Infinite Black Screen

[Gamerno01]

Hey lovely Fellas,

 

since i started modding my Oblivion 15 years ago iam addicted with modding and few years ago i found this site while modding my Skyrim.

Now iam at least once a week here to check out whats new. Normally i can fix my game myself with the HUGE amount of Threads at this LL

but now iam struggling for months.

 

My Problem: If i enter a building i get an infinite black screen. I can hear the door closing after the loading screen and getting sounds of the

interior but see nothing and cant move. The curious thing is, it does not happen always. Most of the time its when i enter a merchant. For

example: I start a new game and start playing. Going into Riverwood Trader to get some heal potions for starters and start the golden claw

quest. BUT after running threw the graves and grabbing the claw i get the infinte black screen i described.

 

Its propably a load order problem and i confess iam really bad at sorting it despite watching tons of tutorials so i let loot do this job.

 

Specs:

 

MS 10 Pro 64

I7-4820K

32 GB DDR3

NVidea GTX 1080

 

Load Order:

 

*Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
*Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
*SexLab.esm
*SexLabAroused.esm
*ZaZAnimationPack.esm
*SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
*Devious Devices - Assets.esm
*Devious Devices - Integration.esm
*Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
*Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
*SleepTight.esp
*FISS.esp
*Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
*ECE Sliders for Racemenu.esl
*SGEyebrows.esp
*Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
*CreatureFramework.esm
*High Poly Head.esm
*SexLab Attraction.esm
*SGHairPackBase.esm
*Bandit Boys Club.esl
*Mortal Enemies.esp
*SkyUI_SE.esp
*SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
*Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
*SexLab Approach.esp
*SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
*iNeed.esp
*iNeed - Extended.esp
*OBIS SE.esp
*BaboInteractiveDia.esp
*Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
*New Vaermina Statue.esp
*CBBE.esp
*RaceMenu.esp
*RaceMenuPlugin.esp
*RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
*New Falmer Statue fixes.esp
*Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins Reborn.esp
*SLSFFameComments.esp
*Populated Forts Towers Places Reborn.esp
*MistySkye.esp
*Populated Lands Roads Paths Reborn.esp
*Populated Cities Towns Villages Reborn.esp
*JoyfulFollowers.esp
*SofiaFollower.esp
*SexyStartingOptions.esp
*BooksOfDibella.esp
*Joy of Perspective.esp
*Recorder Follower Base.esp
*SimpleSlavery.esp
*TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
*BreakableEquipmentSystem.esp
*SpousesEnhancedSE.esp
*DeviousCarriages.esp
*The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp
*Optional.DibellaStatuesFixes.esp
*SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
*populated military camps.esp
*NewStatueOfShalidorMagicLights.esp
*3BBB.esp
*SOSPhysicsManager.esp
*Backshields.esp
*TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp
*Devious Devices SE patch.esp
*DeviouslyHelpless.esp
*DeviousMimicClothes.esp
*Naked Dungeons.esp
*Koralina's Makeup Tweaks.esp
*NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp
*JaxonzMCMKicker.esp
*MoreNastyCritters.esp
*DeadlyDragons.esp
*Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
*J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp
*Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells Reborn.esp
*IrilethReplacerbyDD.esp
*SuperbSerana.esp
*iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
*SimplyBalanced.esp
*DibellanBeauties.esp
*TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
*High Poly Mjoll.esp
*PositiveUndressedReactions.esp
*KidnappedByRieklings.esp
*WeightedArrows.esp
*DifficultArchery_200 auto.esp
*EvenMoreMakeup.esp
*Koralina's Eyebrows.esp
*koralinas_freckles_moles.esp
*KS Hairdo's.esp
*KSHairdosSMP.esp
*12FemaleBrows.esp
*The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
*No More Spitting.esp
*FNIS.esp
*FNIS_PCEA2.esp
*FNISSexyMove.esp
*SOSRaceMenu.esp
*XPMSE.esp
*TDF Aroused Rape.esp
*SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
*BakaMotionData.esp
*BattleFuck.esp
*BattleFuckKidnappedByRieklings.esp
*BattleFuckNightcrawler.esp
*Blush When Aroused.esp
*DrunkenSluts.esp
*DW.esp
*ElisifHighPoly.esp
*sr_FillHerUp.esp
*HornyCreatures.esp
KidnappedByRieklings_GoblinSlayer.esp
*Love Sickness.esp
*zSLSDNeophytes.esp
*New Body for Aela by Erundil.esp
*NudeYngvildSpirits.esp
*SexLabTools.esp
*SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
*SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
*SexlabAchievement.esp
*SLAdventures.esp
*SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
*SexLabDefeat.esp
*Sexlab - Cum Overlays.esp
*SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
*JailRape.esp
*SexLabStopCombat.esp
*Cherrypie.esp
*SexLab_PaySexCrime.esp
*SexLabMatchMaker.esp
*SLSO.esp
*SGHairPackAIO.esp
*SLtriggersQuiver.esp
*SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
*SLAnimLoader.esp
*ButtSlap.esp
*SLATE.esp
*SLDrunkRedux.esp
*SLNights.esp
*Spank That Ass.esp
*MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp
*sztkUtil.esp
*Less Magic.esp
*Leveling Freedom.esp
*Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
*Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
*Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp

 

PS: This is my first post at LL, if i violated any posting rules please tell me.

 

[Incubusbul]

I'm struggling with the same problem on a messy setup. Had partial success following these steps:

Spoiler

- Load an older save (as long as it doesn't have CTD on save glitch)
- Create a NEW save (through pause menu)
- Type in player.kill
- Load your latest save (the one that had CTD glitch)
- Type in player.kill
- Try saving (I usually just use quicksave)

 

[traison]

6 hours ago, Gamerno01 said:

sounds of the interior

 

As in, music and/or ambient sounds, or footsteps and npc dialogue?

 

If all you're getting is the music then most likely the game thread froze. Freezing issues are very difficult to debug. Unless you're familiar with debuggers and bypassing DRM, your best bet is going to be disabling mods until the problem goes away.

[Gamerno01]

6 hours ago, traison said:

 

As in, music and/or ambient sounds, or footsteps and npc dialogue?

 

If all you're getting is the music then most likely the game thread froze. Freezing issues are very difficult to debug. Unless you're familiar with debuggers and bypassing DRM, your best bet is going to be disabling mods until the problem goes away.

Music and ambient sounds are running, i dont think there are npcs spawned cause i cant hear any footsteps nor any dialogues

[Pingu08]

Did you ever find a solution to this problem?

 

I have been struggling with the same issues for a few weeks, and can't for the life of me figure out what is causing this.

[traison]

27 minutes ago, Pingu08 said:

Did you ever find a solution to this problem?

 

I have been struggling with the same issues for a few weeks, and can't for the life of me figure out what is causing this.

 

I believe its quite unlikely you'd have the exact same issue as the OP. Same symptoms, sure, but there's probably a thousand reasons why the game would freeze. Removing mods until the problem goes away is still going to be the easiest way.

[Pingu08]

22 hours ago, traison said:

 

I believe its quite unlikely you'd have the exact same issue as the OP. Same symptoms, sure, but there's probably a thousand reasons why the game would freeze. Removing mods until the problem goes away is still going to be the easiest way.

 

Yes, I know.

I've just been too busy for troubleshooting lately, and since our load orders look somewhat similar, I was hoping maybe the culprit was a mod, we have in common.

[Azailahab]

From https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/wiki/troubleshooting_guide/#wiki_skyrim_won.27t_start.2Fstarts_windowed

 

Maybe a bit outdated, but it still has some useful tips.

 

In regards to infinite loading screens,

 

Infinite Loading Screen/Loading Screen Crashes
This is not having enough memory. Install and correctly configure SKSE and Classic Crash Fixes or SSE Engine according to the beginner's guide.

 

Really long loading screen, but it does load eventually (I only consider it infinite if it takes longer than 10 min)

Any mod that has to load a lot of things or affects a lot of records can cause this, as can increasing ugrids to load. Common causatives: Immersive Citizens, anything with a skyproc, Dyndolod, etc. Be patient, and make sure you have the memory patch.

 

Not sure if the memory stuff still applies. As mentioned by others using the half split method of disabling mods to find the culprit is the best way.

 

 

[Gamerno01]

Hi, sorry for the late response i was little busy irl.

No i havent found a solution yet. Disabling mods to find the villain did not work for me very well because it worked after i disabled one some times but if i play a few minutes the same issue comes back at another loading screen again.... enabling the mod cause it was obviously not the problem and disabling another which was on before fixes the problem for another one. As u can guess its a little bit tiring to troubleshoot threw 100 + mods all few loading screens so id appreciate further help.

I will read the reddit thread you posted earlier in my next few free days to hopefully fix it so i can finally play again

[JimUpdating]

add trainwreck https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/106440 which is reported as version independent? It'll normally only report on a CTD but may help.

[traison]

57 minutes ago, JimUpdating said:

add trainwreck https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/106440 which is reported as version independent? It'll normally only report on a CTD but may help.

 

Trainwreck doesn't print class contents. It is almost useless in a remote assistance situation such as here. More importantly however, freezes are not crashes. A freeze will not create a crash log.

 

1 hour ago, Gamerno01 said:

Disabling mods to find the villain did not work for me very well because it worked after i disabled one some times but if i play a few minutes the same issue comes back at another loading screen again.... enabling the mod cause it was obviously not the problem and disabling another which was on before fixes the problem for another one.

 

The only practical approach to a freeze is unfortunately to disable mods until the problem goes away. The other option you're looking at is to use a debugger and various other tools and security bypassers to identify where its stuck, how to not get it stuck again, then device a bytecode patch for that location to get past that one specific issue. For comparison, if I had to do something like this (and I've had the misfortune of having do so something similar in the past) I'd be looking at a couple of weeks of work minimum, 8-12 hours a day, 7 days a week.

I'd say you're already close though if you've found a mod that, when disabled, changes how your problem behaves. If however, as it seems you're saying, the problem moves around, as in, it doesn't matter which mod you disable it seems to have the same effect on the issue then you need to look at this at a broader perspective: what do all mods have in common? resource use? I recall some people reporting that simply overloading Skyrim with mods will cause these infinite loading screens - have you hit your limit?

 

Edited March 10, 2024 by traison