urielmanx7 Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 Hi Just a quick question, Does having multiple armor replacers installed together conflict with each other and make the game crash? Like for instance, I have 2 armor replacer packs, but I like some of the armor of pack #2 over pack#1, so I install first pack#1, then pack#2 so the armors I like form pack#2 overwrite pack#1's. But recently I'm having this CTD when I try to loot a body or open the menu (system and player), as soon as I press the button the game crashes, and it's random, like, after I enter a tomb, a kill a draugr, and then go to loot it, and the game crashes, then I reopen and do the same but nothing happens, so I thought something that has to do with item names, or modifies them must be the culprit, at first I thought it might be Unkwon Enchants, so I removed it but stills crashes, and the only other thing I have is the armor replacers, oh, and before someone asks, mainly it's Killer Keos skimpy pack for CBBE, and Killer Keos pack ported for UNP with BBP. So, my guess is that since both mods have .esp files, not only the meshes, some where along the road they conflict with each other and since Skyrim is so sensitive to unexpected things, it crashes at the slightest sign. Thanks in advance. Specs: CPU i7 Intel 3770K 3.5GHz GPU GTx660 Nvidia 2Gb 8Gb Ram Load Order
...0... Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 Hi Just a quick question, Does having multiple armor replacers installed together conflict with each other and make the game crash? Like for instance, I have 2 armor replacer packs, but I like some of the armor of pack #2 over pack#1, so I install first pack#1, then pack#2 so the armors I like form pack#2 overwrite pack#1's. But recently I'm having this CTD when I try to loot a body or open the menu (system and player), as soon as I press the button the game crashes, and it's random, like, after I enter a tomb, a kill a draugr, and then go to loot it, and the game crashes, then I reopen and do the same but nothing happens, so I thought something that has to do with item names, or modifies them must be the culprit, at first I thought it might be Unkwon Enchants, so I removed it but stills crashes, and the only other thing I have is the armor replacers, oh, and before someone asks, mainly it's Killer Keos skimpy pack for CBBE, and Killer Keos pack ported for UNP with BBP. So, my guess is that since both mods have .esp files, not only the meshes, some where along the road they conflict with each other and since Skyrim is so sensitive to unexpected things, it crashes at the slightest sign. Thanks in advance. If i don't pay attention to my load order i got sometimes same result when i open a corpse or menu i crash. But i find out that when i place the big armor packs bottom load order i don't have any crashes well at least for long while i don't. I know some mods just crash after no matter what for example winter overhaul or some scripted mods but that's how skyrim worke's and bethesda made it shitty bugged game, i have to accept that. Just an friendly advice next time give some more info like load order and what pc you run skyrim on so expersts can help you better.
Uriel Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 I had exactly the same problem before, and was unable to find the cause that time. But recently, one user reported that he had this problem too, and then he suddenly found the cause - Remodeled armor from Nexus. So, are you using one? Is it an UNP version by chance? Cause when i was crashing, i had it installed.
...0... Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 I had exactly the same problem before, and was unable to find the cause that time. But recently, one user reported that he had this problem too, and then he suddenly found the cause - Remodeled armor from Nexus. So, are you using one? Is it an UNP version by chance? Cause when i was crashing, i had it installed. Yes sometimes mods crash you just remove last ones and see if it helps easy fix this can be one of the many reason why you could crash.
urielmanx7 Posted December 3, 2013 Author Posted December 3, 2013 I had exactly the same problem before, and was unable to find the cause that time. But recently, one user reported that he had this problem too, and then he suddenly found the cause - Remodeled armor from Nexus. So, are you using one? Is it an UNP version by chance? Cause when i was crashing, i had it installed. I'm using these: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/13004/? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34100/? Gotta try disabling the UNP and see what happens.
Uriel Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 I suspect this must be some kind of inconsistency between BSDismemberSkinInstance in one of the remodeled meshes and .esp/.esm record. Skyrim behaves very strange while encountering those.
urielmanx7 Posted December 3, 2013 Author Posted December 3, 2013 After uninstalling the unp remodeled armor, I played a complete dungeon and no crash so far, at least not form looting, still got a CTD out of the blue after I was outside the dungeon while walking.
...0... Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 After uninstalling the unp remodeled armor, I played a complete dungeon and no crash so far, at least not form looting, still got a CTD out of the blue after I was outside the dungeon while walking. Some reason why you can crash and prefend it. ISSUES AND BUG FIXES //++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 0) First of all, almost all problems happen because of things you did to your game or OS, various fake memory tweakers, boosters are at first place. Antiviruses, bad drivers, overlay monitoring, capturing, overclocking, etc etc etc prevent normal functionality. Also if you configured game incorrectly by modifying skyrimprefs.ini, it's also lead you to nowhere. This prooved many times, not just by one user, you all do the same mistakes. 1) If you have crashes at startup, run as admin and make sure no other software hooking in to game process, for example some antiviruses, screen capturing tools, videocard monitoring or overclocking. Afterburner, D3D Overrider, EVGA, ATI Tray Tools, DXTory, Fraps, XFire - some versions of these software incompatible with wrapper version of ENBSeries, so use injector version or disable those utils. Also Skyrim Performance Monitor may produce this behavior, try without it or set in it's options D3D9 mods compatibility. 2) Lower performance when borderless window mode turned on together with vsync, to fix disable any of them. 3) If stuttering bother too much, edit enblocal.ini file vriables ExpandSystemMemoryX64, ReduceSystemMemoryUsage(especially this one), DisableDriverMemoryManager. 4) ALT-TAB not work in fullscreen mode when EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=true 5) Game by default forcing vsync to be on, in enblocal.ini parameter exist which toggle it, so modify if you have issues with screen tearing. 6) Infinite loading happen when frame rate is too high, use fps limiter or vsync vua EnableFPSLimiter=true or EnableVSync=true in enblocal.ini. 7) (obsolette issue for latest version) Creation Kit (CK) is not work properly, delete d3d9.dll (or don't run injector version if it used instead of wrapper) or use another enblocal.ini which don't have memory fixes enabled. Future versions may work, not sure yet. 8) Pixelated screen means that you have borderless window enabled in enblocal.ini. This is good feature for those users who know what to do with it. 9) Strange behavior of game physics, flying objects - you have too much high fps, turn on VSync or FPSLimiter in enblocal.ini, this is game bug. 10) ALT-TAB not work, amount crashes not reduced, stuttering and textures are missing. This probably because enbhost.exe process not started by the mod because of admin rights issues. This problem not occur when ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=false set. 11) Red text message appear in the left top corner. So, why the hell everybody say it's error message? If you don't see "error" word in it, then it's not an error, but important notice or warning. 12) Graphic effects do not work after installing this. To turn on ENBSeries as graphic mod (ENBoost use only patch of it), set parameter UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=false in enblocal.ini. 13) Stuttering with newest versions or low performance at some locations means that your VRAM is full, press F4 key to free it (can be assigned to another key via KeyFreeVRAM in enblocal.ini file). Also you may change ReservedMemorySizeMb to fix stuttering. Later i'll do tweaks against this issue. 14) Process enbhost.exe not working, so memory reduction is not effective as with it, if hdtPhysicsExtensions mod installed.
urielmanx7 Posted December 3, 2013 Author Posted December 3, 2013 I don't use ENBoost, tried it a while back, but it just seems to put more pressure on my game, so no, I don't use it.
urielmanx7 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Posted December 6, 2013 Ok, I have been playing with only one armor replacer, and so far the CTD hadn't happened while looting bodies. However, I had various CTD while in shop menus and one when trading something with my follower, so it seems that there's still something menu/inventory related that's been causing the CTD's...
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