FappingMatez Posted May 24, 2025 Posted May 24, 2025 Newbie modder with no clue what I'm doing, I've been playing for a couple days with mods now without any problems, but now for seemingly little reason, I'm freezing a few minutes after launching (or instantly when I use wait) I used BOSS and my load order is fine for the things it DID recognise, though there's a few it didn't that I just kinda guessed on. Seemed fine when I started anyway and I haven't really had any problems with mod functionality at all since I started playing, and the ones I did have were fixed with archive invalidation Load Order: Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm Lovers with PK.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm x117race.esm DLCShiveringIsles.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp FullDMRA.esp TrawlolsCorinthianPitFighter.esp AllinOne.esp AllinOne2.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversHiyokoClub.esp HiyokoGenetics.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp HiyokoGeneratorGeneForge.esp TamagoSetBody.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversRaperS.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp xLCR.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp SkipTutorialv3.esp SetBody.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp IPSkoolTest.esp JJManualLeveling.esp BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp I added MessageLogger, but I'm not entirely sure if any of it is actually of use because there's no CTD, but I'll add the two log files too since I'm not really sure what I need to provide MessageLogger: Loading ini file... Loading ignored addresses... Maximum number of ignored addresses is 30. Logger will ignore messages from address 004B5C84. Logger will ignore messages from address 0051BDF7. Logger will ignore messages from address 00510A66. Logger will ignore messages from address 00510A38. Logger will ignore messages from address 0055BF54. Logger will ignore messages from address 0051284B. Logger will ignore messages from address 004722F3. Logger will ignore messages from address 004C70EB. Logger will ignore messages from address 004E752A. Logger will ignore messages from address 00479264. Logger will ignore messages from address 0047493F. Logger will ignore messages from address 006AA11C. Logger will ignore messages from address 0050A1B8. Logger will ignore messages from address 007B78EC. Logger will ignore messages from address 007B790B. Logger will ignore messages from address 008A0B87. Installing main hooks... Error messages will be logged. Warning messages will be logged. Debug messages will be logged. Channel 4 messages will be logged. Installing optional hooks... TESForm::GetDescription() hook installed. ExtraDataList::InitItem() warning message hook installed. Animation::LoadSpecialAnims() warning message hook installed. Installing EditorID hooks... TESClass vtable hook installed. TESFaction vtable hook installed. TESHair vtable hook installed. TESEyes vtable hook installed. TESRace vtable hook installed. TESSkill vtable hook installed. EffectSetting vtable hook installed. Script vtable hook installed. TESLandTexture vtable hook installed. EnchantmentItem vtable hook installed. SpellItem vtable hook installed. BirthSign vtable hook installed. TESObjectACTI vtable hook installed. TESObjectAPPA vtable hook installed. TESObjectARMO vtable hook installed. TESObjectBOOK vtable hook installed. TESObjectCLOT vtable hook installed. TESObjectCONT vtable hook installed. TESObjectDOOR vtable hook installed. IngredientItem vtable hook installed. TESObjectLIGH vtable hook installed. TESObjectMISC vtable hook installed. TESObjectSTAT vtable hook installed. TESGrass vtable hook installed. TESObjectTREE vtable hook installed. TESFlora vtable hook installed. TESFurniture vtable hook installed. TESObjectWEAP vtable hook installed. TESAmmo vtable hook installed. TESNPC vtable hook installed. TESCreature vtable hook installed. TESLevCreature vtable hook installed. TESSoulGem vtable hook installed. TESKey vtable hook installed. AlchemyItem vtable hook installed. TESSubSpace vtable hook installed. TESSigilStone vtable hook installed. TESLevItem vtable hook installed. TESWeather vtable hook installed. TESClimate vtable hook installed. TESRegion vtable hook installed. TESObjectREFR vtable hook installed. Character vtable hook installed. Creature vtable hook installed. TESPathGrid vtable hook installed. TESObjectLAND vtable hook installed. TESRoad vtable hook installed. TESTopicInfo vtable hook installed. TESIdleForm vtable hook installed. TESPackage vtable hook installed. TESCombatStyle vtable hook installed. TESLoadScreen vtable hook installed. TESLevSpell vtable hook installed. TESObjectANIO vtable hook installed. TESWaterForm vtable hook installed. TESEffectShader vtable hook installed. Initialization finished. MessageLog: 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0041154A] [ DEBUG ] SceneGraph 'World' Created. Camera name 'CreateNewCamera'. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0041154A] [ DEBUG ] SceneGraph 'Menu' Created. Camera name 'CreateNewCamera'. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0041154A] [ DEBUG ] SceneGraph '3DMenu' Created. Camera name 'CreateNewCamera'. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "LoversTamagoClub.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "LoversRaperS.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "Lovers with PK.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "LoversBitch.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "xLCR.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "LoversCreature.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "LoversMB2.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "LoversSlaveTrader.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F594] [WARNING] One of the files that "LSTBravilUnderground.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0044F66E] [WARNING] One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB7) on owner object "NDArmorLightGreaves5". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB8) on owner object "NDArmorLightGauntlets5". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB9) on owner object "NDArmorLightCuirass5". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DBA) on owner object "NDArmorLightBoots5". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB7) on owner object "NDArmorLightGreaves4". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB8) on owner object "NDArmorLightGauntlets4". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB9) on owner object "NDArmorLightCuirass4". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DBA) on owner object "NDArmorLightBoots4". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB7) on owner object "NDArmorLightGreaves3". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB8) on owner object "NDArmorLightGauntlets3". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB9) on owner object "NDArmorLightCuirass3". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DBA) on owner object "NDArmorLightBoots3". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB7) on owner object "NDArmorLightGreaves2". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB8) on owner object "NDArmorLightGauntlets2". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB9) on owner object "NDArmorLightCuirass2". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DBA) on owner object "NDArmorLightBoots2". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB7) on owner object "NDArmorLightGreaves1". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB8) on owner object "NDArmorLightGauntlets1". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB9) on owner object "NDArmorLightCuirass1". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DBA) on owner object "NDArmorLightBoots1". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB7) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyGreaves5". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB8) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyGauntlets5". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB9) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyCuirass5". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DBA) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyBoots5". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB7) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyGreaves4". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB8) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyGauntlets4". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB9) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyCuirass4". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DBA) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyBoots4". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB7) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyGreaves3". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB8) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyGauntlets3". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB9) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyCuirass3". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DBA) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyBoots3". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB7) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyGreaves2". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB8) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyGauntlets2". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB9) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyCuirass2". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DBA) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyBoots2". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB7) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyGreaves1". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB8) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyGauntlets1". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DB9) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyCuirass1". 2025/05/24 02:37:28 [0046F0AA] [WARNING] Unable to find script (17000DBA) on owner object "NDArmorHeavyBoots1". 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -3, -3 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -3, -2 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -3, -1 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -3, 0 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -3, 1 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -3, 2 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -2, -3 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -2, -2 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -2, -1 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -2, 0 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -2, 1 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -2, 2 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -1, -3 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -1, -2 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -1, -1 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -1, 0 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -1, 1 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for -1, 2 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 0, -3 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 0, -2 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 0, -1 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 0, 0 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 0, 1 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 0, 2 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 1, -3 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 1, -2 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 1, -1 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 1, 0 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 1, 1 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 1, 2 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 2, -3 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 2, -2 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 2, -1 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 2, 0 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 2, 1 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:30 [004EB314] [ DEBUG ] Found terrain LOD file for 2, 2 in worldspace 'Tamriel' 2025/05/24 02:37:34 [0046E58C] [WARNING] Unable to find race (02002A4C) on owner object (FF1AF05B). 2025/05/24 02:37:41 [005170B1] [WARNING] Unable to find function definition for command 0 in script 'xLoversCheckObse2QuestScript'. 2025/05/24 02:37:46 [005170B1] [WARNING] Unable to find function definition for command 0 in script 'xLoversCheckObse2QuestScript'. 2025/05/24 02:37:52 [005170B1] [WARNING] Unable to find function definition for command 0 in script 'xLoversCheckObse2QuestScript'. Not sure if that one is useful, but since it mentioned dependencies I thought it could be useful? I have changed my load order multiple times but reset Hiyoko/Tamago each time Noteworthy that I did see another post saying they had the same issue, but later discovered their problem was that they'd removed mods that they previously had on that save file. I haven't removed any of my mods. The only ones I have added today are the latter two in the load order, but this was also several hours before the issues started Also, sorry if this is an obvious/repeated problem. I have no idea what the actual source of the problem is to begin with, so I wasn't really sure where to start looking besides other threads about freezing, but the ones I checked didn't seem relevant. Please let me know if there's anything else I can provide to figure this out, thanks!
tda4 Posted May 24, 2025 Posted May 24, 2025 (edited) I'm not sure. what you have, be sure that you downloaded the Prison Spank Mod, from the Nexus, I think. I corrected the code there. skeleton for character. It is better to use the same type of skeleton for the view from the eyes - by the set of bones (here are my working light skeletons, they don't have wings and such, but they do have a bolt etc.) 111skeleton.zip Edited May 24, 2025 by tda4
fejeena Posted May 24, 2025 Posted May 24, 2025 (edited) Do you have the problem with a new game ? The bug can be in your save . You said " I have changed my load order multiple times. . . " You can copy a bug from save to save, If your game works with a new game/player you have to start a new game. With an old save you can try a clean save : Go into a vanilla house without Mod changes and use the wait function. Wait at least 3 days so a respawing stuff and thing the game no longer needs are gone. Save ! Now quit the game ! ! ! There may still be buggy scripts and settings active! Then start the game and load your save. And bug tests always with a new game ! If a new game works you can try an old save and if the save does not work you know the bug is in the save. I hope you NEVER load a save in game ! Some functions are not reset when you load a save in game. Example: You're having a problem or did something wrong and are loading an old save, but some things are still active. This way, you can copy bug from one save to the next. ALWAYS quit the game and then restart it! I see in MessageLog: Unable to find function definition for command 0 in script 'xLoversCheckObse2QuestScript'. that means Lovers with PK.esm can not find OBSE. Do you have the same message in the console ? If you are sure you have OBSE and it is working you can use my Lovers with PK.esm without the OBSE check. The always running script can crash your game. ( Maybe that is your freeze ) Lovers with PK.7z LOAD ORDER: xLCR.esp Delete it, It is a test esp for modders. ( this will not fix your problem. Nothing will change in your game. Just one less unused esp ) Sure you can use both ? Or only one ? AllinOne.esp AllinOne2.esp DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp fine, but . . . FullDMRA.esp ? can you use this and the one above? I don't use DMRA, I couldn't figure out what it is. Is it armor AND clothing? then you would have 2 esp for the same. IPSkoolTest.esp above Lovers You have quite a few Beautiful People mods, normally it looks like this, or even more. The red Beautiful People esp in the load order spoiler. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ I don't like and use Beautiful People. Sure you want it ? need it? ( LSTBravilUnderground.esp you can play with my No-MBP version ) The end of your load order how I would sort them: IPSkoolTest.esp Tamago Lovers SkipTutorialv3.esp BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp SetBody.esp JJManualLeveling.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp I don't know which esm and esp are being merged, but do you have all the master files of these merge esp? Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp I don't know which esm and esp are being merged, but do you have all the master files of these merge esp? Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp ------------------- EDIT: And if your problem isn't resolved, you'll need to uninstall mods and test the game! With a new game ! Until it works, and you found the guilty mod. Then you can test your old save, maybe it works and you can still use it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And more about problems, read my Link https://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbbmod-sorting-and-cleaningcs-cse-body-stretching/?do=findComment&comment=915257 Edited May 24, 2025 by fejeena
FappingMatez Posted May 24, 2025 Author Posted May 24, 2025 I do tend to jump between saves. Didn't realise that this could mess with things and I'd tested a few recent saves that were clearly affected too Went back to an older save and the issues are seemingly gone (for now). Got lost in the sauce trying to figure out what was wrong, but sometimes its the simplest solutions that go over your head. Thanks a bunch, and also thank you for your vast documentation on the mods! It's the only reason I was able to get them set up in the first place
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