Skyrim SE and GSync

[Gudulba]

Is anyone successfully using GSync with Skyrim SE? I was under the impression that GSync should "smooth" the stuttering when frame rates go below 60fps or so.

 

Most of the time I am at 60fps. But in some notorious places like Falkreath or with some JK's outside mods, I go down to 45fps or so, which definitely doesn't look as smooth anymore as with the 60fps. But I can't see any difference whether GSync is turned on or off.  Should I see a difference with GSync on??

 

Using Nvdia RTX 3080 and LG OLED C2. The TV's OSD shows that GSync is active and the TV's frame rates seem to follow the game's frame rates according to the OSD.

[traison]

My understanding of the "new" proprietary vsync implementations is that they would adjust the refresh rate of the monitor to match that of the output rate from your gpu. Vsync keeps the rate from going over your monitor's rate; gsync (and amd's equivalent) lower (or increase?) the rate of your monitor to match that of the rate produced by the gpu. So unless I missunderstood something, gsync is not going to magically add 15 fps to get to 60 fps. 45fps is still going to look like a slideshow gsync or not, the point is you shouldn't see tearing which is an entirely different issue.

 

There's frame generation AI in modern video cards - that's more along the lines of what you're looking for here.

[belegost]

@traison this is not related to anything in this topic, but I just caught myself being able to tell what clothing and hair mods you have installed just by looking at your avatar. An observation that baffled me. I think I've been playing Skyrim a bit too much...

Edited October 26, 2023 by belegost

[Gudulba]

23 hours ago, traison said:

My understanding of the "new" proprietary vsync implementations is that they would adjust the refresh rate of the monitor to match that of the output rate from your gpu. Vsync keeps the rate from going over your monitor's rate; gsync (and amd's equivalent) lower (or increase?) the rate of your monitor to match that of the rate produced by the gpu. So unless I missunderstood something, gsync is not going to magically add 15 fps to get to 60 fps. 45fps is still going to look like a slideshow gsync or not, the point is you shouldn't see tearing which is an entirely different issue.

 

There's frame generation AI in modern video cards - that's more along the lines of what you're looking for here.

Thank you for your input.

 

" that they would adjust the refresh rate of the monitor to match that of the output rate from your gpu" -> yes, that's what I read in various articles about GSync, too, But I still fail to see the benefit of it. Vsync has always been able to completely suppress tearing for me, whether the frame rate was too high or too low compared to the monitor's fixed refresh rate.

 

Why then would we need Gsync on top of it?? (most articles said to use Gsync and Vsync together)

[traison]

3 hours ago, Gudulba said:

Why then would we need Gsync on top of it??

 

Gsync is for computers that can't maintain the frame rate of their monitors. With gsync (and freesync) you can play at 25 fps on a 60 fps monitor with no tearing. Still looks like a slideshow, but at least you get no half-slides, as it were.

 

Edit: The funny thing about GPUs these days is that if you look at the tech they're pushing it's all about allowing "passable" gameplay at less than optimal fps. This is like the very literal definition of what happens when you let the marketing team run the show. They sell something that can't be delivered, and the engineers are forced to implement things like "AI frame generation"; which by the way probably has nothing to do with AI and is more likely a frame buffer (ie. introduces video lag) and a frame to frame blending effect used to fill in the blanks, i.e. something I was doing back in Windows 98SE on a pirated copy of Paint Shop Pro. Granted the speed can't be compared, but I doubt the idea is all that different.

Edited October 27, 2023 by traison