CAS bullshitery??

[ghostpervy]

Hi everyone, I recently started playing The Sims 4 after a wave of nostalgia for The Sims 3 lololol. Well, I never have the patience to create characters from scratch, so I usually just hit "randomize" until something I like pops up; then I tweak it a bit and start the game (^_^) BUT something caught my attention during the randomization process: for some reason, 9 times out of 10, the character shows up with dark skin (I'm Black, btw)..... WHY???? Did this only happen to me? Are the creators pushing agendas in a life simulation game?? WTF is going on??? I don't like playing with very dark-skinned Sims because it's hard to see the details. PS: Why does The Sims 4 seem to have worse gameplay than its predecessor, The Sims 3?
PPS: I actually counted, and at one point I had to randomize 25 times just to get a "light-skinned" character O_o

[ghostpervy]

Oh, even in the suggested scenario modes, most of them feature dark-skinned characters too.🙃

[Siemann]

Gambler's fallacy. I rarely roll dark skin on my randoms, so unless you've got mods that are skewing the selectable skintones, you're just surfing the tail of the curve.

 

23 minutes ago, ghostpervy said:

PS: Why does The Sims 4 seem to have worse gameplay than its predecessor, The Sims 3?

 

Because it was an MMO hastily repacked as a flagship release, and its decade-plus of addons has turned it into a bloated chimera of spaghetti code. The only reason I even got it was for the sexmods, and with Paralives gone gold and much more mod-friendly, we'll see how long that appeal lasts.

[flybox]

50 minutes ago, ghostpervy said:

I'm Black, btw

Uh huh.

[Faolon]

I always roll freaky looking characters when I randomize. Like absurdly proportioned. Like if Gru lived in San Francisco. Oddly shaped body, every piercing, randomly colored hair with mismatched eyebrows, and it's always the worst of the available hairstyles. Their clothes are awful, too. Like the wardrobe designer from the more recent Dr. Who series' was in charge of deciding it.

[SilentAegis]

17 hours ago, ghostpervy said:

Hi everyone, I recently started playing The Sims 4 after a wave of nostalgia for The Sims 3 lololol. Well, I never have the patience to create characters from scratch, so I usually just hit "randomize" until something I like pops up; then I tweak it a bit and start the game (^_^) BUT something caught my attention during the randomization process: for some reason, 9 times out of 10, the character shows up with dark skin (I'm Black, btw)..... WHY???? Did this only happen to me? Are the creators pushing agendas in a life simulation game?? WTF is going on??? I don't like playing with very dark-skinned Sims because it's hard to see the details. PS: Why does The Sims 4 seem to have worse gameplay than its predecessor, The Sims 3?
PPS: I actually counted, and at one point I had to randomize 25 times just to get a "light-skinned" character O_o

 

Because human beings are very bad at judging randomness. We tend to assume randomness means getting a different result every time, but in reality, streaks can definitely occur. 

Also, your being supposedly black doesn't make this post sound any less racially loaded. Leaping to the assumption that the game is trying to "push an agenda" from something as miniscule as CAS randomization says more about you than anything else. 

Edited July 31 by SilentAegis

[ghostpervy]

On 30/07/2026 at 20:48, Siemann said:

Falácia do jogador. Raramente uso pele escura em minhas roupas aleatórias, então, a menos que você tenha mods que distorçam os tons de pele selecionáveis, você está apenas surfando na curva.

Well, the only mods I use are for expanding options—you know, clothes, objects, careers, interactions, and things like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ghostpervy]

On 7/30/2026 at 9:02 PM, flybox said:

Uh huh.

I hate putting myself out there (photos), which is why I tend to clarify certain points—precisely to minimize the number of idiots (like you, apparently) who tend to scream "RACISM" at every damn sentence.👍 or in this especific case -to doubt any and every statement, even without having *any* prior reference regarding the individual in question (in this case, i) soooo fuckoff ok

[ghostpervy]

On 7/31/2026 at 1:17 PM, SilentAegis said:

 

Because human beings are very bad at judging randomness. We tend to assume randomness means getting a different result every time, but in reality, streaks can definitely occur. 

Also, your being supposedly black doesn't make this post sound any less racially loaded. Leaping to the assumption that the game is trying to "push an agenda" from something as miniscule as CAS randomization says more about you than anything else. 

I understand what "randomness" is, as well as the odds of what happened to me—which happened multiple times (I started two new families and the same thing occurred). I was asking a fair question because I realize the "woke" movement is real and has been spreading for decades, whether you believe it or not (Dragon Age is a perfect example of this), and I thought The Sims might be involved too.

 

As for me being Black—here is my full surname: Hernandez Oliveira Campos. I’m a Brazilian of Greek and Spanish descent, and my mother is Haitian 😑. But I’ve already realized that no idiot here is even going to consider that I’m being genuinely honest... Oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. It won't change my life in the slightest; I was just curious. So, fuck off, I guess?

[ghostpervy]

On 7/31/2026 at 12:46 AM, Faolon said:

I always roll freaky looking characters when I randomize. Like absurdly proportioned. Like if Gru lived in San Francisco. Oddly shaped body, every piercing, randomly colored hair with mismatched eyebrows, and it's always the worst of the available hairstyles. Their clothes are awful, too. Like the wardrobe designer from the more recent Dr. Who series' was in charge of deciding it.

It happened to me too, though not as much with the skin issue. But man 😂 some Sims turned out absurdly disproportionate—extremely narrow hips, huge legs; there was even one with a massive neck—I didn't even know that was possible 😶

[flybox]

1 hour ago, ghostpervy said:

I hate putting myself out there (photos), which is why I tend to clarify certain points—precisely to minimize the number of idiots (like you, apparently) who tend to scream "RACISM" at every damn sentence.👍 or in this especific case -to doubt any and every statement, even without having *any* prior reference regarding the individual in question (in this case, i) soooo fuckoff ok

I never said anything about racism. But by all means, enjoy your time up on that cross.

[SilentAegis]

2 hours ago, ghostpervy said:

I understand what "randomness" is, as well as the odds of what happened to me—which happened multiple times (I started two new families and the same thing occurred). I was asking a fair question because I realize the "woke" movement is real and has been spreading for decades, whether you believe it or not (Dragon Age is a perfect example of this), and I thought The Sims might be involved too.

 

As for me being Black—here is my full surname: Hernandez Oliveira Campos. I’m a Brazilian of Greek and Spanish descent, and my mother is Haitian 😑. But I’ve already realized that no idiot here is even going to consider that I’m being genuinely honest... Oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. It won't change my life in the slightest; I was just curious. So, fuck off, I guess?

 

LOL

[mynewusername]

On 7/30/2026 at 11:12 PM, ghostpervy said:

Hi everyone, I recently started playing The Sims 4 after a wave of nostalgia for The Sims 3 lololol. Well, I never have the patience to create characters from scratch, so I usually just hit "randomize" until something I like pops up; then I tweak it a bit and start the game (^_^) BUT something caught my attention during the randomization process: for some reason, 9 times out of 10, the character shows up with dark skin (I'm Black, btw)..... WHY????

is just random: there are more 'dark' swatches than 'light' swatches, so randomly generated sim is also brown.

[ShaggyDhs]

On 7/30/2026 at 7:12 PM, ghostpervy said:

Hi everyone, I recently started playing The Sims 4 after a wave of nostalgia for The Sims 3 lololol. Well, I never have the patience to create characters from scratch, so I usually just hit "randomize" until something I like pops up; then I tweak it a bit and start the game (^_^) BUT something caught my attention during the randomization process: for some reason, 9 times out of 10, the character shows up with dark skin (I'm Black, btw)..... WHY???? Did this only happen to me? Are the creators pushing agendas in a life simulation game?? WTF is going on??? I don't like playing with very dark-skinned Sims because it's hard to see the details. PS: Why does The Sims 4 seem to have worse gameplay than its predecessor, The Sims 3?
PPS: I actually counted, and at one point I had to randomize 25 times just to get a "light-skinned" character O_o

In my game I see white couples walking around with infants that are black until they get to be kids. Use to think it was a bad default skin until I have no default skin at all, and it still happened. Maybe one of the programmers of the game is into dark skin,

[ghostpervy]

18 hours ago, flybox said:

or in this especific case -to doubt any and every statement, even without having *any* prior reference regarding the individual in question (in this case, i) soooo fuckoff ok

It’s interesting that the quote I added at the end conveniently didn't stick in your memory..... hmmm, I wonder why?🤔

[ghostpervy]

16 hours ago, mynewusername said:

is just random: there are more 'dark' swatches than 'light' swatches, so randomly generated sim is also brown.

Seriously? I'll check that out, tnks.

[ghostpervy]

5 hours ago, ShaggyDhs said:

In my game I see white couples walking around with infants that are black until they get to be kids. Use to think it was a bad default skin until I have no default skin at all, and it still happened. Maybe one of the programmers of the game is into dark skin,

In my game, at least, the NPCs are "normal"—white, Black, kids, and elderly people with various skin tones—but in CAS, it randomizes my Sims with a ridiculous ratio: 9 out of 10 have dark skin (and I mean *really* dark), and the one left over is usually a tan shade or looks totally Asian, lollol, maybe someone realy have a fetish in certains demographics (i dont judge i have too lolololol)

[flybox]

16 hours ago, mynewusername said:

is just random: there are more 'dark' swatches than 'light' swatches, so randomly generated sim is also brown.

Fun fact: this is also true for humans.

[ghostpervy]

21 hours ago, mynewusername said:

is just random: there are more 'dark' swatches than 'light' swatches, so randomly generated sim is also brown.

sooooo.... i gues is it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but why put weirds color in the mix? (like blue, purple) well whatever, tnks

 

In the sims 4,the randomizer can feel uneven because the game pulls from an expanded pool of neutral, warm, cool, and bizarre occult swatches, leading many players on reddit to notice a heavy statistical skew in generated townies.

CAS Randomizer Behavior

• Uneven Weighting: The random selection tool does not always balance light, medium, and dark options equally, often favoring specific color families or newly added palette rows.

• Expanded Swatches: Following major skin tone updates, the sheer volume of deep and unusual color swatches increases the mathematical chance of rolling a darker or saturated tone.

[mynewusername]

10 hours ago, ShaggyDhs said:

In my game I see white couples walking around with infants that are black until they get to be kids. Use to think it was a bad default skin until I have no default skin at all, and it still happened. Maybe one of the programmers of the game is into dark skin,

pure black skin is not a skin tone, just a texture display error: game is simply not displaying any texture because either data not specified or texture not found

 

7 minutes ago, ghostpervy said:

sooooo.... i gues is it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but why put weirds color in the mix? (like blue, purple) well whatever, tnks

i don't think "weird colors" are in mix for normal human sims since they should be tagged as excluded, but every normal tone should be included and unweighted, so since more brown than pale tones exist, most random sims are brown.

 

  

5 hours ago, ghostpervy said:

In my game, at least, the NPCs are "normal"—white, Black, kids, and elderly people with various skin tones—but in CAS, it randomizes my Sims with a ridiculous ratio: 9 out of 10 have dark skin (and I mean *really* dark), and the one left over is usually a tan shade or looks totally Asian, lollol, maybe someone realy have a fetish in certains demographics (i dont judge i have too lolololol)

premade npcs were not randomly generated, they were created by developers.

Edited August 3 by mynewusername

[FauxFurry]

8 hours ago, mynewusername said:

pure black skin is not a skin tone, just a texture display error: game is simply not displaying any texture because either data not specified or texture not found

 

i don't think "weird colors" are in mix for normal human sims since they should be tagged as excluded, but every normal tone should be included and unweighted, so since more brown than pale tones exist, most random sims are brown.

 

  

premade npcs were not randomly generated, they were created by developers.

EAMaxis even added a bunch of new starter sims of various ethnicities with their latest patch so the ratio may be even more skewed now.

https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/news/update-7-21-2026

[ghostpervy]

On 8/3/2026 at 7:38 PM, mynewusername said:

premade npcs were not randomly generated, they were created by developers.

so, i got a bug? meh

[ghostpervy]

so, what about my giraff (long neck) random in cas? and many times, the npcs get an error and they feet stretch and fuse together like they'r underwear fall all the way donw??/ lololol

 

 

Well, errors and bugs aside (and I found quite a few, btw), the issue with the shades shouldn't be happening; theoretically, there are just as many light tones as dark ones, but it seems like no one is really keen on adding light tones to the presets, so you can only get certain light shades if you do it manually. P.S.: It looks like colors like purple, blue, etc., are also affecting the CAS randomizer—someone dug into the files and posted about it on Reddit; some kind of cross-interference in the code?