Mod load order optimisation

[irid]

As many others have posted here, I'm getting random CTDs on weird things. Sometimes, on pulling out my journal, I CTD but other times I just need to approach a location. Sometimes it seems there is no cause at all. I think what is causing all of this is a faulty load order but I have had no real success for the life of me.

 

I'm not asking for somebody to literally pull apart my load order and place it how it should be (though it would be really awesome if somebody did). What I'm looking for is a general outline on acceptable load order modding practices. For instance, what specific kind of mod do I put behind another? BOSS usually has at least 70 or so mods it doesn't recognise, many of which are quite large and I believe to be the root of many random CTD issues.

 

Here is my load order. I have also included mods I have off by default but have otherwise installed:

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=0
itsatrap!.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
LevelersTower.esm=1
MagicDuel.esm=1
phiNoFF.esm=1
SPIKE.esm=1
XFLMain.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
Falskaar.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1
Xvision Children.esm=0
ImmersiveBountyHunting_Bandits.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=0
HighResTexturePack02.esp=0
HighResTexturePack03.esp=0
RelightingSkyrim.esp=1
Relighting Skyrim - Update.esp=1
Relighting Skyrim - Dawnguard.esp=1
Relighting Skyrim - Dragonborn.esp=1
USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp=1
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=0
Delphine Makeover.esp=1
Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1
RevampedExteriorFog.esp=1
SplashofRain.esp=1
IceBreaker's Improved Reverb-v0.02-Cleaned.esp=1
LIAT - Sounds.esp=1
Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp=1
better_torches_brighter_torchlight.esp=1
Blackout_Skyrim.esp=0
Warmer Magic Lights v2 - Big.esp=1
Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp=0
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1
AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp=1
DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp=1
DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1
ImmersiveBountyHunting.esp=1
itsatrap!.esp=1
Legionettes.esp=1
LIAT - NPCs.esp=1
People Have Lanterns.esp=1
Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1
DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp=1
Footprints.esp=1
Footprints - Ash.esp=1
IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp=0
RaceMenu.esp=0
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=0
towConversation.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
Customizable Camera.esp=1
Bouncy-Bodices-Booties-Belts-Stockings.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
HuntressArmor.esp=1
KWTelescope.esp=1
SleekSteel_StandAlone.esp=1
Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp=1
UNPB Barbarian Armor.esp=1
WestWindMisfit.esp=1
Lock Overhaul.esp=1
A Real Imperial Camp.esp=1
Beautiful Whiterun.esp=1
Bluecreek Estate.esp=1
buildablehouse.esp=1
CastleGrey.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp=1
JobsofSkyrim.esp=1
RealisticWhiterun.esp=1
RiversideLodge.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
Skyrim School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
Work a Steady Job as a Blacksmith.esp=1
Wyrmstooth.esp=1
YourMarketStall.esp=1
female mannequins.esp=1
WSBP - OcciFemale.esp=1
WSBP - OriMale.esp=1
Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp=1
ArchmageTolfdir.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp=1
ESFCompanions.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
Headtracking.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1
dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp=1
Speed Revised.esp=1
Spells Cast Light.esp=1
UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1
VariousGuardReplacer.esp=1
bathhouse.esp=1
DarkbroSanctuary1.0.0.esp=1
Helgen Reborn.esp=1
Populated Cities 2.esp=1
SoS - The Dungeons.esp=1
SoS - The Wilds.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp=0
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp=0
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp=0
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp=0
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp=0
Better Vampires ML.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
Balanced_Magic.esp=1
MasterTheTimeAndSpaceTOGGLE.esp=0
ssapbwk.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
ForgottenMagic.esp=1
Enchanting Freedom.esp=1
Realistic crime report radius.esp=1
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp=1
Dodge Mod.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
25XCarryWeight.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1
Sit Anywhere.esp=1
Skyhawk_eat_drink_animation.esp=1
Brows.esp=1
LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
Children of Skyrim - NORD PRESETS 11-20.esp=1
3DNPC.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1
RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1
Disease Descriptions_RND Compatibile.esp=1
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
RND_UniqueBoozeBottles-Patch.esp=1
HothFollower.esp=1
Viconia.esp=1
XFLDialogue.esp=1
XFLPlugins.esp=1
specializedfollowers.esp=1
Atvir.esp=1
KhajiitChildren.esp=1
Serana1.3.esp=1
WOME_Galadriel.esp=1
CerwidenCompanion.esp=1
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp=1
CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1
Facelight.esp=1
TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp=1
Animated Enchantments.esp=1
getSnowy.esp=1
No More Glowing Edges.esp=1
Purewaters.esp=1
PurewatersDG.esp=1
PurewatersDB.esp=1
RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1
Bestiality_NudeBears.esp=0
Black Rose Outfit.esp=1
Civil War Overhaul.esp=1
CollegeOfWinterholdGloryv.1.6.esp=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
DF_T33.esp=1
Inigo.esp=1
LeatherThiefArmor.esp=1
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=0
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1
SexLab Cumshot.esp=1
SOS Equipable Schlong.esp=1
SexLab Solutions.esp=1
SexLab Submit.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1
SexLabSquirt.esp=0
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp=1
SmartCast_1_0.esp=1
Tamriel Reloaded.esp=1
SexLab_MindControl.esp=0
AOS.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=0
StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1
ADS.esp=1
Children of Skyrim - NORD PRESETS 1-10.esp=1
AngrimApprentice.esp=1
HentaiCreatures.esp=1
SexLabBeastTamer.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
CombatCaster.esp=1
SexLab RND.esp=1
SexLab Romance.esp=1
SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp=1
SexLabGuild.esp=1
Skyrim Tycoon - Reloaded.esp=1
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1
Xvision Children - Complete.esp=0
zzzSXP.esp=1
DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp=1
[MPX] NPC Gender Race Heights +Dawnguard.esp=1
TJoP - Horse Fix.esp=1
FollowerCompatibility.esp=1
Devious Devices - Integration.esp=1
Devious Deviants.esp=1
NailsUNP.esp=1
sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1
SDpatch - dawnguard.esp=1
SDpatch - dragonborn.esp=1
SDpatch - frostfall.esp=1
SexWithThieves.esp=1
Storefront.esp=1
ENB Snow FX.esp=0
enb_reference.esp=0
SexLabMatchMaker.esp=0
Soulfire.esp=1
Relighting Skyrim - HearthFire.esp=1
APPS.esp=1
dip.esp=1
Sextreme-BEG_Series.esp=1
Sextreme-All.esp=1
Ekkii Spouse Life.esp=1
FalskaarRNDHotfix.esp=1
Headtrack Crosshair.esp=1
Skyrim Summer Overhaul.esp=1
InigoPerkPointGiver.esp=1
 

Thanks heaps for any help!

[sheloveme]

if i have saw right you didn´t install this patch http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/38361//?

 

and you should mabey sort mods which are the same like the other put together..

and live another life shoul be very low in the order the best is put it at last in order...

pand followers can be put very low in the order too ^^ i guess

 

and you should put esm after esm :| (only the unofficial patches with .esp you can put by the esm because this files only called false this esp =esm)

 

example: costumrace then the next costum race.....the same with the follower mods...

 

i will show you my load order as example...

 

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
Skykids.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ElinRace.esm=1
ElinRaceTaint.esm=1
SK Monli Race.esm=1
SK Drow Child Race.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1
SummerWear.esm=1
UndergroundBathhouse.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
actorEvents.esm=1
fox_shop.esm=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
HentaiPregnancy.esm=1
SK TheEyesOfBeauty.esm=1
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1
SK ApachiiHairFemales.esp=1
prod80_CoT_patch_FogEdition.esp=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
ELFXEnhancer.esp=1
ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1
DSpSoB.esp=1
GiveGiftstoNPCs.esp=1
LoversComfort.esp=1
HentaiMilk_HEARTHFIRE.esp=1
HPSoulGemBirth.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1
SexLab_Paycrime.esp=1
SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
SexLab Cumshot.esp=1
SexLabSquirt.esp=1
SexLab STDs.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
trueskyrim.esp=1
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp=1
SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1
DenserGrass.esp=1
Grass_On_Steroids_SFO.esp=1
Grassification_SFO.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
HDT Havok Object.esp=1
dragonslayer.esp=1
TERA Weapons.esp=1
ElinArmorSet.esp=1
ElinRace_TERAcostume_PC_Event_02A.esp=1
FoxMerged.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1
Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp=1
Sekirei.esp=1
SexyBikinis.esp=1
SummerWearUBH.esp=1
SummerWearSA.esp=1
Ezuka's HentaiAclothes.esp=1
DF_T48.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1
SOS Equipable Schlong.esp=1
PuppetMaster.esp=1
SOS - Dawnguard Armors.esp=1
SOS - Dragonborn Armors.esp=1
zzEstrus.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp=1
ShakeIt.esp=1
Player Size Adjuster.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
nem-e5i5's RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1
CharGen Morphs.esp=1
CharGen ECE Morphs.esp=1
EEO Morphs.esp=1
EEO ECE Morphs.esp=1
Extra Scars.esp=1
MikuHairElin.esp=1
numenume Hair.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp=1
Brows.esp=1
ArgonianTeenagerRace.esp=1
BretonTeenagerRace.esp=1
DarkElfTeenagerRace.esp=1
HighElfTeenagerRace.esp=1
KhajiitTeenagerRace.esp=1
ImperialTeenagerRace.esp=1
Lovergirl Race.esp=1
SuccubusRaceLite.esp=1
Matera.esp=1
Babette.esp=1
Clean Invisibility Effects plus Eyes Fix.esp=1
Monli.esp=1
The Ningheim.esp=1
The Orthonian Race V1.0.esp=1
NordTeenagerRace.esp=1
OrcTeenagerRace.esp=1
RedguardTeenagerRace.esp=1
WoodElfTeenagerRace.esp=1
Kawaii followers.esp=1
Companion_Ria.esp=1
Juliette.esp=1
Danya.esp=1
Nanako.esp=1
Kamille.esp=1
ErynielElfV2.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1
ElinRaceVoice.esp=1
ElinRaceIdle.esp=1
elin new body.esp=1
ElinRace - Use Monli custom BBP Body.esp=1
ElinRace Enemy.esp=1
ElinRace NewNPC.esp=1
ElinRace NPC.esp=1
ElinRace Hearthfires Children.esp=1
SK Child Armor Swapper.esp=1
_elin.esp=1
rem.esp=1
Joshen23Y.esp=1
ElinmageFollowersVanilla.esp=1
ElinRace_ApachiiHairFemales_v1.1a.esp=1
ElinRace - ApachiiHair_v1.4.esp=1
ElinRace_ApachiiHair_1-5.esp=1
ElinRace_numenume Hair.esp=1
ElinRace_RenHair.esp=1
ElinRace__NewHair.esp=1
ElinRace__zzNewseaHairs2.esp=1
ElinRace_Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp=1
ElinRace_Fh hairs-by zzjay.esp=1
ElinRace__zzCCCHairs.esp=1
ElinRace__zzSimsHair.esp=1
SummonElinRing.esp=1
AutoSwimsuit.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

 

AMOR

RACES

SEXLABMODS

FLORAOVERHAUL / LANDSCAPE / GRASS

FOLLOWER

 

 

and the Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=0 should be directly behind the HighResTexturePack03.esp=0 in the load order...... it is the best thing for the most patches

if you think about it its plausible

 

just some examples i had mark with colours...mabey this will help you

 

if you got any specific problem have to solve feel free to ask...instead of asking..to sort your whole loadorder...

 

actually look your load order like you have only installed without reading sometimes the required files and..where you have to put the files...i mean boss is a good thing but he dont know the most sexlab mods..so he cant set this mods in the correct load order

 

best regards sheloveme
 

 

[Ghoulz]

I thought mods with core changes like alternate start, SkyUI and mods that are simply tweaks of perks or magic rebalances go way up in the load order.

 

But what about AI and combat mods?

[irid]

Thanks! I haven't crashed yet, and have only just started to move things around in my load order, so I guess I'll post once more when anything else happens.

[Kriros89]

Yeah, it would be great if someone just wrote a full tutorial on which mods to install, and load order. Just the mods we need to make things actually happen, and exclude everything else.