Unequipping outfit pieces or torso becomes invisible.

[Azzhat1138]

Like I said, I'm like a grandparent that needs help setting up the wifi. I'm a disgrace to my generation.

[traison]

Unfortunately this outfit uses slot number 52 and thus isn't the one causing issues with slot 32.

 

If you're up for a remote desktop session then I'll come over and fix it for you. Make sure you understand what it means and what the dangers are. Note the warning at the top of the page I linked here. PM me if this seems like a good idea.

[Azzhat1138]

7 minutes ago, traison said:

Unfortunately this outfit uses slot number 52 and thus isn't the one causing issues with slot 32.

 

If you're up for a remote desktop session then I'll come over and fix it for you. Make sure you understand what it means and what the dangers are. Note the warning at the top of the page I linked here. PM me if this seems like a good idea.

No need. I found the piece with 32 slot. You can just work your magic like you were going to. 

[Melodic] Echidna Tops nif & esp.zip

[traison]

That one is fine being slot 32 because it has the nude body in it. The nude body and the outfit parts are correctly set to slot 32 in all 3 places.

[Azzhat1138]

6 minutes ago, traison said:

That one is fine being slot 32 because it has the nude body in it. The nude body and the outfit parts are correctly set to slot 32 in all 3 places.

Should I just DM you the entire mod?

[traison]

There seems to be more items involved than just the Echidna mod:

ebony circlet
ebony ring
silvered ebony dagger

bond of matrimony

...

[Azzhat1138]

5 minutes ago, traison said:

There seems to be more items involved than just the Echidna mod:

ebony circlet
ebony ring
silvered ebony dagger

bond of matrimony

...

You think one of those could be the cause?

[traison]

Any equipped item can occupy any equipment slot or partition number. A ring can occpy the foot slot, a hat can remove your dick and your sword can remove your head. Any item can contain occupy multiple slots and/or partitions, and the slot and partition numbers do not have to be identical across all 3 locations where they're set - in some cases this is even required.

 

I had an alternative idea of creating a spell for you that you could cast on Serana to get the item equipped in slot 32, but I'm fairly certain it won't work. Especially since MIC seems to suggest there's nothing in slot 32 either. I suppose it could still be worth a try, but I feel like this entire problem is taking far too much time already. Figuring this out shouldn't have taken more than 30 minutes tops.

[Azzhat1138]

Alright I removed all but the circlet and ebony ring (because they're not accessible from her inventory). They're from another mod called Serana Dialogue Expansion. Specifically the Romance addon. Nothing changed. I took screenshots with MIC showing the equipment slots of those two items. 

[traison]

Install this mod and launch the game. It gives you 2 new spells starting with ATD_*. Ignore the name, the base mod was made as an example for someone else originally. Cast the debug other spell on Serana when her body is missing.

anjenthedog_debug.7z

[Azzhat1138]

19 minutes ago, traison said:

Install this mod and launch the game. It gives you 2 new spells starting with ATD_*. Ignore the name, the base mod was made as an example for someone else originally. Cast the debug other spell on Serana when her body is missing.

anjenthedog_debug.7z 2.36 kB · 0 downloads

Okay. Did it. Can I just say how much I appreciate you taking the time to help me? Also, how annoying this is? Because it worked fine for a few ingame days. 

[traison]

Based on that I'm going to guess that it's indeed some mesh with a partition set to 32 and equipment slots set to something else. I bet Papyrus only sees equipment slots, and partitions can hide things visually.

[Azzhat1138]

3 minutes ago, traison said:

Based on that I'm going to guess that it's indeed some mesh with a partition set to 32 and equipment slots set to something else. I bet Papyrus only sees equipment slots, and partitions can hide things visually.

So, do you want me to DM you the mod and it's bodyslide files after all?

[traison]

I can take a look at it, but like I said previously, you have a lot more items equipped so the odds are about 50% that it's an item from this specific mod.

[traison]

Echidna Cloths 3BA SMP

VirtualGround mesh is in partition 32, changed to partition 52.

 

Not tested.

 

Edit: Tested. Works.

patch.7z

Edited October 26, 2025 by traison

[Azzhat1138]

15 minutes ago, traison said:

Echidna Cloths 3BA SMP

VirtualGround mesh is in partition 32, changed to partition 52.

 

Not tested.

patch.7z 873.34 kB · 0 downloads

Unfortunately, it does not work. Same issues persist.

Edited October 26, 2025 by Azzhat1138

[traison]

Made sure the patch overwrites "[Melodic] Echidna SE"? Built the new mesh in BodySlide? Made sure the mesh you built is actually being used and not overwritten by another mod? If yes to all, then you have yet another mesh doing the same thing.

 

Edit: Tested my modified Echidna set and it was working fine.

Edited October 26, 2025 by traison

[Azzhat1138]

7 minutes ago, traison said:

Made sure the patch overwrites "[Melodic] Echidna SE"? Built the new mesh in BodySlide? Made sure the mesh you built is actually being used and not overwritten by another mod? If yes to all, then you have yet another mesh doing the same thing.

 

Edit: Tested my modified Echidna set and it was working fine.

I did all that, and even replaced the bodyslide files from the main mod with the patch. Nothing. But what could be causing it? Is there a way to check in XEdit to see what could be causing it?

[traison]

1. Wait for the problem to appear.
2. Open the console.
3. Select Serana.
4. Use MIC or the inv console command to get a list of all worn items.
5. Go through this list and add the items to yourself.
6. Wear them one by one until the problem appears on the player character.

Select yourself in the console:

prid 14

 

Add item to yourself in the console:

additem form_id

 

Equip item using the console:

equipitem form_id

 

[Azzhat1138]

1 minute ago, traison said:

1. Wait for the problem to appear.
2. Open the console.
3. Select Serana.
4. Use MIC or the inv console command to get a list of all worn items.
5. Go through this list and add the items to yourself.
6. Wear them one by one until the problem appears on the player character.

Select yourself in the console:

prid 14

 

Add item to yourself in the console:

additem form_id

 

Equip item using the console:

equipitem form_id

 

I've got an esp explorer mod, can I just use that instead?

[Azzhat1138]

Okay, so still no dice with the top and the cloth. Equipping one causes the other to automatically unequip. However, the piece called Top Xtra does work with no issues when equipped with the Cloth.

Edited October 27, 2025 by Azzhat1138

[traison]

16 minutes ago, Azzhat1138 said:

I've got an esp explorer mod, can I just use that instead?

 

Partitions are not visible in esp files, they're in meshes only.

 

13 minutes ago, Azzhat1138 said:

Equipping one causes the other to automatically unequip. However, the piece called Top Xtra does work with no issues when equipped with the Cloth.

 

That's an equipment slot issue, rather than a mesh partition issue. Can't replicate it here however, so that's coming from somewhere else.

[Azzhat1138]

Well dang, the Top Xtra only worked for a little while before having the same issue.