Jack005 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) I have like a year with this problem I though the causes could be something related to papyrus but papyrus is fine ,just now I froze at the cell prision from Alternate Start - Live Another Life, starting new save because the past one got corrupted because I uninstall CC fishing thinking that could be the case, at this point Im really hopeless, starting to think on just uninstall everything and be done with it, or using new skyrim versions, Im playing 1.5.97, this is my loadorder Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 RSkyrimChildren.esm 254 FE 0 Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full ESL Version.esm 7 7 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm 8 8 Water for ENB.esm 254 FE 1 NoBrokenWhiterunTower.esp 254 FE 2 OCF.esp 9 9 Campfire.esm 10 a Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 11 b RaceCompatibility.esm 254 FE 3 DMKhajiitHaus.esl 254 FE 4 IHarvest.esl 12 c Embers XD.esm 13 d ZaZAnimationPack.esm 14 e SexLab.esm 15 f Devious Devices - 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traison Posted May 24 Posted May 24 4 hours ago, Jack005 said: ...I though the causes could be something related to papyrus... Seems unlikely to me. 4 hours ago, Jack005 said: ...my last idea would be just downgrade papyrus... Can't be done, Papyrus is built into the game engine. 4 hours ago, Jack005 said: ...but being a freezes I cannot make a diagnostic... Well you can but it involves a debugger for starters. Usually people fall off at the first mention of processes and threads, and that's 10-15 years away from knowing the Assembly language needed for a debugger. Thus the way these things tend to go is that you start removing mods until the problem goes away. Even though I'd like to think I'd be able to solve any freeze using debugging tools, I would in this case also trial-n-error it by removing mods. Debugging a freeze can be such a massive PITA.
Jack005 Posted May 24 Author Posted May 24 10 hours ago, traison said: Seems unlikely to me. Can't be done, Papyrus is built into the game engine. Well you can but it involves a debugger for starters. Usually people fall off at the first mention of processes and threads, and that's 10-15 years away from knowing the Assembly language needed for a debugger. Thus the way these things tend to go is that you start removing mods until the problem goes away. Even though I'd like to think I'd be able to solve any freeze using debugging tools, I would in this case also trial-n-error it by removing mods. Debugging a freeze can be such a massive PITA. When I said papyrus I was referring to papyrus util, power of the tree, and the other one that I don't remember, I mean use the version before Ae content creep out from the hell he came from, also kind of difficult to make right now because it seems that my saves are getting corrupted easily now, so if I uninstall something and Skyrim doesn't like that I would have to start from the start again making the long config for all the mcm mods and trying again just yesterday I was disabling "service your gear" and "prison alternative and their "pack" " and saves again got corrupted
Jack005 Posted May 24 Author Posted May 24 10 hours ago, traison said: Seems unlikely to me. Can't be done, Papyrus is built into the game engine. Well you can but it involves a debugger for starters. Usually people fall off at the first mention of processes and threads, and that's 10-15 years away from knowing the Assembly language needed for a debugger. Thus the way these things tend to go is that you start removing mods until the problem goes away. Even though I'd like to think I'd be able to solve any freeze using debugging tools, I would in this case also trial-n-error it by removing mods. Debugging a freeze can be such a massive PITA. So you men that using an old version of papyrus util, papyrus power of the three, papyrus power of the three Tweeks, probably not gonna do anything, brooo that was my last idea for troubleshooting, what can I do then
Jack005 Posted May 24 Author Posted May 24 Just now, Jack005 said: So you men that using an old version of papyrus util, papyrus power of the three, papyrus power of the three Tweeks, probably not gonna do anything, brooo that was my last idea for troubleshooting, what can I do then I was thinking that because I remember the game didn't have that issue before the nation of Ae attacked so maybe using those papyrus old version could help
traison Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jack005 said: So you men that using an old version of papyrus util, papyrus power of the three, papyrus power of the three Tweeks, probably not gonna do anything, brooo that was my last idea for troubleshooting, what can I do then PapyrusUtil is a different thing entirely. Disabling that could fix your freezing issue. 1 hour ago, Jack005 said: ...and the other one that I don't remember... Papyrus Tweaks perhaps. 1 hour ago, Jack005 said: ...so if I uninstall something and Skyrim doesn't like that I would have to start from the start again making the long config for all the mcm mods and trying again... If it takes a long time to get the freeze to happen this will be a lot of work to solve yes. Ideally you'd want to get the time-to-test down to a couple of minutes max. If you have to do 100 tests, you can't have them take 5 minutes each or you'll be spending the entire week on it. Usually it is easier to go at it from the other end: instead of trying to fix this problem, try instead to make it happen on demand; become an expert at breaking it. Most of the time you'll find that when you learn to break it, you're half wayt to the solution already. Another way to approach this could be to get rid of the obvious fluff like armor mods, LL quests, SL in its entirety, ENB/CS and fix and patch mods other than SSE Engine Fixes. Get to a point where the game is working fine with some mods. Create a save here, and you won't have to worry about redoing every MCM every time you test a new mod. Also remember to create a backup of your current broken mod setup. This lets you sleep at night, even if you completely brick it and it also allows you to restore it once you've found the mod that's causing the issues. Edited May 24 by traison
Jack005 Posted May 25 Author Posted May 25 5 hours ago, traison said: PapyrusUtil is a different thing entirely. Disabling that could fix your freezing issue. Papyrus Tweaks perhaps. If it takes a long time to get the freeze to happen this will be a lot of work to solve yes. Ideally you'd want to get the time-to-test down to a couple of minutes max. If you have to do 100 tests, you can't have them take 5 minutes each or you'll be spending the entire week on it. Usually it is easier to go at it from the other end: instead of trying to fix this problem, try instead to make it happen on demand; become an expert at breaking it. Most of the time you'll find that when you learn to break it, you're half wayt to the solution already. Another way to approach this could be to get rid of the obvious fluff like armor mods, LL quests, SL in its entirety, ENB/CS and fix and patch mods other than SSE Engine Fixes. Get to a point where the game is working fine with some mods. Create a save here, and you won't have to worry about redoing every MCM every time you test a new mod. Also remember to create a backup of your current broken mod setup. This lets you sleep at night, even if you completely brick it and it also allows you to restore it once you've found the mod that's causing the issues. Well I already tried with the old versions of those mods, still freezing, got the idea of using MCM recorder so I wouldn't have to waist hours just in mcm configuration, also I was thinking of remove Pandora and use nemesis+fnis like before, because Pandora was one of the new addition, but if you think could be papyrus util I could try I have various mods that work with papyrus util but if you think think that could be the possible issue I could try, well of course id the mods requiring papyrus util are all not really a must on my load order, still thanks for the help I'll be updating here my advances and tests, I'm not giving up yet
traison Posted May 25 Posted May 25 12 hours ago, Jack005 said: ...but if you think could be papyrus util... Not any more than I think it's your various shoe, hat and dildo mods. The thing with freezes is that it could literally be anything. This is why a debugger would be useful, but the thing with that again is that it's quite likely from the debuggers POV everything is working fine. Identifying which thread could already be problematic, and that's the easy part. Figuring out which hat it is when all you're seeing is a few million assembly code lines fly past every second is the difficult part. Why is why I said learn to break it instead. Does it always freeze when you're wearing red socks and you turn left, or is it when you're wearing leather gloves as you open a door. Find what the combination is, learn to break it.
Jack005 Posted May 25 Author Posted May 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, traison said: Not any more than I think it's your various shoe, hat and dildo mods. The thing with freezes is that it could literally be anything. This is why a debugger would be useful, but the thing with that again is that it's quite likely from the debuggers POV everything is working fine. Identifying which thread could already be problematic, and that's the easy part. Figuring out which hat it is when all you're seeing is a few million assembly code lines fly past every second is the difficult part. Why is why I said learn to break it instead. Does it always freeze when you're wearing red socks and you turn left, or is it when you're wearing leather gloves as you open a door. Find what the combination is, learn to break it. I see, in my case it seems is like the most random ocasions, indors and outdoors, during fight out of it, during sexscenes, it has to be something that is present all the time, I alredy tried with the race (I use normaly daedra seducers) and nop, tried with frameworks that visualise pc char certain form and nop, tried with the number of animations (does not matter either) I thinking maybe taking of npc and enemys like pupulated lite citys/roads, mihail monsters, hydra slave girls Edited May 25 by Jack005
Jack005 Posted June 2 Author Posted June 2 (edited) @traison Found the culprit!!!! it took me weeks, and almost dismantle my whole loadorder, and I must I admit, I should have listen to myself form 4 years ago and dont listen to a random But at least my game is going back to its glorius stability, I gonna share here my actual loadorder to document this problem and prove that it is verifiable and can be repetible Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 7 7 RSkyrimChildren.esm 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 10 a Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 11 b SexLabAroused.esm 12 c LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm 13 d Devious Devices - Integration.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm 16 10 CreatureFramework.esm 17 11 Fertility Mode.esm 18 12 High Poly Head.esm 19 13 Water for ENB.esm 254 FE 0 OCF.esp 254 FE 1 NoBrokenWhiterunTower.esp 20 14 Campfire.esm 21 15 RaceCompatibility.esm 254 FE 2 DMKhajiitHaus.esl 22 16 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 23 17 SexLab - 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Patch - Rudy ENB.esp 254 FE 1c5 Water for ENB - Patch - Generic Landscape Patch.esp 254 FE 1c6 OCW_CellSettings.esp 254 FE 1c7 Dawnguard - Tweaks and Enhancements.esp 254 FE 1c8 DTE - Less Radiant Quests.esp 174 ae Solitude Expansion.esp 254 FE 1c9 lifesHardFood.esp 175 af The Great City of Winterhold v4.esp 176 b0 The Great City of Falkreath.esp 177 b1 The Great City of Dawnstar.esp 178 b2 The Great City of Morthal.esp 254 FE 1ca DBM_SolitudeExpansion_Patch.esp 179 b3 The Great City of Morthal - CFTO Patch.esp 180 b4 The Great City of Falkreath - CFTO Patch.esp 254 FE 1cb NPC_PAN_MalesOS_Bijin_Winter_Dawn_patch_2026.esp 181 b5 Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp 254 FE 1cc GGiY_DtTG_Patch.esp 254 FE 1cd Destroy the Dark Brotherhood - Quest Expansion.esp 254 FE 1ce Smashed Patch.esp 254 FE 1cf RN&D Skyrim JobsofSkyrim.esp 254 FE 1d0 TAP More Customers.esp 254 FE 1d1 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 254 FE 1d2 TW3Eyes.esp 254 FE 1d3 Serana Re-Imagined.esp 254 FE 1d4 VampireLord_Hi_Ply_Armored.esp 182 b6 Better Vampires.esp 254 FE 1d5 CosmeticVampireOverhaul HD.esp 183 b7 DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp 184 b8 Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp 254 FE 1d6 Vampire Eye Fix.esp thas my loadorder, if you have one of those mods and add Devious devices NG the game is proved that is going to start freezing Edited June 5 by Jack005 update
Jack005 Posted June 2 Author Posted June 2 I gonna miss using unforgive devices tho, makes DD less boring
traison Posted June 2 Posted June 2 12 minutes ago, Jack005 said: Found the culprit!!!! it took me weeks, and almost dismantle my whole loadorder... Well done, and yes that's what it sometimes comes down to: ripping the entire thing apart. 1
Jack005 Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 (edited) Guess what? false alarm it still freezin 🫠😭 at least now I have methodolgy to get to freeze the game on imput, I have a save on SkyrimCell, load that save go to whiterun to give an amulet to battleborn, then go to morthal to give the jarl her missing dauther, travel near to markarth to recover an artifac for the museum then go to riften do some stuff there to get money, then go to get some ingredients to gate north of riften and there gets freeze everytime, now I need to analize what it is. I talked to someone with the same issue, and his solution......I didn't like it at all, he said that he change his GPU which I cant because I dont have the money to buy something newer than my RTX 2060 and if I actually change that I have to change everything else for bottleneck, so its the worse case scenary for me, sooo I getting out of solutions maybe this is the end of spiderman I mean me playing skyrim Edited June 5 by Jack005
traison Posted June 5 Posted June 5 24 minutes ago, Jack005 said: ,,,he said that he change his GPU which I cant,,, That sounds like placebo to me. There's other pros-n-cons in switching GPUs right now: nVidia's drivers are vibecoded and apparently haven't worked properly for over a year. AMD is starting to bundle AI slop with their drivers, but apparently it's still opt-out. Despite the price, this may be the last opportunity in a decade to buy a new GPU, because both AMD and nVidia have indirectly stated in their quarterly reports that they're no longer making consumer graphics cards. Your next GPU (in 2035-2045) will be from a Chinese brand like Huawei. The 5060's are practically the same performance-wise as 4060's and 4060's are barely better than 3060's. Progress stopped years ago, and in some sense it has regressed. The new card you buy will most likely have significantly less VRAM than your current card, unless you're buying AMD. Newer high-end nVidia cards have a tendency to melt their power cables and cause a literal fire. 31 minutes ago, Jack005 said: ...I have to change everything else for bottleneck... All higher PCI-E versions are backwards compatible with previous versions. As long as you're not buying the fastest possible cards, the cards will never max out the 16x ports. You can put a 5060 in a gen4 and not notice anything. Considering how little performance has increased since 3060's I wouldn't even be surprised if it would work fine in a gen3 port. Just make sure the port's current limit is enough for the card.
Jack005 Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 53 minutes ago, traison said: nVidia's drivers are vibecoded and apparently haven't worked properly for over a year. Soo based on this point it could be a driver issue?? I have seen people talking about this, and I starting to thing that could be that, because most of my loadorder is the same as 2-4 years before and I have never had freezes like this ones, the mayor change has been the AE update (Im using 1.5.97) and buy a RTX 2070 I had an EVGA 1050 and all my mods runned perfect ctd here and there but never freezes
traison Posted June 5 Posted June 5 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jack005 said: Soo based on this point it could be a driver issue?? If you've been updating your drivers the past year then yes, definitely. I'm personally running 560.94 from 2024 on a 3060. I have the following versions archived here if you can't find older drivers online. 472.12-desktop-win7-64bit-international-whql.exe 556.12-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql.exe 560.94-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql.exe Edit: Maybe should clarify why I said "changing GPUs sounds like a placebo fix" and now "it could definitely be a driver issue"; I mean in some sense these are very similar. It can definitely be a driver issue in the sense that at the end of the day, everything that happens in user-land has some connection to drivers and the kernel. The question is, what is the likelyhood that a driver issue is going to cause a freeze in Skyrim, and specifically Riften of all places. I would definitely switch to an older driver in your case since you have an old GPU and nVidia drivers got bad rep right now; if it fixes your problem at the same time that's a happy accident. Edit again: If you play new games (as in, games newer than the driver's release date) you need to remember that modern games still (30 years later) have this bad habit of requiring workarounds in the display driver to work properly. I don't know why this incompetence has remained in the development pipelines but there it is. To put that another way, if you want to play the latest Call of Duty, it probably won't work so good on 560.94 for instance. The tinfoil-hat person would say these "game-ready drivers" is nVidia/AMD reinforcing their market moat; it keeps Intel out so perhaps it's worth doing. Edited June 5 by traison
Jack005 Posted June 10 Author Posted June 10 Well found the "fix" for the freezing but is too late for me at least going to leave this to someone that needs it https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/138586, it was racemenu, its always racemenu, if the crash or freeze in my case happens on every cell no matter what, its racemenu always point racemenu first, this is the second time racemenu do this to me, apart from that I think I would follow your advice after my clean install and use 560.94-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql.exe this driver just to be sure, but for now I just have to wait to make my reinstall of windows 11 (I have to upgrade there is no support for win 10 anymore and my paranoia would kill me of anxiety knowing someone can be on my pc doing stuff, right now is what I think could be happening you know 5 years with no clean install a lot of provability) I wish I had found that fix earlier, now I have a lot of work to do install windows 11, look for patches for stability for windows 11 install skyrim again this time using mod collection because it would take me like a week to get where I have, and even with using collection it would take me some days to tweek the collection to leave it like my own this is soo sad, thanks for the help again
traison Posted June 10 Posted June 10 (edited) 4 hours ago, Jack005 said: ...I think I would follow your advice after my clean install and use 560.94... Remember that you'll most likely have to disable Windows Update to stay on that version. Windows at least used to push display drivers through WU. I'm sitting behind 3 firewalls myself so I don't really know what the situation is like now. 4 hours ago, Jack005 said: ...I have to upgrade there is no support for win 10 anymore and my paranoia would kill me of anxiety knowing someone can be on my pc doing stuff... Not sure I'd be that confident with Windows 11, but I guess if you get hacked with that you could at least pretend to blame Microsoft. BSD or Windows 95/98 if you want to be safe. If someone hacks your Win 98, you could at least take some pride in knowing it most likely was personal - as in, someone put effort into specifically targeting you. With Win 10/11 it's all bots, and bots are quite good at finding issues with vibecoded slop. Edit: "yeah ok Skyrim on Windows 98". That's not what I meant. What I meant was PEBKAC, i.e. you personally are responsible for whether you get hacked or not. What you use should for the most part be irrelevant. Edited June 10 by traison
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