rjn Posted May 2, 2024 Posted May 2, 2024 (edited) Unfortunately for me, a Steam update changed my "only update when I run it" setting and my game was updated to the latest version breaking a lot of my mods. I know I can downgrade, but I decided to go ahead and see what might be done without that. First off, without f4se - no menu mod and no looksmenu. Then no AAF and no animations. That puts a dagger in the heart of some great mods. So what is left? I'll show my revised load order below. "0000","DLC: Ultra High Resolution Texture Pack" "0001","Creation Club: ccSBJFO4003-Grenade" "0002","Creation Club: ccOTMFO4001-Remnants" "0003","Creation Club: ccFSVFO4007-Halloween" "0004","Creation Club: ccBGSFO4116-HeavyFlamer" "0005","Creation Club: ccBGSFO4115-X02" "0006","Creation Club: ccBGSFO4110-WS_Enclave" "0007","Creation Club: ccBGSFO4096-AS_Enclave" "0008","Creation Club: ccBGSFO4046-TesCan" "0009","Creation Club: ccBGSFO4044-HellfirePowerArmor" "0010","DLC: Wasteland Workshop" "0011","DLC: Vault-Tec Workshop" "0012","DLC: Nuka-World" "0013","DLC: Far Harbor" "0014","DLC: Contraptions Workshop" "0015","DLC: Automatron" "0020","Devious Devices 2.0_RC9_Beta2_HotFix" "0021","Homemaker - Expanded Settlements" "0022","TortureDevices" "0024","Armor and Weapon Keywords Community Resource (AWKCR)" "0025","CWSS Redux v" "0026","SkimpyArmorKeywordResource" "0027","Settlement Keywords Expanded v1.60" "0028","Kziitd Fetish Toolset" "0029","CompanionIvy" "0030","Random Encounter Framework" "0043","Daily Life Of Hookers" "0044","Devious_Devices_Fusion_Girl_BodySlide_Conversion_" "0050","Commonwealth Cuts 2.5.1" "0051","CRX" "0053","cVc Dead Wasteland 6 - Core" "0054","cVc Dead Wasteland 6 - DLC1" "0056","High Heels Sound - Fallout 4 Edition" "0057","DickyPinupFusionHHS" "0058","Easy Girl HH FG" "0060","FG - Devious Devices RC" "0061","FO4 Nude Basics v1.07 KP - FUSION GIRL" "0063","Handmade Bullpup" "0064","HN66 EasyGirl-TRS Edit" "0065","HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS" "0066","HN66s TRS - Fusion Girl BodySlide Conversion" "0069","Settlement Objects Expansion Pack" "0072","Place (Fallout4 1.10.163 - latest release)" "0073","Kziitd Fetish Toolset - Bodyslide 1.0 Beta 1" "0074","Kziitd Fetish Toolset - Compatibility Patches 1.0 Beta 2.1" "0075","ZaZOut4" "0078","Outfit Switcher 2.2" "0079","Natural Face Texures 2K All in One" "0080","SettlementOfUnlimitedSize" "0081","VtawWardrobe 9 Main 2K" "0082","Darling Skin - Replacer - Warm" "0083","MiscHairstyle" "0085","Custom Body Texture Addon - Female Wintermute NPCs" "0086","Wintermute - Cybor Companion" "0088","Deviously Cursed Wasteland V" "0089","Scrap Just A Bit More Stuff" "0090","Clean_and_Simple_" "0091","scrappable pump arms no dlc" "0094","Commonwealth Encounter Pack" "0095","ASA 0.2 CBBE PHYSICS" "0096","CompanionIvy_MagAddon" "0097","ASA FG 1.1" "0098","ECF_2.12" "0099","ECF_AJ_Cubemaps_" "0104","Vault Vixen Visuals" "0105","SteelDevices" "0106","RaiderQueens" "0109","Vault Vixen Visuals-misc" "0110","HiPoly Faces REDUX (Fusion Girl Seamless)" "0111","The Eyes of Beauty Fallout Kaleidoscope Edition - All-in-One" "0112","clutter menu manager" "0115","TRS_1.00" "0116","BodyTalk" "0117","FusionGirl" "0119","BodySlide and Outfit Studio -" "0120","ZeX - ZaZ Extended Skeleton" "0121","Start Me Up - Normal Dialogue Prompts - version 6.1" "0122","dd bs" "0123","bs files" I'm using several settlement improvement mods including Homemaker, Clean and Simple and Dead Wasteland. Also I tried running Deviously Cursed Wastelend with both Devious Devices and Kziitd Fetish Toolset, but they don't work yet in the new version. I've setup with a Fusion Girl body and skimpy armor packs and improved faces and skin. I have added two companion mods: Ivy and Wintermute. For other miscellaneous mods I have Outfit Switcher, Random Encounters and Torture Devices. Character appearance and settlement building are well-covered. I am still looking for a "death alternative" mod. Edited June 3, 2024 by rjn updated 7
Questiondeca Posted May 4, 2024 Posted May 4, 2024 F4SE has updated, however any mod with a .dll file that hasn't also updated most likely will not work or cause crashes. 1
rjn Posted May 4, 2024 Author Posted May 4, 2024 From my list above, the mods Place and Settlements of Unlimited Size do not cause any errors but also do not work at all. They rely on dll files so will need to be updated by their authors .
rjn Posted May 31, 2024 Author Posted May 31, 2024 (edited) Now with the latest version of f4se, the Looksmenu beta and using the LL_FourPlay_1_10_984.dll with AAF I'm back to having AAF animations running, which enables more mods in the next gen version. New mods I've added and tested are: AAF 1.61b AAF Violate 1.60 AAF Autonomy Enhanced 2.70 Real Handcuffs 4.14 AAF Prostitution v0.86 Torture Devices 2.21 Atomic Lust AAF VanillaKinkyCreatureAnimations_Themes V210819.0 Savage Cabbage Animation Pack 1.30 FO4 Animations by Leito v 2.1b LooksMenu v 1-7-0 Mod Configuration Menu 1.40b Mutated Lust v 1.4 Sex Attributes 2.7.4 Bound in Public 1.3.3 Have to turn off all the references to Devious Devices in the MCM menus for AAF Violate and Real Handcuffs. Otherwise these mods are all working with the mods I previously listed in the post above. The trick to getting AAF going was to load AAF then remove its LL_FourPlay dll (in the F4SE/Plugins folder and replace it with the newer LLFourPlay_1_10_984.dll file. Also when Real Handcuffs is installed it asks if you want to install LL_FourPlay and you need to uncheck that option to avoid overwriting your newer version. Still some of my favorite mods are blocked because there is no compatible version of Devious Devices yet. Also, Extended Dialog Interface needs updating. Raider Pet would probably work, but I don't play that mod. Edited June 5, 2024 by rjn corrections 2
lightguidste Posted June 1, 2024 Posted June 1, 2024 (edited) 23 hours ago, rjn said: Now with the latest version of f4se, the Looksmenu beta and using the LLFourPlay_1_10_984.dll with AAF I'm back to having AAF animations running, which enables more mods in the next gen version. New mods I've added and tested are: AAF 1.61b AAF Violate 1.60 AAF Autonomy Enhanced 2.70 Real Handcuffs 4.14 AAF Prostitution v0.86 Torture Devices 2.21 Atomic Lust AAF VanillaKinkyCreatureAnimations_Themes V210819.0 Savage Cabbage Animation Pack 1.30 FO4 Animations by Leito v 2.1b LooksMenu v 1-7-0 Mod Configuration Menu 1.40b Mutated Lust v 1.4 Sex Attributes 2.7.4 Bound in Public 1.3.3 Have to turn off all the references to Devious Devices in the MCM menus for AAF Violate and Real Handcuffs. Otherwise these mods are all working with the mods I previously listed in the post above. The trick to getting AAF going was to load AAF then remove its LLFourPlay dll (in the F4SE/Plugins folder and replace it with the newer LLFourPlay_1_10_984.dll file. Also when Real Handcuffs is installed it asks if you want to install LLFourPlay and you need to uncheck that option to avoid overwriting your newer version. Still some of my favorite mods are blocked because there is no compatible version of Devious Devices yet. Also, Extended Dialog Interface needs updating. Raider Pet would probably work, but I don't play that mod. so u are using AAF 1.61B not the latest AAf 171? But thanks for the listing anyways as by a miracle i got aaf working again now to check wich aaf dependent mods are ok 🙂 i am looking if i can repost this in the AAF at 80 % post with the extra line itha tit works so far for me as wel! Edited June 1, 2024 by lightguidste
MarkedStrelok Posted June 2, 2024 Posted June 2, 2024 14 hours ago, lightguidste said: so u are using AAF 1.61B not the latest AAf 171? But thanks for the listing anyways as by a miracle i got aaf working again now to check wich aaf dependent mods are ok 🙂 i am looking if i can repost this in the AAF at 80 % post with the extra line itha tit works so far for me as wel! All the animations work fine for me in version 1.7.1 of AAF. But the character has erection problems in the following animation packages: -Farelle Animations v0.1.2 -RohZima Fallout 4 Sex Animations for AAF v1.40 -50 Shades v1.05 If anyone knows the solution to this, I would be very grateful. I tried the AAF 161b version but the same thing happens with that animation package. I'm missing something... A Blue Pill perhaps?
rjn Posted June 2, 2024 Author Posted June 2, 2024 8 hours ago, MarkedStrelok said: All the animations work fine for me in version 1.7.1 of AAF. But the character has erection problems in the following animation packages: -Farelle Animations v0.1.2 -RohZima Fallout 4 Sex Animations for AAF v1.40 -50 Shades v1.05 If anyone knows the solution to this, I would be very grateful. I tried the AAF 161b version but the same thing happens with that animation package. I'm missing something... A Blue Pill perhaps? Hmm, I haven't noticed this. I'll pay closer attention. According to posts elsewhere supposedly we need Ultimate AAF Patch v2.6.64-1 to get erections working in some animation mods. I don't have any of your listed animation mods installed and I'm running 1.61b of AAF, so you might want to test if this works for you.
rjn Posted June 2, 2024 Author Posted June 2, 2024 23 hours ago, lightguidste said: so u are using AAF 1.61B not the latest AAf 171? But thanks for the listing anyways as by a miracle i got aaf working again now to check wich aaf dependent mods are ok 🙂 i am looking if i can repost this in the AAF at 80 % post with the extra line itha tit works so far for me as wel! I'm glad my post helped you out. Yes, I'm still on 1.61b. I really hate the jumping through hoops setup to get new versions of AAF (or any mod). The old version works and I don't know what new features the new version adds that I might need.
J_Bunny Posted June 3, 2024 Posted June 3, 2024 On 6/2/2024 at 2:35 AM, MarkedStrelok said: All the animations work fine for me in version 1.7.1 of AAF. But the character has erection problems in the following animation packages: -Farelle Animations v0.1.2 -RohZima Fallout 4 Sex Animations for AAF v1.40 -50 Shades v1.05 If anyone knows the solution to this, I would be very grateful. I tried the AAF 161b version but the same thing happens with that animation package. I'm missing something... A Blue Pill perhaps? Can I ask for your AFF 171 archive? It's really hard to find it (((
FatCat1234 Posted June 4, 2024 Posted June 4, 2024 (edited) On 5/31/2024 at 8:00 AM, rjn said: The trick to getting AAF going was to load AAF then remove its LLFourPlay dll (in the F4SE/Plugins folder and replace it with the newer LLFourPlay_1_10_984.dll file. Apologies if this is a *REALLY* dumb question, but where do we get the new LL_FourPlay_1_10_984.dll file from (what mod / package / etc. has it)? I tried using (unsuccessfully) AAF 1.61b, which contains LL_FourPlay_1_10_163.dll. So, it would it be easy enough to replace it, but no idea where to get the newer file from. Going to the Discord site for AAF has no mention of anything available for next-gen yet. Admittedly, I didn't dowload four-play, as it appears that hasn't been recently updated, nor the community patch. Thanks in advance for helping me figure this out. UPDATE: Resolved the issue for finding the file, LL_FourPlay_1_10_984.dll. OP had the first underscore missing from the file name (incorrect: LLFourPlay_1_10_984.dll) so searching came up empty. Link to the "hot fix" for the community patch is here: Four Play Dev/Test/Beta Next Gen (1.10.984) Community Plugin Fix. Hope that helps other folks looking for the file. And thank you to rjn for your post! Edited June 4, 2024 by FatCat1234
rjn Posted June 4, 2024 Author Posted June 4, 2024 (edited) I think if more people get a working AAF in the Next Gen version of the game, modders may be encouraged to update their dll files. Also there is new content to be played in the updated version as well. I'm currently testing Devious Devices RC9Beta2, Kziitd Fetish Toolset 1.0 Beta 2 , RC Cursed DD Enchantings and DDBench unlocker. The only thing I've noted so far is that I had to deactivate the HHSound addin in the DD RC9 pack. So far - so good: I built the devices in Bodyslide with no problems (both DD and Kziitd). The devices fit my Fusion Girl body very well and my companion also (Ivy). And are equipped without any errors or warnings. The Cursed DD Enchanting mod works - equipping items when its traps are triggered. Keys unlock devices properly. Time locks work as expected. Struggle animations were also working as was the DD bench unlocker mod. (Summary: This combination of mods is working as intended. The only thing missing is no high heels sound, but that is a very minor issue.) Edited June 4, 2024 by rjn updated
HerbTarlac Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 (edited) AAF is at 80% for me. It does not detect LooksMenu. Anybody got a tip for what I may have missed I'm going through the setup and install steps for the 3rd or 4th time. I either missed something that can only be fixed with a ground zero re-install or I'm misunderstanding something. Curious if anybody else had the same issue and what worked for them. I am running NG+ and AAF 171Beta. I'm a recent console convert so don't be too hard on me. TIA! Edit: I'm also running the LooksMenu NG+ update from their Patreon page. Edited June 5, 2024 by HerbTarlac
MarkedStrelok Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 On 6/2/2024 at 6:19 AM, rjn said: Hmm, I haven't noticed this. I'll pay closer attention. According to posts elsewhere supposedly we need Ultimate AAF Patch v2.6.64-1 to get erections working in some animation mods. I don't have any of your listed animation mods installed and I'm running 1.61b of AAF, so you might want to test if this works for you. Yes, in the other animation packages they work with UAP installed, but those packages I mentioned above do not work with UAP.
MarkedStrelok Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 On 6/3/2024 at 6:30 PM, J_Bunny said: Can I ask for your AFF 171 archive? It's really hard to find it ((( Advanced Animation Framework (AAF) Version 171-0, by Dagoba_king on Discord. You have to read the rules and press the nuclear option emoticon for the other sections to appear
rjn Posted June 5, 2024 Author Posted June 5, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, HerbTarlac said: AAF is at 80% for me. It does not detect LooksMenu. Anybody got a tip for what I may have missed I'm going through the setup and install steps for the 3rd or 4th time. I either missed something that can only be fixed with a ground zero re-install or I'm misunderstanding something. Curious if anybody else had the same issue and what worked for them. I am running NG+ and AAF 171Beta. I'm a recent console convert so don't be too hard on me. TIA! Edit: I'm also running the LooksMenu NG+ update from their Patreon page. Is LooksMenu working for you in-game? You don't mention F4SE - it needs to be f4se_1_10_984.dll in your game directory. My LooksMenu version (That works with this f4se) is 1-7-0. Edited June 5, 2024 by rjn spelling
rjn Posted June 6, 2024 Author Posted June 6, 2024 As is to be expected, the mod: OCBPC-0.3-ZeX4 does not work due to its dependence on a dll file (cbp.dll). So while I have been trying various methods to get Fusion Girl body physics to work, I don't think it's possible without an updated cbp.dll file.
rjn Posted June 7, 2024 Author Posted June 7, 2024 New versions (nex gen) for Extended Dialog Interface, Address Library, and Fallout 4 High Heels System are available on Nexus. I'm trying them out now. Potentially makes the mods: Just Business, C5Kev's and Dicky's high heels mods and DX Fashion Fetish mods usable again.
SynTech Posted June 8, 2024 Posted June 8, 2024 Funny, I got CBBE 3BBB to run with next gen patch. It does not work with Fusion Body. Do I have to install more than Fusion Body, ZeX - ZaZ Extended Skeleton, BodySlide, OCBP or OCPBC and MTM 3B OCBP - OCBPC Physics and Collision Preset?
rjn Posted June 8, 2024 Author Posted June 8, 2024 1 hour ago, SynTech said: Funny, I got CBBE 3BBB to run with next gen patch. It does not work with Fusion Body. Do I have to install more than Fusion Body, ZeX - ZaZ Extended Skeleton, BodySlide, OCBP or OCPBC and MTM 3B OCBP - OCBPC Physics and Collision Preset? No, if the cbp.dll file was updated then those would be the exact mods you would need. The CBBE 3BBB mod also requires the CBPC mod which relies on an outdated version of cbp.dll.
SynTech Posted June 8, 2024 Posted June 8, 2024 27 minutes ago, rjn said: No, if the cbp.dll file was updated then those would be the exact mods you would need. The CBBE 3BBB mod also requires the CBPC mod which relies on an outdated version of cbp.dll. Yes, CBBE 3BBB works for me with next gen update. My breasts and bottom are jiggling...
rjn Posted June 8, 2024 Author Posted June 8, 2024 3 hours ago, SynTech said: Yes, CBBE 3BBB works for me with next gen update. My breasts and bottom are jiggling... Aha, after looking over the different requirements for the two physics mods it appears that the CBBE scheme is possibly using Faster HDT and a new version of FSMP which is recent enough (May 29) to be working with the next gen Fallout 4. I know there is no current version of HDT for a Fusion Girl body. So, it means there may be two approaches to fixing thing for FG bodies 1) a new cbp.dll or 2) someone adapts HDT for it. 1
Pornstache Pete Posted June 8, 2024 Posted June 8, 2024 I was able to successfully start a new game with this MO2 mod order: Spoiler And with this plugin order: Spoiler Ultimate AAF Patch does not work; it crashes when starting a new game. Disabling it in MO2 fixes the crash. I think this is because Buffout 4 is missing, and confirming the reason for the crash would require crash logs from Buffout 4 anyway. Other mods are disabled as part of that process of narrowing down the crash. Atomic Muscle seems to be broken: Spoiler The game still uses the vanilla male mesh and texture, and poor Nate has not taken his little blue pills. This could be because UAP is missing. It could also be that I did not install Atomic Muscle correctly. Hard to say. Otherwise, everything seems to be functioning correctly.
SynTech Posted June 9, 2024 Posted June 9, 2024 18 hours ago, rjn said: Aha, after looking over the different requirements for the two physics mods it appears that the CBBE scheme is possibly using Faster HDT and a new version of FSMP which is recent enough (May 29) to be working with the next gen Fallout 4. I know there is no current version of HDT for a Fusion Girl body. So, it means there may be two approaches to fixing thing for FG bodies 1) a new cbp.dll or 2) someone adapts HDT for it. Hey, with these download it works 1
rjn Posted June 9, 2024 Author Posted June 9, 2024 3 hours ago, SynTech said: Hey, with these download it works That's great! Thanks. I'll definitely be using that. The body physics in Fallout 4 (even when working at their best) always seem to pale in comparison to Skyrim. By now my FO4 game is back to what I normally played before the update. I guess it didn't really take that long.
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