Resident999 Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 so your mod when done could very well work then.
Ryu Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Well, so far the model works fine except for the loin cloth. I need to find proper templates with skirt bones . It's always the case, heh...
refat Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Okay I understand. Well at least we are getting the Red Sonja armor!!! Keep up the good work.
Ryu Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 So I'm trying to apply the HDT physics flowing skirt script to my model, but so far more problems than successes. There are only 3 templates developed and all of them are still far from perfect (lots of clipping). I managed to attach the script properly so that I see nice flowing movement of the loin cloth. The problem is, it's clipping as hell as the templates were designed in a way to minimize body clipping. Collision detection could help, need to ask around.
Troubadour Posted March 20, 2014 Author Posted March 20, 2014 Is it posible to release a hdt free version? Not that i'd prolly use that version but i guess some ppl avoid everything that is scripted...?
Ryu Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Is it posible to release a hdt free version? Not that i'd prolly use that version but i guess some ppl avoid everything that is scripted...? HDT is actually not obligatory. You can have regular breast bounce from TBBP and it will work, but you can also have more natural HDT-enabled breast bounce for all animations (even those that were not made with TBBP in mind). Same goes for the loin cloth. Without HDT, only the animations that somehow use the skirt bones will show loin cloth flowing movement. Outside of those animations the loin cloth will remain still. By the way, I finished working on the main part of the armor, looks flawless so far. However, I need to weight paint the loin cloth manually since no one has done anything alike before me.
Ryu Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 TBBP works with scripts as well? Yes, it does. However, since I'm using HDT breast physics + a TBBP-compatible body and walking/running/standing idle animation, I don't know what's the effect of the HDT scripts alone . EDIT: Screenies ;D
Ryu Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Quick update and sad news. I tried different approaches to weight painting the loin cloth and so far it seems to be impossible . I'm either getting too much stiffness on some vertices or lots of clipping. Also, the skeleton used for HDT skirts has different bones compared to the skeleton my HGECR body uses. Therefore, I will most likely have to remove the loin cloth altogether and substitute it with panties. I hope you guys are ok with that .
Resident999 Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Quick update and sad news. I tried different approaches to weight painting the loin cloth and so far it seems to be impossible . I'm either getting too much stiffness on some vertices or lots of clipping. Also, the skeleton used for HDT skirts has different bones compared to the skeleton my HGECR body uses. Therefore, I will most likely have to remove the loin cloth altogether and substitute it with panties. I hope you guys are ok with that . panties could work. and depending on how the bra looks, maybe some sort of loin cloth from another mod will mesh up.
Ryu Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Quick update and sad news. I tried different approaches to weight painting the loin cloth and so far it seems to be impossible . I'm either getting too much stiffness on some vertices or lots of clipping. Also, the skeleton used for HDT skirts has different bones compared to the skeleton my HGECR body uses. Therefore, I will most likely have to remove the loin cloth altogether and substitute it with panties. I hope you guys are ok with that . panties could work. and depending on how the bra looks, maybe some sort of loin cloth from another mod will mesh up. The bra is going to be the original Red Sonja bra, as in the screenies .
refat Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 You can make a static loincloth like the 'forsworn armor' from the original game. It will be really difficult to match another loincloth with the current one, because of the scale's size and textures.
Ryu Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 You can make a static loincloth like the 'forsworn armor' from the original game. It will be really difficult to match another loincloth with the current one, because of the scale's size and textures. I tried a static loincloth today morning and unfortunately it still clips :/. I think it's too close to the body and that's why. Right now I'm trying to find a workaround where only the loincloth is animated (the belt stays together with the rest of the armor), but I'm not sure how this will work out . Seems like I'm tackling an intrinsic limitation of the HDT scripts.
Leito86 Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Looks like you're using blender. You should look and see if there is a copy weights option. I use 3ds max and it has a copy weights function. The trick I do is to make sure the loincloth is its own object but still part of the the torso armor. Import something like the falmer armor as it has a loin cloth. Copy the weights from the falmer armor's loin cloth to your loin cloth. Profit.
Ryu Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Looks like you're using blender. You should look and see if there is a copy weights option. I use 3ds max and it has a copy weights function. The trick I do is to make sure the loincloth is its own object but still part of the the torso armor. Import something like the falmer armor as it has a loin cloth. Copy the weights from the falmer armor's loin cloth to your loin cloth. Profit. The Bone Weight Copy is one of my most used Blender scripts . The problem is not weighting it properly, but using the HDT skirt script to fully animate the loin cloth. Just weighting it is easy stuff . Thanks for the help though .
Ryu Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 I made some adjustments and this is how the armor looks now (no loin cloth, screenshot attached) .
Ryu Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 Well, since it seems the Red Sonja outfit is more or less done, it's time for an upload! ;D I usually don't use the _1.nif so you guys just need to copy the _0.nif model and rename the file to _1.nif. Also, I'm attaching the hdt.xml file I'm using. Without it the only source of breast bounce will be TBBP, if someone's OK with that . The hdt.xml script has to be put into the folder of your choosing and then the directory path rewired in the .nif (all according to the multitude of HDT tutorials we already have here on the forums). The model is fully open source and all I would like in return is credits (to me and to the people responsible for making of the xp32 skeleton, TBBP system and HDT physics scripts). You can do whatever you want with the model including rebuilding it, using its objects or converting to other body types. Lastly, enjoy! Red Sonja_0.nif hdt.xml
Ryu Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 I totally forgot about the textures! I'm so sorry xD. Here they are . Also, I will be adding Red Sonja's outfit to my incoming HGECR package together with an .esp. This will appear in the Ryu's Stash of Conversions thread ;D. Red Sonja Textures.zip
Adventurion Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Anyone know if there's an armor around like in the Red Sonia comics? If not,anyone feels like making one for cbbe(bbp if pos),simular to pics,low on the hips. Hiii ! Here you go....Wish it had HDT support Though ... CBBE Bodyslide TBBP Red Sonja outfit by Buffscale McThundertail http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37867/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D37867&pUp=1
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