nilead Posted August 21, 2025 Posted August 21, 2025 Just when i thought my AE build is stable, i noticed that some MCM menues do not load on new game start. Exact MCMs that do not load seem to be random, moreover, after a restart or two they all seem to load. Since issue is neither consistent (i even had SLAL MCM not load, and that thing was rock stable sincce what, 2022?), i cant even begin to guess the core issue. Im not at 128 MCM limit, still have some headroom. So, any hints are wellcome.
alex77r4 Posted August 21, 2025 Posted August 21, 2025 When you start a New Game a lot of mods have problems initializing herself and, a lot of times, the best solution is: Exit to the Main Menu and, without closing the game, Start a New Game again.
traison Posted August 21, 2025 Posted August 21, 2025 1 minute ago, alex77r4 said: When you start a New Game a lot of mods have problems initializing herself... This is not normal though.
nilead Posted August 21, 2025 Author Posted August 21, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, traison said: The answer is most likely in the Papyrus log Attaching it here then.Papyrus.0.log During this loading, i noticed (ive got custom notifications set to extremely fast for game start, hard to notice =-/ ) a message that 168 new MCM menus have been loaded. Wich is way above maximum, but i believe is also much more than what i actually have. Edit: Actually counting, i arrived at 117 MCMs when it seems everything is loaded. Having to cut something out just for MCM limit isnt something i had planned, but seems that is a realistic perspective. Is there a way to manually flag an MCM not to load? Some mods have one while they really dont need it( Edited August 21, 2025 by nilead
traison Posted August 21, 2025 Posted August 21, 2025 (edited) You got over 1000 errors about missing scripts and script properties. Those should be sorted out. XPMSE seems to be generally unhappy. It also appears to be incompatible with the current FNIS environment. BH_RQPS_ClearFlag_Script looks like it might be broken. isummain, iddemain, zao_menu_script, hm_inventory, mf_handler_config and dd_q0_dirtydeedsquest also look broken. UD_CustomDevice_EquipScript seems to be incompatible with zadlibs_UDPatch. Your Papyrus situation is so horrible, that it dumped its stacks at the end before closing the log. So, to conclude, you need to fix your Papyrus errors. It's most likely too clogged up and broken to load all menus consistently, or perhapts it's one of the menus that are causing it. For instance, thread 7259 was stuck in sslConfigMenu.LoadLibs(), meaning SL's menu most likely didn't load. If you're curious, here's a list of the menus that did load this time. There's 230 of them, so I doubt there's a 128 menu limit in the MCM. If there is, it's not your current problem, but rather a problem you'll have to deal with next. As for disabling menus, you'll have to mark the menu quest to not start on game start to disable the menu from showing up. 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Edited August 21, 2025 by traison 1
nilead Posted August 21, 2025 Author Posted August 21, 2025 25 minutes ago, traison said: You got over 1000 errors about missing scripts and script properties. Those should be sorted out. XPMSE seems to be generally unhappy. It also appears to be incompatible with the current FNIS environment. BH_RQPS_ClearFlag_Script looks like it might be broken. isummain, iddemain, zao_menu_script, hm_inventory, mf_handler_config and dd_q0_dirtydeedsquest also look broken. UD_CustomDevice_EquipScript seems to be incompatible with zadlibs_UDPatch. Your Papyrus situation is so horrible, that it dumped its stacks at the end before closing the log. So, to conclude, you need to fix your Papyrus errors. It's most likely too clogged up and broken to load all menus consistently, or perhapts it's one of the menus that are causing it. For instance, thread 7259 was stuck in sslConfigMenu.LoadLibs(), meaning SL's menu most likely didn't load. If you're curious, here's a list of the menus that did load this time. There's 230 of them, so I doubt there's a 128 menu limit in the MCM. If there is, it's not your current problem, but rather a problem you'll have to deal with next. As for disabling menus, you'll have to mark the menu quest to not start on game start to disable the menu from showing up. 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XPSMSE seem to function correctly, its overwritten by NIOPA, MNC and ABC, wich i believe all actually need to overwrite it. Not sure how to go about troubleshooting those, i can just cut some stuff like ZAO, rest of them, however.... i mean, UD comes in a single package, no third party patches or overwriting. Little to no idea how to go bout it, but i its a start. Well, diagonose is almost dead, but it is a diagnose. Thanks, doc.
traison Posted August 21, 2025 Posted August 21, 2025 27 minutes ago, nilead said: I do run Pandora, fnis is just a token .esp. XPSMSE seem to function correctly... Pandora contains the FNIS esp, but not the FNIS scripts for some reason. XPMSE, depending on how it's installed, will require those FNIS scripts. My recommendation would be that you either install FNIS, or grab it's script from the installation archive. 29 minutes ago, nilead said: Well, diagonose is almost dead, but it is a diagnose. Not necessarily. One thread stuck in a While loop is usually enough to destroy Papyrus. The issue is finding it. ReSaver might help. Analyzing the stack dump in the Papyrus log could work, but it contains stacks from all threads that were running at the time; so 99.9% of those will be unrelated an innocent. 1
nilead Posted August 21, 2025 Author Posted August 21, 2025 8 minutes ago, traison said: Not necessarily. One thread stuck in a While loop is usually enough to destroy Papyrus. The issue is finding it. ReSaver might help. Analyzing the stack dump in the Papyrus log could work, but it contains stacks from all threads that were running at the time; so 99.9% of those will be unrelated an innocent. Hopefully that is the case, this setup actually proved issue free, when i manage to get past the initial LAL celll with everything loaded. At least at 30-40 hours. On such a save, Falrim Tools shows nothing criminal, except for non-existant form instances, but if i recall correctly, those are best left untouched. Stuff breaks horribly if those are cleaned( Wonder if it could be the issue where its just too much to load at once for a new game. CHIM used to have an explicit instruction to not be enabled on game start, as it consistently crashed, Adding it later was a non-issue. Current build is... well, fat.
traison Posted August 21, 2025 Posted August 21, 2025 If you haven't increased your Papyrus ops budget with Papyrus Tweaks then yeah you'd probably have to sit in the starting cell for 10 minutes. 1
traison Posted August 21, 2025 Posted August 21, 2025 SKI_ConfigManager has an array of SKI_ConfigBase's in it. Several vital-looking functions are using this, so that's probably the 128 menu limit. This probably explains why menus are missing, but you're still having Papyrus issues. It's quite curious that it goes through the initialization of a menu before it knows if it can even accomodate a new menu. I guess those "INITIALIZED" messages are not to be relied on when it comes to whether a menu is actually going to be usable or not from the GUI. 1
nilead Posted August 22, 2025 Author Posted August 22, 2025 (edited) Came back with a possible solutions, if anyone finds this topic: Option A - https://github.com/mort65/SKyUI-254MCMs-Patch/releases/tag/v1.0.1 Demands a new game, but well, my build is north of half a TB and 254 MCMs is enough for it for now. Option B: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/67556?tab=description Edit: Tried option B- yeah, go for that. Esp-fe that you can drop into an existing save, awesome functionality, a go to option. Edited August 22, 2025 by nilead
nilead Posted August 22, 2025 Author Posted August 22, 2025 22 hours ago, traison said: If you haven't increased your Papyrus ops budget with Papyrus Tweaks then yeah you'd probably have to sit in the starting cell for 10 minutes. Longer than that, unfortunately. I presurme you mean iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes value in skyrim.ini papyrus section? I do run Papyrus tweaks 4.1.0 as requirement for... something, honestly cant remember, it sits there in core part of the build for long time, but it doesnt have any .ini or other obvious way to tweak anything within it, so if that is what you meant, then i do run it. If something needs to be tweaked within it, i dont know how to. Probably simplier to say - i have no dea how to properly tweak Papyrus ops budget, would appreciate a pointer.
traison Posted August 22, 2025 Posted August 22, 2025 PapyrusTweaks.ini iMaxOpsPerFrame I have mine set to 10,000, but you should start off at 2,000 and once you know what it does you can consider increasing it to silly values like I have. Careful with MenuMaid2, it has a lot of bugs in it. By bugs I mean as per their original definition - bugs that cause software crashes. There seems to be a lot of other issues too. 1
Plaguetard2.0 Posted December 10, 2025 Posted December 10, 2025 On 8/22/2025 at 5:30 PM, nilead said: Came back with a possible solutions, if anyone finds this topic: Option A - https://github.com/mort65/SKyUI-254MCMs-Patch/releases/tag/v1.0.1 Demands a new game, but well, my build is north of half a TB and 254 MCMs is enough for it for now. Option B: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/67556?tab=description Edit: Tried option B- yeah, go for that. Esp-fe that you can drop into an existing save, awesome functionality, a go to option. this is an interesting thread as I'm working through some MCM issues. I definitely have plenty of bugs I'm trying to sort out in my papyrus log, but I am also stuck at 128 MCM menu entries on a game load. When I reload them, sometimes I get the same ones, sometimes I get different ones. I'll try this MCM Maid mod. I had the Kicker that restarted the MCM on each game load.
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