frame of vision bounce?

[kannz]

Hiyo. um i think this sounds like some kind of thing that is easy to fix..  when my character is walking the frame of vision just slightly bounces? like up and down. it kind of is headache inducing.. i thought i read that it was a scaling issue? is someone familar with this problem? i followed the RTFM and i think i messed up somewhere with the rescaling? or it might not even be that.. by rescaling i mean this.. 

 

=my load order

Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
BakaFramework.esm
TortureDevices.esm
AAF.esm
Devious Devices.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
KziitdFetishToolset.esm
XDI.esm
AnimalPosingFramework.esl
ECF.esl
Munitions - An Ammo Expansion.esl
AAFThemes.esl
WashOutThatCum.esl
Bememoth Separated Cart.esl
BodyTalk3-RaiderNormalsFix.esl
MS Rename Anything Enhanced.esp
PhotoMode.esp
ScreenArcherMenu.esp
FusionGirl.esp
LooksMenu.esp
No Scope Fade In.esp
SolarPower.esp
AkaWaterWorld.esp
HHFootsteps.esp
Prisoner Shackles.esp
ZeX-InGameSliders.esp
TatsAfterRape.esp
AAF_debug_on.esp
BetterLivingThroughCumistry.esp
BLTC_ISM_ext.esp
SlaveTattoos.esp
Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp
DD_hider_addon.esp
Devious Devices Addon - High Heels Sound.esp
Rogg DD Items Manager.esp
Rogg DD Items Manager-patchRC9.esp
PlugsFix.esp
dcc-bp-lol.esp
KziitdAnimationPoses.esp
LewdMarks.esp
Just Business.esp
RealHandcuffs.esp
RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp
RealHandcuffs_DD_Compatibility.esp
RealHandcuffs_JB_Compatibility.esp
KziitdFetishToolset_DD_Compatibility.esp
KziitdFetishToolset_RH_Compatibility.esp
GetDirty.esp
le666piercings.esp
MilkingHumanKindness.esp
AAF_GrayAnimations.esp
SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
Allnarta AAF Animations.esp
AAF_DR_creature_pack.esp
AAF_SCRS.esp
KaoruBadDragon01.esp
Smoke-able Cigars.esp
StoryActionPoses_Unofficial.esp
Atomic Lust.esp
BoundInPublic.esp
rxl_bp70_animations.esp
BraveAnims.esp
Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp
CRX.esp
Farelle_Animations.esp
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
Mutated Lust.esp
AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp
AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp
Rufgt's Animations.esp
RZSex.esp
Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
SpicyAlteredBipedAnims.esp
SpicyAlteredCreatureAnims.esp
DD_Bench_Unlock.esp
Render Tattoos.esp
GlockPartyPack.esp
FP_SexualHarassment.esp
FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp
INVB_WastelandDairy.esp
FPE_Resources.esp
INVB_WastelandResources.esp
FPAttributes.esp
ProvocativePerks.esp
AAF_Violate.esp
AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp
AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp
BLTC-SC_Patch.esp
BLTC_NoChemResistance.esp
Commonwealth Captives.esp
ComMoisturizer.esp
ComMoisturizer_GlowPatch.esp
AAF_SEU.esp
ZaZOut4.esp
AnimatedTentacles.esp
Zaz Particle Effects.esp
Behemoth No Cart.esp
Deathclaw_nude.esp
BraveAnims_Fix.esp
ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp
PenPos.esp
UAP Moans.esp
INVB_WastelandOffspring.esp

[Daangerousda]

I have been using all animations,, all trigger mods, Sam Former, SAM enhanced animations and the newest versions as they come for years and have absolutely never heard or experienced such a thing.  I run Horizon, and it has an option to "No camera shake" when giants and deathclaw are near you, but other than that,, never heard anything like what your describing.  If you played with the INI , made manual changes,, undo it, i bet that fixes it.

[lee3310]

9 hours ago, kannz said:

Hiyo. um i think this sounds like some kind of thing that is easy to fix..  when my character is walking the frame of vision just slightly bounces? like up and down. it kind of is headache inducing.. i thought i read that it was a scaling issue? is someone familar with this problem? i followed the RTFM and i think i messed up somewhere with the rescaling? or it might not even be that.. by rescaling i mean this.. 

 

=my load order

Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
BakaFramework.esm
TortureDevices.esm
AAF.esm
Devious Devices.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
KziitdFetishToolset.esm
XDI.esm
AnimalPosingFramework.esl
ECF.esl
Munitions - An Ammo Expansion.esl
AAFThemes.esl
WashOutThatCum.esl
Bememoth Separated Cart.esl
BodyTalk3-RaiderNormalsFix.esl
MS Rename Anything Enhanced.esp
PhotoMode.esp
ScreenArcherMenu.esp
FusionGirl.esp
LooksMenu.esp
No Scope Fade In.esp
SolarPower.esp
AkaWaterWorld.esp
HHFootsteps.esp
Prisoner Shackles.esp
ZeX-InGameSliders.esp
TatsAfterRape.esp
AAF_debug_on.esp
BetterLivingThroughCumistry.esp
BLTC_ISM_ext.esp
SlaveTattoos.esp
Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp
DD_hider_addon.esp
Devious Devices Addon - High Heels Sound.esp
Rogg DD Items Manager.esp
Rogg DD Items Manager-patchRC9.esp
PlugsFix.esp
dcc-bp-lol.esp
KziitdAnimationPoses.esp
LewdMarks.esp
Just Business.esp
RealHandcuffs.esp
RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp
RealHandcuffs_DD_Compatibility.esp
RealHandcuffs_JB_Compatibility.esp
KziitdFetishToolset_DD_Compatibility.esp
KziitdFetishToolset_RH_Compatibility.esp
GetDirty.esp
le666piercings.esp
MilkingHumanKindness.esp
AAF_GrayAnimations.esp
SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
Allnarta AAF Animations.esp
AAF_DR_creature_pack.esp
AAF_SCRS.esp
KaoruBadDragon01.esp
Smoke-able Cigars.esp
StoryActionPoses_Unofficial.esp
Atomic Lust.esp
BoundInPublic.esp
rxl_bp70_animations.esp
BraveAnims.esp
Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp
CRX.esp
Farelle_Animations.esp
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
Mutated Lust.esp
AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp
AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp
Rufgt's Animations.esp
RZSex.esp
Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
SpicyAlteredBipedAnims.esp
SpicyAlteredCreatureAnims.esp
DD_Bench_Unlock.esp
Render Tattoos.esp
GlockPartyPack.esp
FP_SexualHarassment.esp
FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp
INVB_WastelandDairy.esp
FPE_Resources.esp
INVB_WastelandResources.esp
FPAttributes.esp
ProvocativePerks.esp
AAF_Violate.esp
AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp
AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp
BLTC-SC_Patch.esp
BLTC_NoChemResistance.esp
Commonwealth Captives.esp
ComMoisturizer.esp
ComMoisturizer_GlowPatch.esp
AAF_SEU.esp
ZaZOut4.esp
AnimatedTentacles.esp
Zaz Particle Effects.esp
Behemoth No Cart.esp
Deathclaw_nude.esp
BraveAnims_Fix.esp
ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp
PenPos.esp
UAP Moans.esp
INVB_WastelandOffspring.esp

You can always reset your scale manually to 1.0 if different using console cmd "getscale" "setscale x.x" and  get that out of the way. 

[kannz]

no it wasnt and ini changes. i dont do custom things i always run into problems with that. i only set weapon debris off and turned off settings for high fps fix to work. such as iPresentInterval=0. also i turn off the bluring. it seems the thing that was causing my problem is this animation thing and its requirements. aaf_darthroman_creature_pack and animal posing framework with aaf_scrs and sam. also extended facial sculpting. its most likely extended facial sculpting as they didnt directly link anything i had to google search for them and there were multiple files for both names. is this correct https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/70230  or this one https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/25087  also aaf_scrs isnt there anymore its just AAF_SCRS_Cr_V2.3. also i dont know if there are settings to change with this "new" scrs or if it even works or is there a different link now?

 

EDIT: also no i didnt mean it was SAM. I still have sam installed. i meant those were its requirements. SAM is required for some other things to work i think so i doubt it was causing my weird fov bounce. the things I uinstalled were this https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/70230 and https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/59341 and its requirements https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/58448 oh also this thing required by its requirements ECF environmental cubemapping

 

 

Edited October 10, 2025 by kannz

[deff.]

I'm using all of your mentioned mods, except this version of EFS. Second version I have installed right now and noone of these mods causes your problem...

And I have tested almost all of your AAF mods/animations and no one of them causes bouncing or something like that. So I think you can count off AAF mods and look in other mods direction...

[kannz]

it has to be one of these.. what efs are you using? i would love to not get seasick when playing this game.. there is nothing else i have enabled.. i dont use any kind of streaming applications chat or rivatuner ect when im playing this. 

 

EDIT: do you mean your using this one? https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/25087

 

EDIT EDIT: i re-enabled all mods and used the other efs so far it seems normal. idk if its even efs that was doing this. if i have any other problems im guessing i will just need to reinstall my game or i will most likely just start another mod organizer instance and delete the old one. 

 

Question @deff. or whoever do you use UFO4P and Community Fixes Merged to go with aaf and these mods? do they fix more or is there something that is messed with throughout these mods? 

 

 

EDIT: nevermind it still does it with the string of mods and the other efs.. guess that means its not the reason.

 

EDIT: is this the correct version?

 

 

 

Edited October 12, 2025 by kannz

[EngineGaming]

On 10/10/2025 at 7:06 PM, kannz said:

it has to be one of these.. what efs are you using? i would love to not get seasick when playing this game.. there is nothing else i have enabled.. i dont use any kind of streaming applications chat or rivatuner ect when im playing this. 

 

EDIT: do you mean your using this one? https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/25087

 

EDIT EDIT: i re-enabled all mods and used the other efs so far it seems normal. idk if its even efs that was doing this. if i have any other problems im guessing i will just need to reinstall my game or i will most likely just start another mod organizer instance and delete the old one. 

 

Question @deff. or whoever do you use UFO4P and Community Fixes Merged to go with aaf and these mods? do they fix more or is there something that is messed with throughout these mods? 

 

 

EDIT: nevermind it still does it with the string of mods and the other efs.. guess that means its not the reason.

 

EDIT: is this the correct version?

 

 

 

 

For?

[kannz]

it says its required for animal posing framework's requirement. story action poses. 

 

EDIT: i enabled everything except story action poses... i still need to test some more. with this disabled it seems like im getting no bounce. is story action poses for sure needed? what part doesnt work without it? is it only for cat stuff?

 

 

 

 

Edited October 13, 2025 by kannz

[deff.]

@kannz, yes, I'm using that facial sculpting mod which you mentioned...

 

And I have all mods which you have, even Story action poses and noone of them causing your issue...Don't know why you have some bouncing/whatever...

[kannz]

do you use the unofficial fallout 4 patch and/or community fixes merged? im reinstalling my mods right now because one mod i use isnt working right at all. if it still doesnt work right after the different instance ill prolly delete the game and do it again. the mod not working is provocative perks. 

thank you for the replies.

 

EDIT: i reinstalled the game on a different pc and the same thing still happens. a slight bounce in fov and i think im almost done trying..this is just a headache machine...

Edited October 14, 2025 by kannz

[deff.]

On 10/13/2025 at 12:38 PM, kannz said:

do you use the unofficial fallout 4 patch and/or community fixes merged? im reinstalling my mods right now because one mod i use isnt working right at all. if it still doesnt work right after the different instance ill prolly delete the game and do it again. the mod not working is provocative perks. 

thank you for the replies.

 

EDIT: i reinstalled the game on a different pc and the same thing still happens. a slight bounce in fov and i think im almost done trying..this is just a headache machine...

 

Yes, I'm using unofficial fallout 4 patch and community fixes merged as well. I have downgraded game and nothing bounces...thats pretty weird that you have bouncing issue. I never saw something like that..Usually there are some flickering textures, flaccid penis, purple body, brown face...

[kannz]

im using the gog version at the moment but i have both. that means your using the steam version? what application did you use to downgrade? also what way do you keep steam from updating? changing it to read only? 

if you are using the downgraded steam version what version of the unofficial fallout 4 patch and community fixes merged to you use? the most current? at the moment I'm wasn't using either of the patches due to trying to figure out performance problems.

i haven't had a problem with those bugs since i started looking around this forum. the only one i had pop up is black face bug but that goes away after a restarting the game usually. thank you for the info

 

EDIT: is it recommended to use bodytalk 3 or 4? do you use fusion girl or cbbe? oh also do you use the knee fix if you use cbbe?

Edited October 16, 2025 by kannz

[deff.]

7 hours ago, kannz said:

im using the gog version at the moment but i have both. that means your using the steam version? what application did you use to downgrade? also what way do you keep steam from updating? changing it to read only? 

if you are using the downgraded steam version what version of the unofficial fallout 4 patch and community fixes merged to you use? the most current? at the moment I'm wasn't using either of the patches due to trying to figure out performance problems.

i haven't had a problem with those bugs since i started looking around this forum. the only one i had pop up is black face bug but that goes away after a restarting the game usually. thank you for the info

 

EDIT: is it recommended to use bodytalk 3 or 4? do you use fusion girl or cbbe? oh also do you use the knee fix if you use cbbe?

 

 

For downgrade I used this mod. I don't remember what I turned off in Steam. Few weeks ago I had game without updates, then my ssd went down and I lost data. In this (downgraded) game version I didn't turn on or of some kind of Steam features to avoid updates. I simply downgrade the game, launched once game normally and then started to mod. If'you are launching game through F4SE game will not update. And in Steam I have something like this: 

 

 

I have all NG content. Yes that's  weird, but everything is working. And my game version is 1.10.163 and I'm downloading mods for old game not for NG. 

 

Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch - UFO4P - version 2.1.8

Community Fixes Merged - I have 4.1.16 version. This mod have update.

 

I'm using Bodytalk 4 and Fusion girl. I have only one problem/issue but this problem haunts me from early beginning and I can't solve it whatever I do. 

Edited October 16, 2025 by deff.

[kannz]

thanks for the info  also what problem? also why do you use a older version of cfm?

Edited October 17, 2025 by kannz

[deff.]

2 hours ago, kannz said:

thanks for the info  also what problem? also why do you use a older version of cfm?

 

Flaccid BT stuff. Don't know where is problem. 100% sure, that my setup is correct, when starting new game, everything is fine. AAF support discord always said, that scripts messed up..so I'm living with this problem...

About CFM. Mod author updated mod in 5th October. I downloaded it on September when newest version was my version. I usually don't check if the mod have update, except LL mods. 

[kannz]

oh i have had that happen before. not recently though. i only follow the manual thing an dont add many extra mods but i noticed that sometimes the order in which you install mods can even effect them. my performance problems could be linked to defective pc parts ..not sure yet..but with how terrible my gameplay is it could be my problem..i get a fair amount of terrible performance that is headache inducing. my pc should be good enough to play fallout i think.. my specs are 9700x 32gb 6000mhz ram 2tb 990 pro and a 5070 12gb.

[kannz]

deff could u pm me your load order? so i can compare it with my own..

i just finished redoing my game and even reinstalled my os along with all my drivers and i still get the weird bounce. it wasn't happening till i finished putting all the needed mods for aaf.. such as animations and framework. i was also comparing 3rd person to 1st person and it seems there is less bounce in 1st person but i need to test more.. thank you :p

On 10/17/2025 at 12:29 AM, deff. said:

 

Flaccid BT stuff. Don't know where is problem. 100% sure, that my setup is correct, when starting new game, everything is fine. AAF support discord always said, that scripts messed up..so I'm living with this problem...

About CFM. Mod author updated mod in 5th October. I downloaded it on September when newest version was my version. I usually don't check if the mod have update, except LL mods. 

 

[deff.]

2 hours ago, kannz said:

deff could u pm me your load order? so i can compare it with my own..

i just finished redoing my game and even reinstalled my os along with all my drivers and i still get the weird bounce. it wasn't happening till i finished putting all the needed mods for aaf.. such as animations and framework. i was also comparing 3rd person to 1st person and it seems there is less bounce in 1st person but i need to test more.. thank you 😛

 

 

DM

[kannz]

thx deff  

[kannz]

looks like the mod Story Action Poses was causing the bounce.

here is with story action poses on https://drive.proton.me/urls/TH8C3PSXM4#N1SlH39rWAsT

 

 

here is with story action poses disabled.  

https://drive.proton.me/urls/SSJEQ04S0W#sJJj8OVEs2r0

 

i havent asked anyone else if they get this bug except deff. I'm not sure why this happens. if anyone knows a fix that would be cool. i only installed it as the requirement for animal posing framework for the animation called AAF_darthroman_creature_pack_v.  (a requirement for its requirement)

 

EDIT: you see it most easily if you look at the doorframe.

Edited November 11, 2025 by kannz

[judge007]

On 11/10/2025 at 6:24 PM, kannz said:

looks like the mod Story Action Poses was causing the bounce.

here is with story action poses on https://drive.proton.me/urls/TH8C3PSXM4#N1SlH39rWAsT

 

 

here is with story action poses disabled.  

https://drive.proton.me/urls/SSJEQ04S0W#sJJj8OVEs2r0

 

i havent asked anyone else if they get this bug except deff. I'm not sure why this happens. if anyone knows a fix that would be cool. i only installed it as the requirement for animal posing framework for the animation called AAF_darthroman_creature_pack_v.  (a requirement for its requirement)

 

EDIT: you see it most easily if you look at the doorframe.

Frame rates are too high, FO4 needs to be maxed at 60fps

[kannz]

okay but that wasn't the problem. it was the mod causing the bounce not my fps. i usually set it at 60 i just didnt have everything configured yet. also having fps so high can cause the screen to go totally white when you jump from a high area. thank you for reminding me though.