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No one can answer my question, screenshots from this author are sent in 1920x1080 quality so it's not 4k or anything, I only know that the skin mod is 8k because I saw a similar skin structure on Nexus, but I'm still not sure able to achieve such expressive quality and smoothness of the skin, what might be needed? I have light mods, I tried a few ENBs, nothing helps, the game still looks the same as the original, only it has better shadows, reflections, etc.

Unfortunately, the author of the photo does not want to share what mods he has, even though he does not expect any presets of his own, etc.

Is there anyone who can help me modify Fallout to the point where I can get photos like this?
I was looking for guides and threads about modding Fallout to take sexy photos, but I didn't find anything, much less a comprehensive answer to my questions.

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Posted (edited)

I'm not sure what effect you're trying to match (partly because I'm very visually impaired), but I do know that light mods aren't enough for whatever you're trying to do. You also need to manipulate time of day and weather if you're outside or light intensity if you're inside.

 

As this is an out door image, the weather, time of day and direction of sunlight are the main effects. In addition, a good depth of field effect which controls the degree of sharpness, bloom and contrast is likewise important and is clearly part of what was used for that image.

 

I do not use ENBs, but I do use weather and sunlight for everything.  For instance, here's a 1080p film I made yesterday in which you'll see how I use weather and all that to control what I think you're trying to do.

 

 

Notice how very different each scene looks depending on weather, time of day and whether I'm using depth of field or not.

 

For the depth of field effects I use my "Karna's Color Changers" mod (available on Nexus). I don't use ENBs, as I said.

 

For the time of day I use the console command: "set time of day to nn" where nn is any number 0 to 23

 

For the weather I use console commands. For instance, two of the weathers I used in that film were:

 

[force weather Far Harbor Clear Fast]
fw 3045f6f

 

[force weather Far Harbor Virtual01]
fw 3023a97

 

A while back I used FO4Edit to search all the available weathers in Fallout 4 and made batch files to call them up at will. So for instance, I have a text file called "fwclearfast.txt"

 

Inside that file I have two lines:

;force weather Far Harbor Clear Fast
fw 3045f6f

 

When I want clear fast (one of my favorite weathers), I simply type in game:  bat fwclearfast

 

In summary, you took the first step by looking for and installing light mods. And you installed a skin texture you like. But you still need to control time of day, weather and light intensity as well as image adapter settings like depth of field, bloom, sharpness, contrast, etc.

 

For reference, in the above film I was using FSM 8k Skin textures for the body with Fuse00 Natural 2k Face textures.
 

Edited by Karna5
Posted
22 minutes ago, Karna5 said:

I'm not sure what effect you're trying to match (partly because I'm very visually impaired), but I do know that light mods aren't enough for whatever you're trying to do. You also need to manipulate time of day and weather if you're outside or light intensity if you're inside.

 

As this is an out door image, the weather, time of day and direction of sunlight are the main effects. In addition, a good depth of field effect which controls the degree of sharpness, bloom and contrast is likewise important and is clearly part of what was used for that image.

 

I do not use ENBs, but I do use weather and sunlight for everything.  For instance, here's a 1080p film I made yesterday in which you'll see how I use weather and all that to control what I think you're trying to do.

 

 

Notice how very different each scene looks depending on weather, time of day and whether I'm using depth of field or not.

 

For the depth of field effects I use my "Karna's Color Changers" mod (available on Nexus). I don't use ENBs, as I said.

 

For the time of day I use the console command: "set time of day to nn" where nn is any number 0 to 23

 

For the weather I use console commands. For instance, two of the weathers I used in that film were:

 

[force weather Far Harbor Clear Fast]
fw 3045f6f

 

[force weather Far Harbor Virtual01]
fw 3023a97

 

A while back I used FO4Edit to search all the available weathers in Fallout 4 and made batch files to call them up at will. So for instance, I have a text file called "fwclearfast.txt"

 

Inside that file I have two lines:

;force weather Far Harbor Clear Fast
fw 3045f6f

 

When I want clear fast (one of my favorite weathers), I simply type in game:  bat fwclearfast

 

In summary, you took the first step by looking for and installing light mods. And you installed a skin texture you like. But you still need to control time of day, weather and light intensity as well as image adapter settings like depth of field, bloom, sharpness, contrast, etc.

 

For reference, in the above film I was using FSM 8k Skin textures for the body with Fuse00 Natural 2k Face textures.
 

 

so I see that despite 8k you still don't achieve this great effect, maybe you're right that it has a big impact on light, deep sharpness, etc. but let me share my photo

 

here there is deep sharpness, the time is adjusted to make it bright, there is light ENB with shadows, reflections, etc., it is possible that there is artificial additional light, I don't remember anymore, but the skin still looks just not like his

 

the second photo is the new ENB, additionally it's raining, the same skin mod and still doesn't have the great effect as this guy's

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I honestly don't know what you're saying you don't have in your first image since the difference between your first image in the post right above this and the original post is just your choice of skin texture, light, image space adapter settings, etc.

 

However, that second image where you are in what you said is rain has a lot wrong with it which you can fix easily.

 

1. It looks like you're letting the game engine apply character light (also known as RIM light) to your skin. You need to disable that so that the only light on the skin is external.

 

The console command to do that is:  cl off

 

I have a text file in my data directory called "autoexecstuff.txt" in which I have the following lines:

sucsm 0.5
cl off
 

The first line is to have a slow and controlled free camera for when i use "tfc" while the second line is to disable RIM light.

 

Then in the [user]\Documents\My Games\Fallout4 directory I put the following line into my Fallout4.ini file in the [General] category:

sStartingConsoleCommand="bat autoexecstuff"

 

Also, I don't know if it's the skin texture you're using or the game settings, but that second image is incredibly blurry and undetailed. I also don't know if you have your ENB trying to apply antialiasing which can further blur your character.

 

I use only FXAA antialiasing (anything else blurs your character and makes it smoother and less detailed).

 

You also need to make sure your shadow settings and everything are as high as possible.

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Post script: Since it sounds like you didn't listen to what I said was the reason of the film (to show that each scene looks very different based on light type and that the skin in each setting looks very different), I'll use a couple of static images to demonstrate it. Each image uses the same skin texture.

 

Here's a dusk/dawn time of day with clear fast lighting:

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And here's an indoor shot with very dark settings and just on the border of light:

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And here is in rain at night:

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I noticed that your rain image didn't even show rain drops, so it implies you do not have all your graphical configuration settings at maximum. The image looked like low or medium settings which can never achieve maximum potential.

 

Finally, the skin texture you use and how dark or pale you set the skin makes a big difference. For instance, I avoid all skin textures which look too smooth, while you seem to like unrealistic and unblemished skin. That's fine. It's a PC game, and taste varies. But if you want to exactly match the porcelain non-human look of the original post, then you'll need to make sure you use the same skin texture and the same skin color. I usually use the "Pinku" color form LooksMenu Custom Compendium.

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I listened to and watched the movie, I play on ultra settings, except for the leftover weapons or whatever it's called, because it causes the game to crash on RTX graphics cards, it's possible that ENB changed something in the last photo, that's why the textures look like this, Fallout actually has a maximum of 5 bodies to choose from and I guess I have the same thing as the guy from the first photo, I tried others and only this 8k model has a similar structure to it, in addition, I zoom in on photos and despite having a photo in 1080p, i.e. 1920x1080, it has much better quality skin than me, and his photos on steam weigh the same as mine

It's all strange, actually, because when modding Skyrim, people don't have to do that much to get a great effect, Fallout is terribly reluctant in this topic, I haven't really seen more users on Steam who have such good screenshots of Fallout, apart from another person but she plays 2k and uses a lot of filters even outside the game

Posted (edited)

Keep in mind, Miziu, that 8k doesn't mean much in itself in Fallout 4. There are many 8k skin textures which are tremendously different in appearance.

 

Of the 8k skin textures I've used over the years are:

- 8k Fusion Girl (native)

- 8k Realistic Skin Textures by TyperTM

- 8k FSM Skin Textures (many variations)

- 8k Radiation Queen Textures by FireApple

 

There are also several I don't use because they have the less realistic look, beautiful in its own way, but not human. I won't list them all as I avoid them, but I'm sure you've seen them advertised on Nexus, often as Skyrim ports.

 

There's a lot of nuance to skin textures, and resolution itself is next to meaningless.

 

Edited by Karna5
Posted
1 hour ago, Miziu9898 said:

I have 8k Realistic Skin Textures by TyperTM

I like that one. This said, the picture you linked in the original post looks like one of those "fair skin" type ports from skyrim, not sure which of them, but I don't think it's one of the realistic looking skins. So you may want to play around trying the different skin textures until you find one more suited to your taste.

 

Sorry I can't guess exactly which skin that picture is since I didn't try those. I don't think it's an obi skin either (obi has a few porcelein style variations).

 

So in your place I'd start with trying a fair skin texture and then maybe use Looksmenu Compendium to try Pinku skin color with it as the original post's picture seems to have a slightly pink color to it.

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted (edited)

Yeah pretty much what Karna said. Fallout 4 has some AMAZING lighting, even on vanilla, which really brings out the next gen quality, but even on the xbox one, Fallout 4 has terrible shadows. Those shadows are what make people look like ps2 graphics, no lie.

Me, I use this: FSM Body Textures Extreme (7.28GB)

Yes, you gotta get the HIGHEST option. I always choose a sunny day, and if the weather keeps changing, I hit ~ and type: Set gamehour to 12

That will make it 12pm, I keep hitting that until I get a sunny day. :)

Which is actually a funny story, because all of my nexus picture virtually look like they come from a sunny day twilight zone, as every picture kinda looks the same. I always wondered if any of the nexus users noticed that...

I also use FO4 Photo Mode

and Screenarcher

This allows me to move the camera and pose the body. However note that as for skin, enbs are everything, I'm using l00pings' PRC X - PhotoRealistic Commonwealth 10 - Legacy edition 'Matrix edition'

You'll instantly recognize that when the enb is off, skin looks completely different than when its on I also had to turn the hue using NAC - Natural and Atmospheric Commonwealth at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community (nexusmods.com)

I use this version, not L00ping's newer NAC mod. I bump the Blue hue up more to make the game look more realistic, and to get rid of that damn hideous green tint.

Skin tone also impacts the photo, and what you would need to do to get the skin to look good. Here, Mileena is facing the light, which activates the shine across her skin. And so I have to use photo mode and screenarcher to move the body toward the light source.

Her skin is taner, which is always perfect for screen arching. Paler skin sometimes can give me too much shine, and I have to turn the player a tad bit away form the light. As for darker skin tones, you'd be surprised how that looks amazing in the light, as the skin doesn't get too bright, and the light brings out the tones.

You also notice that I moved the camera extremely close to the body and to the parts I want. This gives a quality finish, which makes it look like I'm doing more work than what I'm actually doing.

 

And of course you use your face mods, I forgot which ones I'm using, but if you really want to know, just let me know, and I'll see if I can't figure out which ones I'm using. I play on High settings, sometimes medium shadows. Personally I do not recommend ever playing a game on Ultra, as that will eventually kill your graphics card. This is because it will impact everything else, and mount up the pressure on your computer, but to each their own honky I guess.

I also agree with Karna, fair skin is terrible in my opinion for screenshooting, unless you're trying to recreate anime, then its cool and unique. But it makes everybody just look unrealistic.

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Edited by Nevadathehighelf
Posted
24 minutes ago, Nevadathehighelf said:

 

That's so cool and amazing you use FSM body textures. It's what I use, but your skin looks so much different than mine which just goes to emphasize and corroborate that lighting makes a ton of difference in how skin looks in game :) Your characters are always beautiful, of course, my friend :)

Posted (edited)

@Karna5

Thank you so much pal!

Let me know if you want any presets, ans I have Jill Valentine, afa wong, and many others back when I was subscribed to Laketko ;) that dude literally rips assets from other games, and so his faces will always look overtly realistic

Yeah enbs make a world of difference, I also increase the saturation, there's just something about that orange that makes pictures more appealing.

 

Also I apologize for keeping my nexus posts without a comment section. I'd love to hear from people who appreciate my feet, but I just got tired of the morons who kept trolling my section, I had to block and ban so many :(

now I just keep commentd turned off.

loverslab is more human though

Edited by Nevadathehighelf
Posted
8 hours ago, Nevadathehighelf said:

I also increase the saturation, there's just something about that orange that makes pictures more appealing.

I did notice that. :)  I also increase my saturation by 20% using "Nuclear Colors" mod by some weirdo called Karna5, haha. From there I do additional color, sharpness, contrast, bloom, etc. manipulation not only with weathers and time of day but with "Karna's Color Changers" mod by that same weirdo! :)

 

Low saturation can look good sometimes, but I usually prefer a little extra to make the shapes pop out.

 

Thanks for the offers on the presets, though I'm happy enough just seeing them in your photos :)

Posted
3 hours ago, Nevadathehighelf said:

@Karna5

Lol! I too use my own mods! XD

what enb do you use? I wish my Skyrim looked that realistic, but i cant part with that aweskme snowfall weathers enb :)

I don't use ENBs :) I've never used any ENBs :) I just use Karna's Nuclear Colors, Karna's Color Changers, time of day manipulation and weather. I also made a few of my own weathers. For instance, in the following film starting around one minute nine seconds is one of the weathers I made with FO4Edit. You may notice the way the screen waves, and it's got clear skies but lightning, and it's got strong contrast and no bloom, that's a custom weather I call redfastfogwave *laughs*

 

Posted (edited)

That's pretty amazing stuff, everything, the fact you dont use an enb, the fact you make your own weathers, to the fact that your content is virtually a work of art, featuring what I'd even call Dali Salvador symbolism.

It's pretty unqiue to see.

Me I just got these o'l feet here 🤣😫

Edited by Nevadathehighelf

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