taylormatthew88 Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 hello ill just get to the point i have near 50 hours of play time and before this problem began i can describe what i did before it became a problem. I had been looking for cm partners to download since none were what i wanted to get i used a mod char gen, it was a amulet to change my appearance and race to create full actor copys and removing all the items for those characters but i thought the quest items would be a problem so i downloaded a mod to allow me to drop the quest items since then its been a problem but idk if it was just that mod but i had a few troubles but been progressively working to fix it to save the progress i made. So that sums up what i did so now every time i enter the New Sheoth Palace it crashes i got a got minute or less before i crashes Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 CM Partners.esm 02 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 03 Toaster Says Share v3.esm 04 Lattamerv3.esm 05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 06 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34] 07 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.4.0] 08 personality_idles4_nopc.esp 09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0A Knights.esp 0B DLCHorseArmor.esp 0C DLCVileLair.esp 0D DLCSpellTomes.esp 0E DLCOrrery.esp 0F DLCThievesDen.esp 10 DLCFrostcrag.esp 11 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 12 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 13 Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.21] 14 Loading Screens - Vanilla No Text.esp 15 Container Menu Support.esp 16 My Voice Extender.esp 17 ElzMoreVoice-For Companion.esp 18 MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 19 Arena No Raiment.esp 1A VipCxj_AirSystem.esp 1B VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 1C VipCxj_HairEyeSet.esp 1D SSS.esp 1E DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp 1F TheKillingMoon.esp 20 ActorsInMadness.esp 21 actors_in_charge.esp 22 Breathing Idle Animations.esp 23 CM Partners.esp 24 KT_CustomRaceFix.esp 25 Viera-v3.esp 26 Synx.esp 27 L'Nobody.esp 28 Sharingan and Uchiha Clan.esp 29 Rinnegan.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Telekinetic Mastery.esp 2A AinmhiRace.esp 2B InariRace.esp 2C Telekinetic Mastery.esp [Version 2] 2D Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp 2E CM Pym.esp 2F CM Partner Isabell.esp 30 CM Partner Sandra.esp 31 CM Partner Franziska.esp 32 CM_Chris.esp 33 Tamara.esp 34 DAGolden Saint.esp 35 DATalitha.esp 36 CM Partner Liana.esp 37 SoulGoddness.esp 38 WayshrineMapMarkers.esp 39 TJBVitharnBase.esp 3A NewSheothManor.esp 3B ShiveringTreehouses.esp 3C Highcross House.esp [Version 1.1] 3D The Retreat-AN compatible.esp 3E CRPalace.esp 3F Hale Housing.esp 40 Dawnspire Manor COBL.esp 41 CRDesolateBeta2.esp 42 Split Expansion.esp 43 TML_InfiniteCharges.esp 44 Knights_Fix.esp 45 CharGenAmulet.esp 46 OblivionHackBooks.esp 47 Better Sheogorath.esp 48 SI Defending The Realm.esp 49 shiveringislesdoorusable.esp 4A Carry all you want-5118.esp 4B SI playable armors.esp 4C Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp 4D Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp 4E No Quest Items.esp 4F Spell Delete.esp 50 EVE_KhajiitFix.esp 51 EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp 52 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp 53 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp 54 Hiyoko_Store.esp 55 Romuska Fantasy Store.esp 56 Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp 57 Fall Hair Wig Shop - EV.esp 58 MidasSpells.esp 59 FinalFantasy10BrotherhoodswordNEW.esp 5A Dalls_Jyggylag.esp 5B Jedi LightSabers with Sound.esp 5C 2masamune.esp 5D AngelslayerEN.esp 5E bustersword.esp 5F 00Ice set.esp 60 Aion Polaris Staff.esp 61 New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp 62 Siegfrieds Soul Calibur.esp 63 Scarbard.esp 64 Warglaive v2 - EV.esp 65 00Dragonswing_2.esp 66 Heretic Reavers.esp 67 Yamato COMPLETED.esp 68 SoulCalibur2h.esp 69 SoulCalibur1h.esp 6A NexonsArmoryENG.esp 6B Light Swords.esp 6C 00CrimsonWings.esp 6D slayersword.esp 6E Wrathful Gladiators Greatsword.esp 6F SathixClaymoreV1.esp 70 DMC4Weapons.esp 71 DMCWeapons.esp [Version 1.3] 72 SoulEdge's.esp 73 DMC4 Nero Clothes.esp 74 DMC4 Dante-Vergil.esp 75 FLY_Weapons.esp 76 Wings.esp 77 1SB_NightWeaveOutfit.esp 78 UFF HS Amazon Armor.esp 79 ares.esp 7A LegendaryWeapons&Armor_2ch.esp 7B BlackRoseWitch.esp 7C Elisyum.esp 7D LienNeville.esp 7E MakotoOutfit.esp 7F BlessedMageKnightDress.esp 80 NoelCosplay.esp 81 FF00_Ladies Equipment.esp 82 Gloria Armor.esp 83 Diva.esp 84 Risty's Armor.esp 85 BloodRayne.esp 86 AC2 Revisited HGEC.esp 87 Dread Knight Armor Addon.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Dread Knight Armor.esp 88 Sexy Mandarin Dress.esp 89 Pirates Outfits.esp 8A Witch LongDress.esp 8B Sexy Shirt.esp 8C Mandorla.esp 8D Room Wear.esp 8E Sexy Killer.esp 8F 1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp 90 Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp 91 Dread Knight Armor.esp 92 DragonKnightArmor0.9.esp 93 Tyrael Armor.esp 94 RANs_tL-YAMI.esp 95 Elwing.esp 96 Dynasty.esp 97 KitRae Exotic Dual Remake.esp 98 Lich King's Helm v1_1.esp 99 AncientGuardianRobe.esp 9A TGND_EY_Vampirehunter.esp 9B DarthRevan.esp 9C Hentai DarkSisterhoodArmor.esp 9D HentaiChinaDress.esp 9E Underworld Armor.esp 9F FWAD.esp A0 Frill Short Dress and Halloween Backpack.esp A1 JP Dress.esp A2 JG Elven.esp A3 Wings of Tyrael.esp A4 Plate of the Shadow.esp A5 TGND - Kogane's Ranger Armor.esp A6 HGECKoganeHuntressOutfitDV.esp A7 CuteHalloweenCostume.esp A8 Dynasty Recolor.esp A9 IndigoArmor.esp AA 1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp AB Lambda-11.esp AC MODAssassinsCreed2_Revisited.esp AD Schwertleite Armor.esp AE Drake Knight Armor and Weapons v1.0.esp AF Hentai_Juliet_Uniform.esp B0 UFF Ryk Swimwear Collection.esp B1 00Sciath.esp B2 00magic shields.esp B3 MH Papimeru Armor for BUv2.esp B4 RANs LQH-090419.esp B5 adelina.esp B6 FF00_Clothes.esp B7 ISbrandSwords.esp B8 Notused_Leather.esp B9 NeoDarkarmor.esp BA ZealotF.esp BB Emperor_F.esp BC Dwavenremodel.esp BD Diabloarmor2.esp BE China armor.esp BF Nekoarmor.esp C0 TERAequipment.esp C1 Alluring Wine Bottles.esp C2 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] C3 Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0] C4 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp C5 Better Bell Sounds.esp C6 OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp C7 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] C8 Symphony of Violence.esp C9 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] ----> Delinquent MASTER: All Natural.esp CA All Natural.esp [Version 1.34] CB All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34] CC All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34] CD Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp CE Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp CF Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp D0 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp D1 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp D2 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] D3 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4] D4 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4] D5 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] D6 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] D7 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.4] D8 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1] D9 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] DA xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3] DB xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] DC xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2] DD xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] DE XulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1] DF xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] E0 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8] E1 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5] E2 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.2] E3 xulPantherRiver.esp E4 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] E5 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2] E6 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5] E7 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] E8 xulTheHeath.esp E9 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] EA xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.3] EB xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.1] EC xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.0] ED xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3] EE xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] EF Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 5.3.0] F0 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Panther River patch.esp [Version 1.4] F1 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 5.3.0] F2 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 1.3] F3 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 1.3] F4 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 1.4] F5 Better Cities .esp F6 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.4.0] F7 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.4.0] F8 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Yes i know i have a problem lol i love mods great mods should be used, but this was nearing my final stage of truely completing the game atleast to me i wanted to have a few more people to make and what not but there it is. if u need more information i can answer any question, and plz no being a jerk calling me a nub if i screwed up just new to modding so ill tae any assistance i can get thanks to all who read this and try to assist in helping me fix this.
fejeena Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Your load order is a mess Even your DLCs are not in the correct order. Load order: Use BOOS http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/20516/ Run BOSS, then sort the Mods BOSS did not sort manually (clothes Mods to sorted clothes Mods, Quest Mods to sorted quest Mods, .....Sort them in about alphabetically) Then you have 3 missimg master files 1. Rinnegan.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Telekinetic Mastery.esp. Rinnegan.esp must be under Telekinetic Mastery.esp 2. Dread Knight Armor Addon.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Dread Knight Armor.esp. Dread Knight Armor Addon.esp must be under Dread Knight Armor.esp 3. Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] ----> Delinquent MASTER: All Natural.esp. Immersive Interiors.esp must be under All Natural.esp After using BOSS it will be fixed.
Poontank Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 Some other thoughts: You might consider installing the unofficial patch mods and getting rid of the 'KT Custom Race Fix'. Such a fix is included in the UOP, together with a lot of other handy corrections. Now that's quite a lot of mods you are using! Many of them are only adding some pieces of equipment. These are candidates to get merged into few single plugins to relieve your load order. Get the utility 'TES4Gecko', and David Brasher's tutorial on how to use it from here. I'm not sure if 'All Natural' and some of Max Tael's mods can be run together. Take a look at the mods' readmes about possible incompatibilities. And as far as I know 'Midas Spells' should be placed quite low in the load order (that's where I have it at least). See where BOSS is placing it. Lastly: Such a mod to change race, birthsign and class was the first thing I ever installed... Later on I learned that the console commands showracemenu, showbirthsignmenu and showclassmenu serve the same purpose. Just don't click on the 'Done' button after tweaking your character as this will mess up the stats. Instead save the game to a new slot (you need to activate the console to be able to save) and immediately reload this save. Same goes for the 'Spell Delete' mod. It's not really necessary because the console command player.removespell <spell ID> can be used for this end. To find out spell IDs you could be using the multi-purpose tool mod 'RefScope'. That is a mod which comes in handy for many things. By using the 'RefScope On Self' spell (or the combination of RefScope hotkey + casting key) you can find out any of your spells' ID to insert into that console command.
taylormatthew88 Posted October 27, 2013 Author Posted October 27, 2013 Ok i have implemented both of your ideas and the only thing i cant figure out now is when u launch the game with OBSE half way to the main menu when is has the Oblivion trade mark blah blah blah introduction fades away a bit and freezes havent made it any further then that so far even launching it with the normal exe has the same out come
fejeena Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 Have you sort the Mods BOSS did not sort manually ? Have you checked your new load order if you have missing master files? Have created a new bashed patch?
Poontank Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 Yes, the game freezing on startup is a surefire sign for one (or more) missing master file(s). Wrye Bash should indicate such a plugin with a missing master by displaying its checkbox in red. Magenta, actually.
taylormatthew88 Posted October 27, 2013 Author Posted October 27, 2013 ok i ran the Boss program it did its thing now i see the new load order it created. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm ----> Delinquent MASTER: Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34] 03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 04 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.4.0] 05 CM Partners.esm 06 Toaster Says Share v3.esm 07 Lattamerv3.esm 08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.4] 09 UOPS Additional Changes.esp 0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.2] 0C USIPS Additional Changes.esp 0D Better Cities .esp 0E Loading Screens - Vanilla No Text.esp 0F Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp 10 Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp 11 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 12 All Natural.esp [Version 1.34] 13 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34] 14 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] 15 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp 16 Better Bell Sounds.esp 17 Symphony of Violence.esp 18 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp 19 ElzMoreVoice-For Companion.esp 1A Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] 1B OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp 1C All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34] 1D CharGenAmulet.esp 1E My Voice Extender.esp 1F personality_idles4_nopc.esp 20 shiveringislesdoorusable.esp 21 VipCxj_AirSystem.esp 22 Spell Delete.esp 23 WayshrineMapMarkers.esp 24 DLCHorseArmor.esp 25 DLCOrrery.esp 26 DLCVileLair.esp 27 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 28 DLCSpellTomes.esp 29 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp 2A MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 2B VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 2C 1SB_NightWeaveOutfit.esp 2D 1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp 2E 2masamune.esp 2F adelina.esp 30 AngelslayerEN.esp 31 MODAssassinsCreed2_Revisited.esp 32 AC2 Revisited HGEC.esp 33 BlessedMageKnightDress.esp 34 bustersword.esp 35 DarthRevan.esp 36 Diabloarmor2.esp 37 DMCWeapons.esp [Version 1.3] 38 Drake Knight Armor and Weapons v1.0.esp 39 Dread Knight Armor Addon.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Dread Knight Armor.esp 3A DragonKnightArmor0.9.esp 3B Dread Knight Armor.esp 3C Dynasty.esp 3D Elwing.esp 3E FF00_Clothes.esp 3F FinalFantasy10BrotherhoodswordNEW.esp 40 HentaiChinaDress.esp 41 Hentai DarkSisterhoodArmor.esp 42 Hiyoko_Store.esp 43 Heretic Reavers.esp 44 Jedi LightSabers with Sound.esp 45 JG Elven.esp 46 KitRae Exotic Dual Remake.esp 47 MakotoOutfit.esp 48 New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp 49 NexonsArmoryENG.esp 4A Plate of the Shadow.esp 4B Schwertleite Armor.esp 4C Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp 4D slayersword.esp 4E SoulCalibur1h.esp 4F SoulCalibur2h.esp 50 Tyrael Armor.esp 51 Underworld Armor.esp 52 1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp 53 BlackRoseWitch.esp 54 CuteHalloweenCostume.esp 55 Diva.esp 56 DMC4 Nero Clothes.esp 57 Dwavenremodel.esp 58 FWAD.esp 59 Hentai_Juliet_Uniform.esp 5A IndigoArmor.esp 5B NoelCosplay.esp 5C Notused_Leather.esp 5D Sexy Mandarin Dress.esp 5E TGND_EY_Vampirehunter.esp 5F TGND - Kogane's Ranger Armor.esp 60 UFF HS Amazon Armor.esp 61 Gloria Armor.esp 62 DLCThievesDen.esp 63 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 64 Alluring Wine Bottles.esp 65 Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.21] 66 Highcross House.esp [Version 1.1] 67 Hale Housing.esp 68 Fall Hair Wig Shop - EV.esp 69 NewSheothManor.esp 6A Romuska Fantasy Store.esp 6B ShiveringTreehouses.esp 6C SI Defending The Realm.esp 6D SoulGoddness.esp 6E The Retreat-AN compatible.esp 6F Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp 70 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 71 DLCFrostcrag.esp 72 Knights.esp 73 EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp 74 Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0] 75 Split Expansion.esp 76 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] 77 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 78 xulTheHeath.esp 79 XulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1] 7A xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 7B xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2] 7C xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3] 7D xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5] 7E xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.4] 7F xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.2] 80 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4] 81 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 82 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 83 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4] 84 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 85 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3] 86 xulPantherRiver.esp 87 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 88 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1] 89 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8] 8A xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] 8B xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] 8C xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] 8D xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2] 8E xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5] 8F xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] 90 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.3] 91 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.1] 92 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.0] 93 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp 94 Arena No Raiment.esp 95 Better Sheogorath.esp 96 Carry all you want-5118.esp 97 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp 98 SSS.esp 99 TML_InfiniteCharges.esp 9A Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp 9B Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp 9C TheKillingMoon.esp 9D Telekinetic Mastery.esp [Version 2] 9E MidasSpells.esp 9F Breathing Idle Animations.esp A0 actors_in_charge.esp A1 ActorsInMadness.esp A2 DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp A3 VipCxj_HairEyeSet.esp A4 CM Partners.esp A5 InariRace.esp A6 L'Nobody.esp A7 Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp A8 AinmhiRace.esp A9 Sharingan and Uchiha Clan.esp AA Synx.esp AB CM Pym.esp AC CM Partner Liana.esp AD CM Partner Sandra.esp AE CM Partner Isabell.esp AF CM Partner Franziska.esp B0 Tamara.esp B1 DATalitha.esp B2 DAGolden Saint.esp B3 EVE_KhajiitFix.esp B4 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.4.0] B5 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.4.0] B6 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 1.3] B7 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 1.3] B8 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 1.4] B9 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 5.3.0] BA Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 5.3.0] BB Bashed Patch, 0.esp BC Container Menu Support.esp BD Viera-v3.esp BE Rinnegan.esp BF CM_Chris.esp C0 TJBVitharnBase.esp C1 CRPalace.esp C2 Dawnspire Manor COBL.esp C3 CRDesolateBeta2.esp C4 Knights_Fix.esp C5 OblivionHackBooks.esp C6 SI playable armors.esp C7 Dalls_Jyggylag.esp C8 00Ice set.esp C9 Aion Polaris Staff.esp CA Siegfrieds Soul Calibur.esp CB Scarbard.esp CC Warglaive v2 - EV.esp CD 00Dragonswing_2.esp CE Yamato COMPLETED.esp CF Light Swords.esp D0 00CrimsonWings.esp D1 Wrathful Gladiators Greatsword.esp D2 SathixClaymoreV1.esp D3 DMC4Weapons.esp D4 SoulEdge's.esp D5 DMC4 Dante-Vergil.esp D6 FLY_Weapons.esp D7 Wings.esp D8 ares.esp D9 LegendaryWeapons&Armor_2ch.esp DA Elisyum.esp DB LienNeville.esp DC FF00_Ladies Equipment.esp DD Risty's Armor.esp DE BloodRayne.esp DF Pirates Outfits.esp E0 Witch LongDress.esp E1 Sexy Shirt.esp E2 Mandorla.esp E3 Room Wear.esp E4 Sexy Killer.esp E5 RANs_tL-YAMI.esp E6 Lich King's Helm v1_1.esp E7 AncientGuardianRobe.esp E8 Frill Short Dress and Halloween Backpack.esp E9 JP Dress.esp EA Wings of Tyrael.esp EB HGECKoganeHuntressOutfitDV.esp EC Dynasty Recolor.esp ED Lambda-11.esp EE UFF Ryk Swimwear Collection.esp EF 00Sciath.esp F0 00magic shields.esp F1 MH Papimeru Armor for BUv2.esp F2 RANs LQH-090419.esp F3 ISbrandSwords.esp F4 NeoDarkarmor.esp F5 ZealotF.esp F6 Emperor_F.esp F7 China armor.esp F8 Nekoarmor.esp F9 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Panther River patch.esp [Version 1.4] the only one that was red is the kavatch rebuilt but all kavatch mods are disabled at the moment, Boss has indicated a few dirty files so ill jump onto that right awy and get that fixed up, i know i did arrange the mod list yet i just launched it to make sure it would run ill do that as well while im thinking of it. Mega Post you said the files would get fixed did i not do something right? Onlivion Comix & Pix im moving the Midnas down along with the better citys i also checked the read mes nothing indicated any incompatibility, it runs just fine for me.
taylormatthew88 Posted October 27, 2013 Author Posted October 27, 2013 Half way done now re arranging all the mods into the correct places i looked up a load order and i had a few purple one now there all going green once i have re arranged it completely, removed and fixed all dirty files ill post the new load order and whats happening after using the load order
Poontank Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 "He's Guilbert. I'm Reynald." I didn't count your total mods before - they are almost at the maximum limit. Your main problem is that you have way too many mods installed. The more mods, the more problematic it gets to make them work together and the less stable the game can become. Oblivion is very susceptible to issues with huge load orders. Prone to crashes with such a large amount. Depending on the mods installed the game can already become unstable with a total of about 200 plugins. That's why it is important to rebuild the Bashed Patch and then deactivate the mods merged into it. And maybe giving 'TES4Gecko' a try to get rid of the many single-outfit mods. You could have ~150 mods at best after merging a lot of these esps. Naturally you should back up the files before attempting to merge them. But hopefully the game will work with the changes to your load order. Otherwise it's certainly a problem of too many active plugins at once.
fejeena Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 In you new load order is still a missing master file. Dread Knight Armor Addon.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Dread Knight Armor.esp !! place it below Dread Knight Armor.esp !! And your load order seems to be BOSS sorted to the Better Cities Mods. All below seems not be sorted. Clothing Mod should be higher in the load order. Seem you ignored my first post Run BOSS, then sort the Mods BOSS did not sort manually (clothes Mods to sorted clothes Mods, Quest Mods to sorted quest Mods, .....Sort them in about alphabetically) BOSS Can only sort what it knows ( what's in the BOSS masterlist) I do not know what's wrong with you Oblivion.esm . Why it's missing the master file Oblvion.esm ??? Oblivion.esm ----> Delinquent MASTER: Oblivion.esm Perhaps it is corrupted? If you ( after sorting your Mods) still have Problems to start the game install Oblivion again.
taylormatthew88 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 I didnt ignore you mega sorry if did put i was gonna re assort them to the recommendation you had made i had revisited the better cities mod and they said it must be placed last in the load order so i moved it back down i have also place the dread knight files to the order u have described fortunately i made i a copy of the original installation so ill copy the esm from that replacing the esm has worked still get the crash for some reason i have deactivated a collection of mods, looking over gecko learning how it works once i get the gist of it ill use it to start putting a few mods together load order is of now the following Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34] 02 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 03 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.4.0] 04 CM Partners.esm 05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 06 Lattamerv3.esm 07 Toaster Says Share v3.esm 08 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp 09 Better Bell Sounds.esp 0A OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp 0B Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] 0C Symphony of Violence.esp 0D Container Menu Support.esp 0E Loading Screens - Vanilla No Text.esp 0F VipCxj_AirSystem.esp 10 VipCxj_HairEyeSet.esp 11 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 12 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.4] 13 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 14 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.2] 15 Knights.esp 16 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 17 DLCHorseArmor.esp 18 DLCThievesDen.esp 19 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 1A DLCFrostcrag.esp 1B DLCOrrery.esp 1C DLCVileLair.esp 1D DLCSpellTomes.esp 1E Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 1F Alluring Wine Bottles.esp 20 00magic shields.esp 21 1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp 22 1SB_NightWeaveOutfit.esp 23 1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp 24 adelina.esp 25 AC2 Revisited HGEC.esp 26 AncientGuardianRobe.esp 27 BlackRoseWitch.esp 28 BloodRayne.esp 29 CuteHalloweenCostume.esp 2A DarthRevan.esp 2B Diva.esp 2C DMC4 Dante-Vergil.esp 2D DMC4 Nero Clothes.esp 2E Elisyum.esp 2F Elwing.esp 30 FF00_Clothes.esp 31 Frill Short Dress and Halloween Backpack.esp 32 Hentai_Juliet_Uniform.esp 33 HentaiChinaDress.esp 34 Hentai DarkSisterhoodArmor.esp 35 HGECKoganeHuntressOutfitDV.esp 36 Gloria Armor.esp 37 IndigoArmor.esp 38 JP Dress.esp 39 Lambda-11.esp 3A LienNeville.esp 3B MakotoOutfit.esp 3C Mandorla.esp 3D MH Papimeru Armor for BUv2.esp 3E MODAssassinsCreed2_Revisited.esp 3F Nekoarmor.esp 40 NoelCosplay.esp 41 Pirates Outfits.esp 42 RANs_tL-YAMI.esp 43 RANs LQH-090419.esp 44 Room Wear.esp 45 Sexy Killer.esp 46 Sexy Mandarin Dress.esp 47 TGND_EY_Vampirehunter.esp 48 TGND - Kogane's Ranger Armor.esp 49 UFF HS Amazon Armor.esp 4A UFF Ryk Swimwear Collection.esp 4B Wings of Tyrael.esp 4C Witch LongDress.esp 4D ares.esp 4E BlessedMageKnightDress.esp 4F China armor.esp 50 Diabloarmor2.esp 51 Dwavenremodel.esp 52 Dynasty.esp 53 Dynasty Recolor.esp 54 NeoDarkarmor.esp 55 Wings.esp 56 ZealotF.esp 57 FF00_Ladies Equipment.esp 58 Lich King's Helm v1_1.esp 59 Risty's Armor.esp 5A Tyrael Armor.esp 5B Plate of the Shadow.esp 5C Schwertleite Armor.esp 5D Underworld Armor.esp 5E 00CrimsonWings.esp 5F 00Dragonswing_2.esp 60 00Ice set.esp 61 00Sciath.esp 62 2masamune.esp 63 Aion Polaris Staff.esp 64 AngelslayerEN.esp 65 bustersword.esp 66 Dalls_Jyggylag.esp 67 DMCWeapons.esp [Version 1.3] 68 DMC4Weapons.esp 69 FinalFantasy10BrotherhoodswordNEW.esp 6A FLY_Weapons.esp 6B Heretic Reavers.esp 6C ISbrandSwords.esp 6D Jedi LightSabers with Sound.esp 6E KitRae Exotic Dual Remake.esp 6F Light Swords.esp 70 New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp 71 SathixClaymoreV1.esp 72 Scarbard.esp 73 Siegfrieds Soul Calibur.esp 74 slayersword.esp 75 SoulCalibur1h.esp 76 SoulCalibur2h.esp 77 SoulEdge's.esp 78 Warglaive v2 - EV.esp 79 Wrathful Gladiators Greatsword.esp 7A Yamato COMPLETED.esp 7B Drake Knight Armor and Weapons v1.0.esp 7C JG Elven.esp 7D LegendaryWeapons&Armor_2ch.esp 7E NexonsArmoryENG.esp 7F Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp 80 SI playable armors.esp 81 EVE_KhajiitFix.esp 82 MidasSpells.esp 83 Telekinetic Mastery.esp [Version 2] 84 TheKillingMoon.esp 85 ElzMoreVoice-For Companion.esp 86 My Voice Extender.esp 87 shiveringislesdoorusable.esp 88 Spell Delete.esp 89 UOPS Additional Changes.esp 8A USIPS Additional Changes.esp 8B OblivionHackBooks.esp 8C Arena No Raiment.esp 8D Carry all you want-5118.esp 8E CharGenAmulet.esp 8F TML_InfiniteCharges.esp 90 Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp 91 Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp 92 personality_idles4_nopc.esp 93 SSS.esp 94 DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp 95 Breathing Idle Animations.esp 96 actors_in_charge.esp 97 ActorsInMadness.esp 98 MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 99 WayshrineMapMarkers.esp 9A CRDesolateBeta2.esp 9B Crucible House.esp 9C CRPalace.esp 9D Dawnspire Manor COBL.esp 9E Hale Housing.esp 9F Highcross House.esp [Version 1.1] A0 NewSheothManor.esp A1 Split Expansion.esp A2 ShiveringTreehouses.esp A3 SSHouseSI.esp A4 The Retreat-AN compatible.esp A5 TJBVitharnBase.esp A6 Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp A7 Fall Hair Wig Shop - EV.esp A8 Hiyoko_Store.esp A9 Romuska Fantasy Store.esp AA CM Partners.esp AB InariRace.esp AC L'Nobody.esp AD Rinnegan.esp AE Sharingan and Uchiha Clan.esp AF Synx.esp B0 Viera-v3.esp B1 CM_Chris.esp B2 CM Pym.esp B3 CM Partner Isabell.esp B4 CM Partner Franziska.esp B5 CM Partner Liana.esp B6 CM Partner Sandra.esp B7 DAGolden Saint.esp B8 Tamara.esp B9 Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.21] BA Better Sheogorath.esp BB SI Defending The Realm.esp BC SoulGoddness.esp BD Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0] BE xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] BF xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] C0 xulTheHeath.esp C1 XulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1] C2 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] C3 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2] C4 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3] C5 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5] C6 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.4] C7 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.2] C8 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4] C9 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] CA xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] CB xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4] CC xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] CD xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3] CE xulPantherRiver.esp CF xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] D0 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1] D1 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8] D2 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] D3 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] D4 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] D5 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2] D6 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5] D7 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] D8 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.3] D9 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.1] DA xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.0] DB Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp DC Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp DD Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp DE Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp DF All Natural.esp [Version 1.34] E0 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34] E1 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] E2 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp E3 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34] E4 Better Cities .esp E5 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.4.0] E6 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.4.0] E7 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 1.3] E8 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 1.3] E9 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 1.4] EA Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 5.3.0] EB Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 5.3.0] EC Better Cities - Unique Landscape Panther River patch.esp [Version 1.4] ED Bashed Patch, 0.esp using ur suggestions mega and this link http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/loadorder.html for a load order idea of to put it together this is what i got.
taylormatthew88 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 just fixed the problem i had to do everything the 2 of you had suggested then i also copied over the clean files of the original install of oblivion including the bsa and esm files it now works perfectly and better then before thank you both for the help and patience you had to deal with me lol if there is anything else u notice wrong or recommendations ill be happy to use and check them out.
Poontank Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 It's good to hear that the game is working now! This might be a perfect opportunity to make a backup of your whole 'Data' folder. Store it on an external HD if you have one. This backup can also be made an archive using 7z, WinRAR or Winzip to save on storage space. In case anything goes wrong with your install in the future you can easily get all current files from that backup. No need hunting down and reinstalling all your mods. Apart from merging mods to relieve the load order, another advice I can give is to save the load order of active plugins as it is now in Wrye Bash. It's done by right-clicking on the 'Files' header bar in the mods tab and then selecting 'Load > Save List'. Once you have saved a list it will appear together with the 'Bethesda ESMs' entry in that menu and can be loaded to restore a load order. A good example what a load list can be used for is this: Whenever I want to switch between Oblivion and its total conversion Nehrim, I deactivate all Oblivion mods by unchecking Oblivion.esm. All plugins are deactivated with a single click. If I want to switch back to Oblivion, I simply load my current mod list - activating all my 215 installed mods at once. You can also use it for different mod set-ups with their respective lists.
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