sickisick123 Posted June 18, 2025 Posted June 18, 2025 Anyone with a better understanding of correct loadorder willing to look at my current loadorder to help me figure out whats wrong (game is currently funky as fk)? much appreciated!!!! # Automatically generated by Vortex Fallout4.esm DLCRobot.esm DLCworkshop01.esm DLCCoast.esm DLCworkshop02.esm DLCworkshop03.esm DLCNukaWorld.esm ccBGSFO4044-HellfirePowerArmor.esl ccBGSFO4046-TesCan.esl ccBGSFO4096-AS_Enclave.esl ccBGSFO4110-WS_Enclave.esl ccBGSFO4115-X02.esl ccBGSFO4116-HeavyFlamer.esl ccFSVFO4007-Halloween.esl ccOTMFO4001-Remnants.esl ccSBJFO4003-Grenade.esl unofficial fallout 4 patch.esp ArmorKeywords.esm XDI.esm WorkshopFramework.esm More Pubic Hair.esl FusionGirlLooksMenu.esl KziitdFetishToolset.esm SkimpyArmorKeywordResource.esm lnrLMFO4AllInOne-PubesForeverOverlays.esl lnrLMFO4AllInOne-AdditionalPubicHairOverlays.esl porcOverlays.esl Bememoth Separated Cart.esl Straw_StrapOn.esl AAF.esm AAFTurnTheLightON.esl AAFThemes.esl CWSS Redux.esp CheatBunker.esm Homemaker.esm TortureDevices.esm Devious Devices.esm StunGun.esl Quick_Change_Armor_by_tooun.esl RSE_II_Resources.esm BodyTalk3-RaiderNormalsFix.esl SKKBallisticWeaveDLC.esp Scrap Everything - 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kannz Posted June 18, 2025 Posted June 18, 2025 (edited) your tried loot or sort? also what version of game are you on? also this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/38672 seems somewhat old and i think there is something else that would replace it. also what version of looksmenu are you using and are you using buffout or any of those types of mods? oh your using workshop framwork hmm i just had a problem with that mod. (**the problem was the replacer was crashing my game so i went back to the older one that doesnt use a replacer)do you use the replacer? it seems like your pre-next gen but that mod may need a replacer for pre-next gen. *still reading your load order. its similar to mine oh LongerPowerLinesInf.esp isnt that redundant? i think workshop framework you can do this? i just noticed you may have incompatible or conflicting mods. FPAttributes.esp and um SexEd.esp and MCG_SexEd_PBTStats.esp. i think i read in description that they dont work well togther unless you disable something in one of the mods that does the same thing? Animated_Fannies.esp i think is that for CBBE only?? ToughGirlAttire.esp CBBE aswell? VtawUtilityPack1.esp CBBE NezzarLingerieCollection.esp CBBE Post Nuclear Girl.esp CBBE DX_Pornstar_Fashion.esp VtawUmbra.esp VtawNurse.esp VtawDominatrix.esp just wondering are you using Fusion girl or CBBE? you are running FusionGirl.esp oh also this isn't a for sure but i heard using cheat things can mess up the game. such as cheat terminal or cheat bunker. i would pick one or none. *still looking at your load order. what is WorkshopFramework_ScriptOverride.esp used for? do you have bodyslide installed? https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/25 have you looked at community fixes Merged it can go with the UF4P https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/74945 i see that you have prisoner shackles they also have that mod with a happiness bonus. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18436?tab=files&file_id=109819 (i dont know how it makes someone happy lol) Edited June 18, 2025 by kannz typos
sickisick123 Posted June 20, 2025 Author Posted June 20, 2025 On 6/18/2025 at 8:40 PM, kannz said: your tried loot or sort? also what version of game are you on? also this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/38672 seems somewhat old and i think there is something else that would replace it. also what version of looksmenu are you using and are you using buffout or any of those types of mods? oh your using workshop framwork hmm i just had a problem with that mod. (**the problem was the replacer was crashing my game so i went back to the older one that doesnt use a replacer)do you use the replacer? it seems like your pre-next gen but that mod may need a replacer for pre-next gen. *still reading your load order. its similar to mine oh LongerPowerLinesInf.esp isnt that redundant? i think workshop framework you can do this? i just noticed you may have incompatible or conflicting mods. FPAttributes.esp and um SexEd.esp and MCG_SexEd_PBTStats.esp. i think i read in description that they dont work well togther unless you disable something in one of the mods that does the same thing? Animated_Fannies.esp i think is that for CBBE only?? ToughGirlAttire.esp CBBE aswell? VtawUtilityPack1.esp CBBE NezzarLingerieCollection.esp CBBE Post Nuclear Girl.esp CBBE DX_Pornstar_Fashion.esp VtawUmbra.esp VtawNurse.esp VtawDominatrix.esp just wondering are you using Fusion girl or CBBE? you are running FusionGirl.esp oh also this isn't a for sure but i heard using cheat things can mess up the game. such as cheat terminal or cheat bunker. i would pick one or none. *still looking at your load order. what is WorkshopFramework_ScriptOverride.esp used for? do you have bodyslide installed? https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/25 have you looked at community fixes Merged it can go with the UF4P https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/74945 i see that you have prisoner shackles they also have that mod with a happiness bonus. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18436?tab=files&file_id=109819 (i dont know how it makes someone happy lol) Thanks for your help!! Let me try to answer some of your questions: - I used both loot and sort once each after installing the last mod - I use NG version of the game - I have bodyslides installed - I use Fusion Girl (standard body, still confused about bodyslides lol) - also latest F4SE, AAF, Looksmenu - Animated Fannies is for CBBE but it seems to work on FG as well (unless FG animates the holes by itself?) - All the clothes mods you mentioned also have an FG compatibilty patch (although not sure about Post Nuclear Outfit) - Workshop script override is this one https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/35004 - I'll check out the community fixes, thx for the hint! I think I might have some fix mod installed, is it safe to combine multiple fix mods? - cheat bunker and cheat terminal seem to work well for me, at least I never noticed going wrong that seemed to be caused by them. although I learned to not use the full auto mini nuke rifle unless I want to enjoy the game at 0.5 fps LOL thx again!
kannz Posted June 20, 2025 Posted June 20, 2025 (edited) its okay for multiple fix mods i use community fixes merged with the unofficial patch and a few crash fixes and script extender mods. you just need to make sure to have them in the order usually suggested by the mod or if its a F4se fix have it in the f4se folder. also is that the version you use? also what version of worksshopframework do you use and which version of override? since your NG you shouldnt need the replacer. oh also have you built the body and added in any bodyslide files needed? oh also make sure to remove LongerPowerLinesInf.esp also you have the bodyslide files for KFT right? i dont see them (still looking at your load order) oh yeah also you use buffout right? the most current version? https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4598 UF4P https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/74945 Community fixes https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/64880 buffout (get the optional pdb file also it says that in description) https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/33946 preloader https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/72904 navcut fix https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/49997 photomode https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/55419 supf4se https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/47760 sprintstutterfix https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44798 highfpsfix https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/72657 outfit redress fix oh also i consider this a kind of fix for immersion https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22105 rename anything https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/58259 rename anything enhanced oh also i saw a good youtube video on how to use bodyslide ill find that real quick. I make a dummy mod like he does in the video now lol i dont know if it helps but mo2 likes to complain about overwrite files a lot so maybe lol. heres the video Edited June 20, 2025 by kannz
plutocene Posted June 20, 2025 Posted June 20, 2025 First of, without a proper bug report, nobody can help you. "Funky as fuck" doesn't mean a thing. Second, the load order is atrocious. You also did not specify which mod organizer you are using. If you are using Vortex, drop it immediately. Non negotiable. Been there, done that, it will fuck you up. I assume your issues are AAF related, read this and follow the guide to the letter. It also explains the load order for AAF related plugins. Most other stuff doesn't really matter when it is loaded, except Scrapping mods and PRP related mods, which need to go last. In Mod Organizer, you can see which mod conflicts with which most of the time. These mods need to get sorted, individually. Loot can't do that, i. e. if a skin texture mod is winning the conflict with fusion girl. The CBBE clothing mods wont work properly but can be ignored for now. I'd fix the load order first, then replace all CBBE stuff with FG equivalents, thats just eye candy. Some of these mods will also need Facegen, if you have npcs with missing heads or hair that is drawn out the length of a football stadion and or lagspikes, that is a clear indication of this issue. You'll need X-Cell for that. Needs configuration to work along Buffout, see the X-Cell page on the nexus. And finally, do not combine mods if you are not certain what you are doing. You can combine workshop mods with workshop mods, armor, weapons, and npcs but thats pretty much all I would touch. You can also elsify plugins or flag them as .esl, if they have no navcell data, or scripts attached OR crucially are not referenced by something else. If they are master plugins for something, do not touch them unless you know how to forward changes. 1
sickisick123 Posted June 21, 2025 Author Posted June 21, 2025 (edited) 12 hours ago, kannz said: its okay for multiple fix mods i use community fixes merged with the unofficial patch and a few crash fixes and script extender mods. you just need to make sure to have them in the order usually suggested by the mod or if its a F4se fix have it in the f4se folder. also is that the version you use? also what version of worksshopframework do you use and which version of override? since your NG you shouldnt need the replacer. oh also have you built the body and added in any bodyslide files needed? oh also make sure to remove LongerPowerLinesInf.esp also you have the bodyslide files for KFT right? i dont see them (still looking at your load order) oh yeah also you use buffout right? the most current version? https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4598 UF4P https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/74945 Community fixes https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/64880 buffout (get the optional pdb file also it says that in description) https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/33946 preloader https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/72904 navcut fix https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/49997 photomode https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/55419 supf4se https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/47760 sprintstutterfix https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44798 highfpsfix https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/72657 outfit redress fix oh also i consider this a kind of fix for immersion https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22105 rename anything https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/58259 rename anything enhanced oh also i saw a good youtube video on how to use bodyslide ill find that real quick. I make a dummy mod like he does in the video now lol i dont know if it helps but mo2 likes to complain about overwrite files a lot so maybe lol. heres the video thank you so much! Edited June 21, 2025 by sickisick123
sickisick123 Posted June 21, 2025 Author Posted June 21, 2025 10 hours ago, plutocene said: First of, without a proper bug report, nobody can help you. "Funky as fuck" doesn't mean a thing. Second, the load order is atrocious. You also did not specify which mod organizer you are using. If you are using Vortex, drop it immediately. Non negotiable. Been there, done that, it will fuck you up. I assume your issues are AAF related, read this and follow the guide to the letter. It also explains the load order for AAF related plugins. Most other stuff doesn't really matter when it is loaded, except Scrapping mods and PRP related mods, which need to go last. In Mod Organizer, you can see which mod conflicts with which most of the time. These mods need to get sorted, individually. Loot can't do that, i. e. if a skin texture mod is winning the conflict with fusion girl. The CBBE clothing mods wont work properly but can be ignored for now. I'd fix the load order first, then replace all CBBE stuff with FG equivalents, thats just eye candy. Some of these mods will also need Facegen, if you have npcs with missing heads or hair that is drawn out the length of a football stadion and or lagspikes, that is a clear indication of this issue. You'll need X-Cell for that. Needs configuration to work along Buffout, see the X-Cell page on the nexus. And finally, do not combine mods if you are not certain what you are doing. You can combine workshop mods with workshop mods, armor, weapons, and npcs but thats pretty much all I would touch. You can also elsify plugins or flag them as .esl, if they have no navcell data, or scripts attached OR crucially are not referenced by something else. If they are master plugins for something, do not touch them unless you know how to forward changes. ehehehe, yup I use vortex. which alternative is better? thanks, I will check out x-cell! not really having issues with malformed hair or missing heads, except sometimes during aaf animations some parts of the body gets stretched out by lets say 200% for about 0.1 second. I dont think I've ever (willingly) combined mods, I have no idea how to even do that. maybe vortex did it?
plutocene Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 8 hours ago, sickisick123 said: ehehehe, yup I use vortex. which alternative is better? thanks, I will check out x-cell! not really having issues with malformed hair or missing heads, except sometimes during aaf animations some parts of the body gets stretched out by lets say 200% for about 0.1 second. I dont think I've ever (willingly) combined mods, I have no idea how to even do that. maybe vortex did it? Well, then thats exactly the cause of your problems. Vortex does not have the ability to combine mods. That requires a different tool. Skip that entirely for now. Step 1 get mod organizer 2 If you are lost, follow the tutorials by Gamer poet. Step 2, follow the fucking manual when setting up AAF and dependencies. Step 3, once you have set up and tested this, you can deal with X-Cell. It will fix or at least mitigate your head and hair issues, but it will require facegen data to work properly. That you can either download for a specific mod if someone made it already, or you can create it yourself using this tool https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/86374. Will require some set up and learning though. I. e. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/94048 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/86384 Step 4, test, find and fix remaining problems.
izzyknows Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 9 hours ago, sickisick123 said: which alternative is better? The all work just fine. All you have to do is pick one and learn how it works. Personally, I prefer Nexus Mod Manager, mainly because it's very easy and simple to use. But, like I just said, choose one and learn how to use it.
kannz Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 (edited) Oh i prefer mod manager 2 as well. i had a few problems with vortex. another note i guess that mod i suggested rename anything and enhanced may only work with pre-next gen unless you use a down-grader i think. also this 3rd mod would be required as well for it to work. Text input menu https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/27347 Edited June 21, 2025 by kannz
kannz Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 (edited) if you still have a performance issue after your all done maybe look at a mod called x-cell https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/84214?tab=description heres a video Edited June 21, 2025 by kannz
kannz Posted June 26, 2025 Posted June 26, 2025 (edited) cool what mods did u add in? or what settings did you change? i added in x-cell and my game seems way more stable. also since im using old(pre-nextgen) i also used the older version of xcell and the ini that removes the facegen. here are files for pre next gen. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/84214?tab=files&file_id=343619 x-cell with the version that uses a ini https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/89842?tab=files&file_id=342224 the ini that "maxes" out xcell and removes facegen (for pre-nextgen) ** for next gen u need face gen. https://www.nexusmods.com/Core/Libs/Common/Widgets/ModRequirementsPopUp?id=356490&game_id=1151 most current x-cell https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/86374?tab=description Vault-Tec Enhanced FaceGen System VEFS ( for next gen) i posted this because i read that facegen causes small lags in the newest version of fallout Edited June 26, 2025 by kannz
sickisick123 Posted June 26, 2025 Author Posted June 26, 2025 I installed all the fix mods from your list which I hadn't installed yet. then tried to adjust the load order to the best of my knowledge with the help of the fucking manual (still a work in progress). however, I suspect that most isssues stemmed from trying out mods that then caused problems and de-installing them again (probably some left over code in the save file or something) or installing some mods mid-game. everything works well in a newly started game. I also checked my old save which had aaf basically completely broken and it works much better now (still a bit funky though).
kannz Posted June 26, 2025 Posted June 26, 2025 i read somewhere that sorting or changing your load order can cause problems in that save depending on the mod. its best to make a new save after a sorting or changing the load order. i dont know if its true but any time i mess with mods i make a new game along with it.
sickisick123 Posted June 27, 2025 Author Posted June 27, 2025 yeah, I think I'll start doing that as well.
nmagod Posted June 29, 2025 Posted June 29, 2025 also please don't rely on LOOT to fix anything it's not even recommended to use it at all 1
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