Paradise Halls - And you get a slave! by Musje - SE Update

[TrollAutokill]

On 6/15/2026 at 11:49 AM, Soronarr said:

I did try the K.

Was thinking of attacking them to see if they will snap out of it.

 

BY console enable/disable, I see the wiki meantion it only stops rendering, scripts on the actors continues running??

 

Will try looking with More Informative Console, thanks

Once you get more informative console you can check active package, scripts, factions and magic effects. If they were stuck in a scene they should reset if you go away for a day and come back later.

 

[Soronarr]

disalbe/enalbe seems ot have done the trick

[Fraying9981]

with this update, can you add any NPC to the innkeeper faction (via console) and sell prostitutes, that sandbox properly in the cell and get jobs?

 

[Fraying9981]

when you sell a slave in a mine to a miner, do they mine?

[sidfu1]

7 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

when you sell a slave in a mine to a miner, do they mine?

if yu seell them they help the owner in whatevwer job the owner is. but you get nothing out ofit

[Fraying9981]

24 minutes ago, sidfu1 said:

if yu seell them they help the owner in whatevwer job the owner is. but you get nothing out ofit

 

thanks, what does it mean? they just follow them or actually do stuff?

I'm asking from the perspective of the newest versions, which I hope expand the basic follow package that was the norm for most slaves in earlier AYGAS versions

[sidfu1]

1 hour ago, Fraying9981 said:

 

thanks, what does it mean? they just follow them or actually do stuff?

I'm asking from the perspective of the newest versions, which I hope expand the basic follow package that was the norm for most slaves in earlier AYGAS versions

they will just rfollow them and sandbox around their owner. not to far away and such. if you want YOUR slaves to get you ore then you  dont sell them you tel them to work when near a node and they will mine/chop fire wood for you and over time get a supply.

[Fraying9981]

14 minutes ago, sidfu1 said:

they will just rfollow them and sandbox around their owner. not to far away and such. if you want YOUR slaves to get you ore then you  dont sell them you tel them to work when near a node and they will mine/chop fire wood for you and over time get a supply.

 

ok thanks. just want to ask are you sure this is not updated in the latest versions? was really hoping they added more functionalities than just follow package.

[TrollAutokill]

On 6/21/2026 at 7:53 AM, Fraying9981 said:

 

ok thanks. just want to ask are you sure this is not updated in the latest versions? was really hoping they added more functionalities than just follow package.

There are a few scenes already in AYGAS. Mostly whipping.

[CrazyGamer0]

After updating, I am not getting any options to sell slaves in the dialogue tree, before your update, I was able to. All I have with me are PAH slaves, but I do have HSH and DoM in my load order.

[TrollAutokill]

32 minutes ago, CrazyGamer0 said:

After updating, I am not getting any options to sell slaves in the dialogue tree, before your update, I was able to. All I have with me are PAH slaves, but I do have HSH and DoM in my load order.

Did you install the standard version or the DOM version? It's also perfectly possible I mixed them up.

[CrazyGamer0]

6 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

Did you install the standard version or the DOM version? It's also perfectly possible I mixed them up.

The DoM version. 

[CrazyGamer0]

20 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

Did you install the standard version or the DOM version? It's also perfectly possible I mixed them up.

I just downloaded the standard and it does seem they were mixed up lol

[TrollAutokill]

2 hours ago, CrazyGamer0 said:

The DoM version. 

Then you can only sell DOM slaves. You need the standard version to sell PAH slaves.

[DonQuiWho]

1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:

Then you can only sell DOM slaves. You need the standard version to sell PAH slaves.

 

Being as thick as a thick thick thickthing on a thick making mouldy cheese sandwich (with apologies to Edmund Blackadder) does this mean that the following routes are those which should work and which we should use

 

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A) If we ONLY have DOM inour load order, we can sell DOM slaves directly

 

 - by using PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.72h_DOM_SSE.7z

 

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BUT

 

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B) if we have PAHE in our load order as well as DOM, to sell DOM slaves we MUST

 

1st : t/f DOM Slaves to PAHE

 

     and only then 

 

2nd : sell the PAHE slaves, either

   

    a) those who have only ever been PAHE slaves

    or

    b) those which are now PAHE slaves having been t/f from DOM

 

- by using PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.72h_SSE.7z 

 

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There are times that I think it would have been simpler to be born a peasant than a pedant or, even worse a pedant peasant 😉

 

DQW

 

Edited June 26 by DonQuiWho

[Fraying9981]

8 minutes ago, DonQuiWho said:

 

Being as thick as a thick thick thickthing on a thick making mouldy cheese sandwich (with apologies to Edmund Blackadder) does this mean that the following routes are those which should work and which we should use

 

------------------

 

A) If we ONLY have DOM inour load order, we can sell DOM slaves directly

 

 - by using PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.72h_DOM_SSE.7z

 

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BUT

 

----------------

 

B) if we have PAHE in our load order as well as DOM, to sell DOM slaves we MUST

 

1st : t/f DOM Slaves to PAHE

 

     and only then 

 

2nd : sell the PAHE slaves, either

   

    a) those who have only ever been PAHE slaves

    or

    b) those which are now PAHE slaves having been t/f from DOM

 

- by using PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.72h_SSE.7z 

 

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There are times that I think it would have been simpler to be born a peasant than a pedant or, even worse a pedant peasant 😉

 

DQW

 

 

i guess i'm going to be the bad cop here and say it: just use DOM, don't use Pah anymore.

[TrollAutokill]

16 minutes ago, DonQuiWho said:

 

Being as thick as a thick thick thickthing on a thick making mouldy cheese sandwich (with apologies to Edmund Blackadder) does this mean that the following routes are those which should work and which we should use

 

------------------

 

A) If we ONLY have DOM inour load order, we can sell DOM slaves directly

 

 - by using PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.72h_DOM_SSE.7z

Yes.

 

16 minutes ago, DonQuiWho said:

 

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BUT

 

----------------

 

B) if we have PAHE in our load order as well as DOM, to sell DOM slaves we MUST

 

1st : t/f DOM Slaves to PAHE

 

     and only then 

 

2nd : sell the PAHE slaves, either

   

    a) those who have only ever been PAHE slaves

    or

    b) those which are now PAHE slaves having been t/f from DOM

 

- by using PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.72h_SSE.7z 

Yes. Though, you can also use PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.72h_DOM_SSE.7z, then you can sell DOM slaves but not PAH slaves.

 

Also with DOM 8.3.1 there is a DOMPAH_AYGAS.esp patch to allow selling both DOM and PAH slaves. It works with both PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.72h_SSE.7z  and PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.72h_DOM_SSE.7 versions.

 

16 minutes ago, DonQuiWho said:

 

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There are times that I think it would have been simpler to be born a peasant than a pedant or, even worse a pedant peasant 😉

 

DQW

 

A pedant paladin is no better.

[DonQuiWho]

10 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

A pedant paladin is no better.

 

Thanks for the reply on the tech stuff

 

And that!  I needed a laugh this morning...

 

DQW

[DonQuiWho]

10 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

 

i guess i'm going to be the bad cop here and say it: just use DOM, don't use Pah anymore.

 

Sure. and that'll be fine for future starts, but I have a current game which has both and is too far progressed to want to go back to the beginning ... 

 

DQW

[Fraying9981]

so some NPCs can buy slaves, others can't.

Here is what I found out playing with addtofaction/removefromfaction with the console:

• JobMerchantFaction, most vanilla factions: having this faction makes a NPC a potential buyer
• IsGuard: prevents purchase
• JobJarlFaction: prevents purchase
• AYGAS aygasOwnerFaction: this doesn't affect ability to purchase

 

Is there a mapping somewhere of all the faction tricks that influence whether a NPC can buy a slave?

[TrollAutokill]

3 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

so some NPCs can buy slaves, others can't.

Here is what I found out playing with addtofaction/removefromfaction with the console:

• JobMerchantFaction, most vanilla factions: having this faction makes a NPC a potential buyer
• IsGuard: prevents purchase
• JobJarlFaction: prevents purchase
• AYGAS aygasOwnerFaction: this doesn't affect ability to purchase

 

Is there a mapping somewhere of all the faction tricks that influence whether a NPC can buy a slave?

Non unique don't buy (guards included). Jarls don't buy just because they don't need, I might put a flag to allow it, but then what happens with the civil war, I don't care. Slavers don't buy from AYGAS. Maybe beggars don't, I need to check that one.

[Fraying9981]

1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:

Non unique don't buy (guards included). Jarls don't buy just because they don't need, I might put a flag to allow it, but then what happens with the civil war, I don't care. Slavers don't buy from AYGAS. Maybe beggars don't, I need to check that one.

 

thanks, i checked in the esp and found some conditions.

it seems there are some race checks as well.

 

the NPC i'm talking to is a priest affiliated to stendarr in the mod Haafstad which adds the region of Kirkmore. His colleague can buy slaves but he can't eventhough i tried to tweak his factions a bit in game. He is unique and not a guard.

 

No big deal, but i was just wondering since I came across this a couple of times in the last year using AYGAS, wondering why more than a few NPCs can't buy slaves.

if it's a problem with persistence or whatever, then why not simply dump the slaves by default like you said about the jarl and civil war examples? after all they are slaves. imo player should be able to sell to anyone, then if there is an edge case somewhere, just dump the slave, it's not an essential NPC by definition lol and makes sense gameplay wise that the slave died (of unknown causes) 

Edited June 28 by Fraying9981

[TrollAutokill]

57 minutes ago, Fraying9981 said:

 

thanks, i checked in the esp and found some conditions.

it seems there are some race checks as well.

 

the NPC i'm talking to is a priest affiliated to stendarr in the mod Haafstad which adds the region of Kirkmore. His colleague can buy slaves but he can't eventhough i tried to tweak his factions a bit in game. He is unique and not a guard.

 

No big deal, but i was just wondering since I came across this a couple of times in the last year using AYGAS, wondering why more than a few NPCs can't buy slaves.

if it's a problem with persistence or whatever, then why not simply dump the slaves by default like you said about the jarl and civil war examples? after all they are slaves. imo player should be able to sell to anyone, then if there is an edge case somewhere, just dump the slave, it's not an essential NPC by definition lol and makes sense gameplay wise that the slave died (of unknown causes) 

Unfortunately Skyrim doesn't give a notice before deleting Spawns. So slaves sold to non uniques will have to be deleted asap.

[DonQuiWho]

21 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Non unique don't buy (guards included). Jarls don't buy just because they don't need, I might put a flag to allow it, but then what happens with the civil war, I don't care. Slavers don't buy from AYGAS. Maybe beggars don't, I need to check that one.

 

If Embry finds that he can't buy Camilla V, the apple of his eye and his highly anticipated plum dessert, he is going to be so pissed off that he might just ask me to recruit him for the sole purpose of killing every troll in the game 😜

 

DQW

[DonQuiWho]

21 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Non unique don't buy (guards included). Jarls don't buy just because they don't need, I might put a flag to allow it, but then what happens with the civil war, I don't care. Slavers don't buy from AYGAS. Maybe beggars don't, I need to check that one.

 

Leaving Embry aside, @Bane Master's Follower Slave Mod (FSM) allows defeated followers to be 'captured, and then maybe sold on, by the initial victors, to the Hydra Slave Girl mod's Slavers, as well as 'rescued' from them by the player, so is there any reason that is specific to DOM that would preclude similar sales to those same NPCs?

 

In asking that, I realise that not every NPC called 'slaver' will be a 'Hydra' one, so some 'slaver' NPCs might be out of scope, but is chopping them ALL out maybe not just 'overkill'? 

 

DQW