PawnMan Posted November 3, 2025 Posted November 3, 2025 (edited) 2nd edit: playing after a while same issues appeared again. no idea what it is. but the re install of the skeleton is like a temp fix. All the fps issues reappear. Uninstalled community shaders. guess I am just going to play with lag every time COL scanner runs. Again; To clarify. it only happens when naked. Edit: It was XP32 skeleton. using the "Latest" option in the installer does not like node changing. I used the "Older" se version. Now everything works fine and so does community Shaders. I have to give credit over to Fairwyn for helping me figure it out over in his Curse of Life mod forum. I started this venture when in their forum. kind of took it over. In one of his messages to me it led me down the correct path. Heya, Haven't modded Skyrim SE in an extremely long time and now that I am back I coming across an issue I can not figure out. When I use 3BBB body amazing (3BA 2.48) in body slide and if any mod tries to modify the nodes in game COL/MME/BOS/SLIF/etc the game fps drops dramatically to around 40fps and nothing on the body changes (Breasts/belly). I have built the body and all the outfits. when I put armor on FPS is back up in the 300's. morphs are not changed. But when I use one of the old bodies like CBBE physics or just the regular CBBE the body changes do take effect (breasts/belly) with barely FPS drop. Its like the 3bbb body amazing nodes aren't matching with the nodes from the mods and the mods are calling to change what doesn't exist and are lagging out. I have run the game with only curse of Life before and yet when the mod tries to adjust nodes without any others effecting the game the FPS drops. I have the plugin list below. Last time I modded was a long time ago, something changed since then, some checkbox or body mod/adjustment I am missing. I also just starting using MO2 this go around and I am still getting used to it. Much better then vortex. I am going to try a profile with nothing but the body and one preg mod and see if it still does it. 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Heightmaps","d2025.11.1.0" "0545","+","Terrain Blending","d2025.11.1.0" "0546","+","Terrain Variation","d2025.11.1.0" "0547","+","SSE Display Tweaks","d2025.11.1.0" "0548","+","Upscaling","d2025.11.1.0" "0549","+","Water Effects","d2025.11.1.0" "0550","+","Wetness Effects","d2025.11.1.0" "0551","+","Subsurface Scattering","d2025.11.1.0" "0552","+","NGIO - NG (1.5.9)","d2025.11.1.0" "0553","+","Grass Cache Helper NG","d2025.11.1.0" "0554","+","Grass Cache","" "0555","+","TexGen_Output","d2025.11.2.0" "0556","+","DynDOLOD_Output","d2025.11.2.0" PLugin list.txt Edited November 6, 2025 by PawnMan
Blehbreh Posted November 3, 2025 Posted November 3, 2025 4 hours ago, PawnMan said: I am going to try a profile with nothing but the body and one preg mod and see if it still does it. It doesn't appear that you have the main HDT SMP module installed. I recommend installing the "HDT SMP Flex" Module or the "Fast HDT SMP" module. You have the bodies, hair and clothing mods for HDT SMP but no main module to run them.
PawnMan Posted November 3, 2025 Author Posted November 3, 2025 (edited) 9 hours ago, Blehbreh said: It doesn't appear that you have the main HDT SMP module installed. I recommend installing the "HDT SMP Flex" Module or the "Fast HDT SMP" module. You have the bodies, hair and clothing mods for HDT SMP but no main module to run them. I have faster HDT smp - 0144","+","Faster HDT-SMP","2.5.1.0" Never heard of Flex. Just woke up. going to start fresh and install everything expect Bodies/Loverslab mods. Make sure it all runs smooth with the load order. then install Faster/3ba/skeleton/and curse of life. see if it works or the same thing happens. Edited November 3, 2025 by PawnMan
PawnMan Posted November 3, 2025 Author Posted November 3, 2025 Alright just an update. for prosperities sake here is my current plugin list with no Sexlab/body mods. I made my players speed multiplier 2000 and toggled collision off and sprinted all around the map and the fps was between 360-480. Game is running silky smooth with no crashes. Now I am going to follow body installation directions to a T and take screen shots of each Fomods settings as I install them to make sure I am selecting the right options. 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PawnMan Posted November 3, 2025 Author Posted November 3, 2025 okay, here are the plugins for my body/hair/males/females/physics. this continues right after the other plug list. Just only listed the new plugins to keep the clutter down. Everything is running great. no FPS drops everything is smooth. but even if it is my load order could still be wrong. so if someone could double check the load order that would be great. I am going to now experiment with SLIF and try and make it work with 3BA. I built the body and meshes/bodyside files for 3bbb amazing and outfits/armors Spoiler "0351","+","Faster HDT-SMP" "0352","+","SMP-NPC crash fix" "0353","+","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended" "0354","+","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-" "0355","+","BodySlide and Outfit Studio -" "0356","+","CBPC - Physics with Collisions" "0357","+","CBBE 3BA" "0358","+","CBPC 3-Bone Breast Body Breast-Butt Bounce Configs for 3BA-BHUNP-COCO" "0359","+","Delicious" "0360","+","Diamond CBBE 3BA Bodyslide" "0361","+","3BA Ovibody" "0362","+","MuDynamicNormalMap" "0363","+","The New Gentleman" "0364","+","The Eyes of Beauty SSE" "0365","+","The Eyes of Beauty SE - Elves Edition" "0366","+","Freckle Mania 4k CBBE" "0367","+","Immersive Armours - SSE CBBE 3BA BodySlide" "0368","+","RUSTIC CLOTHING - Special Edition - 2K" "0369","+","CBBE 3BA Vanilla Outfits Redone" "0370","+","Small update" "0371","+","HDT-SMP Creation Backpacks" "0372","+","The Southbound Scouts - HDT-SMP" "0373","+","Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes - CBBE Patch" "0374","+","3BA WACCF Outfits" "0375","+","Undine Hair - Rapunzel Update" "0376","+","Modular SMP Hairstyles" "0377","+","Chooey's Modular SMP Hairstyles Edit" "0378","+","HDT-SMP Hairpack 01" "0379","+","HDT-SMP Hairpack 02" "0380","+","Vanilla hair remake SMP" "0381","+","Vanilla hair - Salt and Wind" "0382","+","[Dint 1" "0383","+","[Dint 2" "0384","+","HDT-SMP Racemenu Hairs and Wigs" "0385","+","Koralina's Aesthetics - Hair Collection" "0386","+","KS Hairdos - HDT SMP (Physics)" "0387","+","YunDao HDT Wigs and RM Hair SSE 4-9-3" settings I selected for FSMP Spoiler Here are my options selected for XP skeleton Spoiler Here are the options I selected for CBBE Enhancer Spoiler Options selected for CBPC Spoiler 3ba options Spoiler 3 bone options Spoiler Mu Options Spoiler T.N.G. options Spoiler
PawnMan Posted November 4, 2025 Author Posted November 4, 2025 (edited) Slif I feel is a lost cause. Gave up on it. Can not get it to effect the 3ba body. effects cbbe fine. I even have 3ba body morphs and lists recommended with Morph modus and percentages selected. I am still getting the drastic drop from 300 fps whenever I activate any preg mod that takes control of any nodes on the 3BA body but only when no armor is attached, maybe Mu has something to do with it. I tested with COL/BOS/FERT+. below is the video of me testing. I probably need to redo my physics installation and body installation for maximum performance. Mega video of FPS drop I am adapting to P+ now to try and optimize script lag and seems to be working fine. After a lot of trial and error with animation limits and such. Here is my current active load order with spaces separating category's Spoiler #Mod_Priority,#Mod_Status,#Mod_Name "0000","-","Default game and CC_separator" "0001","+","DLC: HearthFires" "0002","+","DLC: Dragonborn" "0003","+","DLC: Dawnguard" "0004","+","Creation Club: ccvsvsse004-beafarmer" "0005","+","Creation Club: ccvsvsse003-necroarts" "0006","+","Creation Club: ccvsvsse002-pets" "0007","+","Creation Club: ccvsvsse001-winter" "0008","+","Creation Club: cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon" "0009","+","Creation Club: ccrmssse001-necrohouse" "0010","+","Creation Club: ccqdrsse002-firewood" "0011","+","Creation Club: ccqdrsse001-survivalmode" "0012","+","Creation Club: ccpewsse002-armsofchaos" "0013","+","Creation Club: ccmtysse002-ve" "0014","+","Creation Club: ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine" "0015","+","Creation Club: cckrtsse001_altar" "0016","+","Creation Club: ccfsvsse001-backpacks" "0017","+","Creation Club: ccffbsse002-crossbowpack" "0018","+","Creation Club: ccffbsse001-imperialdragon" "0019","+","Creation Club: cceejsse005-cave" "0020","+","Creation Club: cceejsse004-hall" "0021","+","Creation Club: cceejsse003-hollow" "0022","+","Creation Club: cceejsse002-tower" "0023","+","Creation Club: cceejsse001-hstead" "0024","+","Creation Club: ccedhsse003-redguard" "0025","+","Creation Club: ccedhsse002-splkntset" "0026","+","Creation Club: ccedhsse001-norjewel" "0027","+","Creation Club: cccbhsse001-gaunt" "0028","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse069-contest" "0029","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse068-bloodfall" "0030","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse067-daedinv" "0031","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse066-staves" "0032","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse064-ba_elven" "0033","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse063-ba_ebony" "0034","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail" "0035","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse061-ba_dwarven" "0036","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale" "0037","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse059-ba_dragonplate" "0038","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse058-ba_steel" "0039","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim" "0040","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse056-ba_silver" "0041","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse055-ba_orcishscaled" "0042","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse054-ba_orcish" "0043","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse053-ba_leather" "0044","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse052-ba_iron" "0045","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail" "0046","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse050-ba_daedric" "0047","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse045-hasedoki" "0048","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse043-crosselv" "0049","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse041-netchleather" "0050","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse040-advobgobs" "0051","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse038-bowofshadows" "0052","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse037-curios" "0053","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse036-petbwolf" "0054","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse035-petnhound" "0055","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse034-mntuni" "0056","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse031-advcyrus" "0057","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse025-advdsgs" "0058","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse021-lordsmail" "0059","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse020-graycowl" "0060","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath" "0061","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse018-shadowrend" "0062","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse016-umbra" "0063","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse014-spellpack01" "0064","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse013-dawnfang" "0065","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl" "0066","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn" "0067","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab" "0068","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse008-wraithguard" "0069","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse007-chrysamere" "0070","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse006-stendarshammer" "0071","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse005-goldbrand" "0072","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse004-ruinsedge" "0073","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse003-zombies" "0074","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse002-exoticarrows" "0075","+","Creation Club: ccbgssse001-fish" "0076","+","Creation Club: ccasvsse001-almsivi" "0077","+","Creation Club: ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary" "0078","+","Creation Club: _ResourcePack" "0079","-","Nexus Mods start here_separator" "0080","+","FNIS Behavior SE 7_6 XXL" "0081","+","FNIS Creature Pack SE 7.6" "0082","+","FNIS Spells SE 7.0" "0083","+","RaceMenu Anniversary Edition" "0084","+","UIExtensions" "0085","+","Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch" "0086","+","SkyPatcher - 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traison Posted November 4, 2025 Posted November 4, 2025 (edited) 6 hours ago, PawnMan said: I am still getting the drastic drop from 300 fps whenever... If you read my thread and got past all the trial-n-error you might have gathered that doing morphs in Skyrim is potentially quite resource-intensive. What I see in your video looks perfectly normal. The reason it looks so bad for you is that you're running the game at uncapped fps. It's like I made a program to render a black screen at ten thousand fps, then wondered why adding a cube to it dropped it by a thousand. Doesn't mean the cube is a major problem, just means now the gpu is actually doing something. If adding 10 cubes drops it to 0 fps, then we have a problem. 6 hours ago, PawnMan said: Slif I feel is a lost cause. Gave up on it. Can not get it to effect the 3ba body. Only thing I know about this is from years ago when people who wanted 3BA support had to go scour the forum threads for a compatible morph file. I'd probably just make it myself, since it seems much easier than going through hundereds of pages of forum posts. The SLIF morph file is most likely JSON, which is very human-readable, and the slider names can be found in 3BA itself: ...\CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\SE 3BBB Amazing.osp (XML) <Slider name="ArmpitShape_v2" invert="false" small="0" big="0"> ... </Slider> Edited November 4, 2025 by traison
PawnMan Posted November 4, 2025 Author Posted November 4, 2025 2 hours ago, traison said: If you read my thread and got past all the trial-n-error you might have gathered that doing morphs in Skyrim is potentially quite resource-intensive. What I see in your video looks perfectly normal. The reason it looks so bad for you is that you're running the game at uncapped fps. It's like I made a program to render a black screen at ten thousand fps, then wondered why adding a cube to it dropped it by a thousand. Doesn't mean the cube is a major problem, just means now the gpu is actually doing something. If adding 10 cubes drops it to 0 fps, then we have a problem. Only thing I know about this is from years ago when people who wanted 3BA support had to go scour the forum threads for a compatible morph file. I'd probably just make it myself, since it seems much easier than going through hundereds of pages of forum posts. The SLIF morph file is most likely JSON, which is very human-readable, and the slider names can be found in 3BA itself: ...\CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\SE 3BBB Amazing.osp (XML) <Slider name="ArmpitShape_v2" invert="false" small="0" big="0"> ... </Slider> Yeah, I am now putting myself through he arduous task of enabling mods one by one and loading a new save everytime to figure out what is causing it. I don;t beleive it is the body now or anything loverslab. one of my 100's of regular nexus mods must be the cause. I will update once I figure it out.
traison Posted November 4, 2025 Posted November 4, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, PawnMan said: I don;t beleive it is the body now or anything loverslab. one of my 100's of regular nexus mods must be the cause. You can fast-track that by setting bEnableBodyMorph=0 in skee64.ini. This keeps everything, but the body morphs from RaceMenu. If it's something else, like you're suspecting, this won't fix the problem. My suspicion is that it will fix the problem, because like I said, I didn't see anything unexpected in the video. Edit: Prove me wrong by doing this and you'll pique my interest. Not saying that's going to be worth anything, as performance issues in Skyrim are nearly impossible to debug (outside of just removing mods), but still. Edited November 4, 2025 by traison
PawnMan Posted November 4, 2025 Author Posted November 4, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, traison said: You can fast-track that by setting bEnableBodyMorph=0 in skee64.ini. This keeps everything, but the body morphs from RaceMenu. If it's something else, like you're suspecting, this won't fix the problem. My suspicion is that it will fix the problem, because like I said, I didn't see anything unexpected in the video. Edit: Prove me wrong by doing this and you'll pique my interest. Not saying that's going to be worth anything, as performance issues in Skyrim are nearly impossible to debug (outside of just removing mods), but still. You were right. when I disable body morphs on the ini the fps never drops. I think i narrowed down to a few mods to what kept my FPS from going back up after mods would check the body nodes. Before in the video it would stay around 40fps. now when it happens the FPS drop only happens for a few seconds when nodes are checked and the fps goes right back up to 240. The Curse of life scanner, every time that thing runs my fps drops but corrects itself right after. Edit: I believe it was community shaders. they do not work well with body node changes for some reason. I am going to keep playing/modding and see if the constant fps drop happens again. if not, it was definitely community shaders. FPS still drops when a lover slab mod changes/checks nodes but the fps goes right back up after it is complete. I also moved back to Regular sexlab as P+ is not compatible with all the mods I want to use. Edited November 4, 2025 by PawnMan
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