensionDefault.xml and when that didn't work I tried skse\plugins\hdt.xml

Same problem I can start a new game or load into the prison, but when I click on the bed CTD. Load CTD.

I then read in one of the help threads that I needed to remove Racemenu because of the NetImmerse Override dll. I did so, and still no joy.

At this point I'm out of ideas. If any of you could help, I'd appreciate it as I would love to get more educated on HDT and use it in my game.

Below are Images, My Load order, and my SKSE log output.

First images of what I'm seeing when I can get the game going.

My SKSE Log

SKSE runtime: initialize (version = 1.7.0 09200000 01CF28AE5C2E1586, os = 6.1 (7601))

imagebase = 00400000

runtime root = G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\

config path = G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\skse.ini

plugin directory = G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\

checking plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\CFM_extensions.dll

plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\CFM_extensions.dll (00000001 skse_categorized_favorites_menu 00000003) loaded correctly

checking plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\CellStabilizer.dll

plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\CellStabilizer.dll (00000001 Player Physics 00000001) loaded correctly

checking plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\Fuz Ro D'oh.dll

plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\Fuz Ro D'oh.dll (00000001 Fuz Ro D'oh 06018195) loaded correctly

checking plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\MemoryBlocksLog.dll

plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\MemoryBlocksLog.dll (00000001 MemoryBlocksLog plugin 00000001) loaded correctly

checking plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\MfgConsole.dll

plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\MfgConsole.dll (00000001 Mfg Console plugin 00000002) loaded correctly

checking plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\SafetyLoad.dll

plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\SafetyLoad.dll (00000001 Safety Load plugin 00000002) loaded correctly

checking plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\StorageUtil.dll

plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\StorageUtil.dll (00000001 papyrusutil plugin 00000001) loaded correctly

checking plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\chargen.dll

plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\chargen.dll (00000001 chargen 00000002) loaded correctly

checking plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\hdtHighHeelNative.dll

plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\hdtHighHeelNative.dll (00000001 hdtHighHeelNative 00000001) loaded correctly

checking plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll

plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll (00000001 hdtPhysicsExtensions 00000001) loaded correctly

checking plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\showRaceMenu_preCacheKiller.dll

plugin G:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\showRaceMenu_preCacheKiller.dll (00000001 ShowRaceMenu preCacheKiller plugin 00000001) loaded correctly

init complete

My Load order

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Falskaar.esm

Wyrmstooth.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

OblivionHairPackAIO.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

FoxHome_X.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

RCOTS-RACES.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

SPIKE.esm

TERAArmors.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

SharedSeranaDialogue.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

EpisodeParallax.esp

NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp

Legionettes.esp

LoversComfort.esp

Real Clouds.esp

SWT1.2.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp

The Coenaculi.esp

SkyUI.esp

7B_DragonbornArmors.esp

ADEC_SuccubusArmor.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Ancient Skyforge Armor.esp

Aradia Gold Lady.esp

Aradia Lace Dress.esp

Aradia Lingerie Dress.esp

BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp

AradiaKatoArmor.esp

AradiaRogueArmor.esp

GothiChix.esp

7B Barbarian Armor.esp

ScarletDawnArmor.esp

Davjes_7BSorceressArmorHHS.esp

NewmillerCeremonialRobes.esp

La Mer.esp

Island Hobbit Home.esp

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp

BBP_ArmorPack.esp

BBP_ArmorPack2.esp

BFPU Orcish Armor.esp

BlackWisteria.esp

Bouncy-Bodices-Booties-Belts-Stockings.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

Daedric Extra Armor.esp

DAO Morrigan's Robes.esp

DarkStringArmor.esp

Devious Devices - Integration.esp

Devious Devices - FtMOutfitsDB - merge.esp

Devious Devices - For the Masses -DB- Outfits.esp

DF_T33.esp

Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp

DreamBurrowPatchWorkMaiden.esp

Ehildils Mithril Armors.esp

evilarmor.esp

Field Mage Outfit.esp

FJ_TsunArmor.esp

Forbidden Ebony Armor.esp

fox31 Armor.esp

FS_UltimateAssortment.esp

GattiBondage0.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Huntress.esp

LadyKdCirclets.esp

KURESE Gloria conversion.esp

Lethal Majesty.esp

Lich King's Armor.esp

LustmordVampireArmor.esp

MinaArmors.esp

Neo's Kitten.esp

Neo's Mandu Armours.esp

Neo's Scouter Set.esp

Neo's Devilmaid2.esp

NeoInpouArmour.esp

NewmGlassRobe.esp

NewmillerSuccubusBikini.esp

NewmillerSuccubusBoots.esp

NewVampChainsCuirass.esp

NewVampChainsGloves.esp

nightshade_armor_UNPB.esp

Northgirl.esp

Osare Underwear.esp

R18Pn - Heilige Mutter Armor.esp

R18Pn - Diano Armor.esp

Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp

ShadowRose.esp

ShreddedTrissMash.esp

Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp

Strap.esp

StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp

svs Pretty Ranger.esp

TBBP_Black Leather Thief.esp

TERAArmors.esp

TERAArmors - Leveled Lists.esp

TERA Boots n Greaves - for HDT.esp

UNP Undies.esp

UNPB Barbarian Armor.esp

Veteran Nord Plate.esp

ViceroyInquisitor.esp

WestWindAssault.esp

WestWindMisfit.esp

Witch Of The Wild.esp

wjun28.esp

XiNafay - Kitty Corset.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

MIDFollowMeCloser.esp

Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp

Captured Dreams.esp

Conan_Hyborian_Age.esp

Devious Deviants.esp

Dragonsmount.esp

ElysiumEstate.esp

ElysiumEstate-DG.esp

ElysiumEstate-HF.esp

ElysiumEstate-DB.esp

Falskaar Home Improvement.esp

flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp

hallsofdovahndor.esp

My Home Is Your Home.esp

Queen of the damned-Akasha Dress.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

TradersChest.esp

Vjarkell Castle.esp

Dragonsmount_library_addon.esp

Halfmoon Tradingpost 1.2.esp

Differently Ebony.esp

RV markers.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

SexLab Romance.esp

SexLab Solutions.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp

altvamplord.esp

FNISspells.esp

DraugrSkirts_Havok.esp

SexLab Cumshot.esp

ForswornHAIR.esp

LovelyHairstylesCE.esp

numenume Hair.esp

SGEyebrows.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

dagi_raht_race.esp

3DNPC.esp

SBF All In One + DLC.esp

Aeri.esp

Arlana the Axe Maiden.esp

Brothers.esp

CamillaValerius.esp

Companionsguildrevamp.esp

DanarielStormbow.esp

dunDarklightIllia.esp

Haelga.esp

Hanali.esp

Hroki.esp

Kate.esp

RaccanFollower.esp

Ra'ZorFollower.esp

MorthanaFollower.esp

JoRakhaFollower.esp

Nakum'aFollower.esp

RusselFollower.esp

SantanaFollower.esp

EirukiFollower.esp

BagamuFollower.esp

ZarjiFollower.esp

HuskerFollower.esp

ThromaireFollower.esp

Marriable Serana.esp

Saadia.esp

BVFE_Serana.esp

SMSkyrim.esp

SMSkyrim - Dragonborn.esp

SMSkyrim - PrettyFace.esp

Sylgja.esp

Viszerinfollower.esp

Khaliza of Gilane.esp

Taarie.esp

Ysolda.esp

ViolaGiordano.esp

Anwen.esp

Endarie.esp

augustine.esp

Senna.esp

cuteLydia.esp

SexLab_DibellaCult.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

khajiit_replacer.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

Purewaters.esp

Purewaters-Falskaar.esp

CD-Tera Armors addon.esp

SpousesEnhanced.esp

SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp

SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp

Location Override.esp

Armor Patch.esp

NPC Patch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

RandomOne · February 13, 2014

Unless I'm mistaken I believe it's Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml or Data\SKSE\Plugins\HDT.xml depending on which your using for collision. HDT Havok Path being the string name of coarse. After you do that remember to go back to NiNode and set the Num Extra Data List to 1 and set the Extra Data List - Ref<NiExtraData> to whatever number NiStringExtraData has which for me is usually 1. Save , replace and should be good to go.

Oh, and how many FemaleHead.nifs do you have ? I got like um lemme count em up...1.

medic975 · February 13, 2014

Thank you, I'll try that when I get home. I know I didn't set the Num Extra Data List to 1. So hopefully that's my issue. I have 8 heads, I think, Kate, SMS, Danariel, Hanali, and some of Falmer Bane's heads. Not entirely sure as I'm not in front of my PC. I did try both with and without the Data. So I'm hoping the list to 1 is my ticket.

Isn't hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml just HDT.xml renamed? I know there's a male .xml file as well which I'll be working on as well.

medic975 · February 14, 2014

Well I'm at a loss. I have partial working HDT. The earrings, Draugur Skirts, and Hair are all showing but not the body. The body looks right now, it just doesn't jiggle with either BBP animations or HDT.

Havok Log shows that the serialize file is invalid.

Does it point to somewhere else when You don't have the file in with the head folder and it's only in the SKSE slot?

I use Mod Organizer and it's in the SKSE in the overwrite folder there. Could that be an issue?

In my SKSE file I have

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll

hdt

hdtm

hdtPhysicsExtensions

[02/14/14 15:23:19]INFO: Queue OK

[02/14/14 15:23:19]INFO: System run with 8 threads

[02/14/14 15:23:19]INFO: Havok simulated world created.

[02/14/14 15:23:19]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load

[02/14/14 15:24:04]INFO: Suspending ... Mist Menu

[02/14/14 15:32:08]INFO: Resuming... Cursor Menu

[02/14/14 15:32:09]INFO: Suspending ... Loading Menu

[02/14/14 15:32:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\Vioxsis\HDT Earring\BJDK.xml

[02/14/14 15:32:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\numenume\hair\hdtHairTest\hdtHairAmyB4.XML

[02/14/14 15:32:35]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\numenume\hair\hdtHairTest\hdtHairAmyB4.XML

[02/14/14 15:32:36]INFO: Resuming... Fader Menu

[02/14/14 15:32:36]INFO: Suspending ... MessageBoxMenu

[02/14/14 15:32:39]INFO: Resuming... Cursor Menu

[02/14/14 15:32:39]INFO: Cell changed...

[02/14/14 15:32:39]ERROR: Load "Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml" error - file no exist

[02/14/14 15:32:39]WARNING: Invalid havok serialize file : Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

[02/14/14 15:32:39]ERROR: Load "Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml" error - file no exist

[02/14/14 15:32:39]WARNING: Invalid havok serialize file : Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

[02/14/14 15:32:40]ERROR: Load "Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml" error - file no exist

[02/14/14 15:32:40]WARNING: Invalid havok serialize file : Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml