SkyrimOne Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Hello, I dropped yesterday a post how great was running for the first time an old gem "Slaverun Reloaded + Slaverun Enforcer -Standalone upgrade". While I have still not finished the story quests, I have been wondering how amazing would be to have this experience from a dominant male perspective. I am writing this because I found many posts in this forum regarding lack of mods/content for a dominant male role. A post I have replied yesterday stated the following: "Basically all the BDSM and pretty much all SexLab mods just treat me as a Female and a Submissive". And the commentary was, yes, there is some content available (Paradise Hall, Diary of mine, and some), but it is hard to find a working formula for a mod to create dialogues and animations from the male dominant view. I would disagree. Let me first give a intro of what Slaverun experience has been so far, and how would be quite possible to reverse the roles. Slaverun starts with a quest and soon you will become a slave. A slavery law is passed for the first city where there is a base of operations (trainers, dungeons, slavers). You first resist to the idea of being a slave, but you get a lot of sexual training. Incremental selective training. A more training of every kind -the all BDSM book. ( I forgot to mention.. training?? lol). Then you will become a collaborator and you are tasked to bring the leadership of other Skyrim's city into the slavery organization, which you would achieve serving more sexual acts. All females will walk basically naked across every city and sexual acts everywhere the eye can see.. beautiful ! The key component of the experience is not the sexual animations but the dialogues. What you respond, although there is not really choices and the act perform to you. And clearly, you have to be a female to run Slaverun as the dialogs are really written for female parts. There is probably more at the end of the quests which I have yet to see. But back to the main topic: dominant male. If I was able, I would salvage 80-90%+ of this framework. Everything is already there. But let's reverse the roles. It could go this way. You start with a quest, and are introduced to the slavery organization (or could be a Deadra god?). You are task as a dominant slaver to bring enslave females and train them. You start with a given female slave provided by the starting quest or you are given some means to enslave yourself the NPC/follower you like most for the role. So, every mission/quest written in Slaverun (all the training stages) is already there. The dialogues would reverse. I, as the trainer, tell you what I will do to you, you get the animation and the responses to the submissive female slave is exactly the same as the reply I was giving as a female slave. (about the same I get in Slaverun). How hard can that be to change this? The progression of the quest would remain the same to the point I get tasked to bring slavery to other cities. Then, as a dominant male, I go to each city, I make a deal enslaving some (2-3) females to show how that formula would work for the entire city. At the end of the slavery process, a working framework will be established with a male dominant with tools to make and sell slaves. Anyone is up to the challenge? I wish I knew about Skyrim's LoversLab modding few years back when the community was more active. But if this will not work here, Starfield is next !!!
Corsec Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) Did you already know that you can play the Slaverun quests as a Dominant male? You don't have to play it as a female and/or slave. There are different versions of the main quest depending on whether your player character is a femsub, FemDomme or MaleDom (there isn't a malesub version of the questline). Edited October 22, 2023 by Corsec
SkyrimOne Posted October 22, 2023 Author Posted October 22, 2023 56 minutes ago, Corsec said: Did you already know that you can play the Slaverun quests as a Dominant male? You don't have to play it as a female and/or slave. There are different versions of the main quest depending on whether your player character is a femsub, FemDomme or MaleDom (there isn't a malesub version of the questline). No. I did not know. Can you possibly expand on how that will work? From the initial exchanges I saw the NPC refering to .. you are a male.. like.. it was not suppose to be.. Than I switched.. I wish there was an option on MCM to make it clearer on your role as Dom Male...
Corsec Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, SkyrimOne said: No. I did not know. Can you possibly expand on how that will work? From the initial exchanges I saw the NPC refering to .. you are a male.. like.. it was not suppose to be.. Than I switched.. I wish there was an option on MCM to make it clearer on your role as Dom Male... If you do the Slaverun intro quest then eventually slavery will be legalized. Either Jarl Balgruf or Master Pike will send you to speak to Bellamy outside of the Whiterun gates. Bellamy will have a scene to explain the new slavery laws. At this point you can choose which quest path to take. Both male and female characters will have the option to join the slavery organization as a slaver. I think there might also be an MCM toggle that you might need to click if you are playing as a male, but I can't remember. If you use Sexlab Survival then you can us it's MCM option to autostart Slaverun and skip the intro quest, but I'm not sure if you can still join as a male slaver.
SkyrimOne Posted October 22, 2023 Author Posted October 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Corsec said: If you do the Slaverun intro quest then eventually slavery will be legalized. Either Jarl Balgruf or Master Pike will send you to speak to Bellamy outside of the Whiterun gates. Bellamy will have a scene to explain the new slavery laws. At this point you can choose which quest path to take. Both male and female characters will have the option to join the slavery organization as a slaver. I think there might also be an MCM toggle that you might need to click if you are playing as a male, but I can't remember. If you use Sexlab Survival then you can us it's MCM option to autostart Slaverun and skip the intro quest, but I'm not sure if you can still join as a male slaver. Thanks. The way I recall was I presented myself as a female to the Jarl.. and I was immediately subjugated to slavery.. no options were offered... and I do not recall an option on MCM to set you up as a dominant. After you are a slave.. it's all sexual training missions.. on and on for hours... ::)
Corsec Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 24 minutes ago, SkyrimOne said: Thanks. The way I recall was I presented myself as a female to the Jarl.. and I was immediately subjugated to slavery.. no options were offered... and I do not recall an option on MCM to set you up as a dominant. After you are a slave.. it's all sexual training missions.. on and on for hours... ::) Yeah, you probably won't see the MaleDom option if you are playing as a female. Start a new game as a male and you will eventually get the option to join as a slaver when you talk to Bellamy.
Corsec Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Here is the relevant quote from the LE Slaverun modpage- Spoiler - Male player characters can join the slavery organization if you like. Oh you know you do, I don't even know why I made this optional. (This is the male slaver questline, you work as a slaver and will do quests for the slave master. Status: finished - If you happen to be a strong woman you can kick the slavers' asses and start to work in the slavery organisation despite having the vagina box checked on the equipment tab. Who knows, you may end up making your would be master into your own personal bitch. Charma is fun. (This is the female slaver questline, you work as a slaver and will do quests for the slave master. This questline is nearly identical to the male slaver questline. Status: finished
SkyrimOne Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Corsec said: Here is the relevant quote from the LE Slaverun modpage- Hide contents - Male player characters can join the slavery organization if you like. Oh you know you do, I don't even know why I made this optional. (This is the male slaver questline, you work as a slaver and will do quests for the slave master. Status: finished - If you happen to be a strong woman you can kick the slavers' asses and start to work in the slavery organisation despite having the vagina box checked on the equipment tab. Who knows, you may end up making your would be master into your own personal bitch. Charma is fun. (This is the female slaver questline, you work as a slaver and will do quests for the slave master. This questline is nearly identical to the male slaver questline. Status: finished Great! This run it did work, as a male dominant slaver running missions in BDSM style. It was quite confusing until I get to Pike to Belamy assignment, with the later calling me Sir! Before, it was all a narrative mixed between genders, even with a book dropped in the inventory note of be looking for a male lover ..... Note I am about to train a follower (which is about what I was asking in my suggested implementation!!), yet, I need to take her in chain in from of Belamy.. I do not have chain and I am stuck... where do I get those? .. the merchant does not have them.... Looking for making more progress............................
Corsec Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, SkyrimOne said: I do not have chain and I am stuck... where do I get those? .. the merchant does not have them.... You will probably have to use the console to spawn in some chains, I don't know if they will be Devious Devices or Zaz chains. If you check the quest in xEdit it will probably say which ones are needed. If you use the console to check what the slave NPCs are wearing then you can spawn more of those and see if that works.
SkyrimOne Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Corsec said: You will probably have to use the console to spawn in some chains, I don't know if they will be Devious Devices or Zaz chains. If you check the quest in xEdit it will probably say which ones are needed. If you use the console to check what the slave NPCs are wearing then you can spawn more of those and see if that works. I was planning to use a cheat mod where I can add any item from any mod in my inventory. I will try that. I was wondering if there was a merchant ready to sell the equipment so the mission was logically flowing to progression.. But.. if it works.. I am gold!
SkyrimOne Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, SkyrimOne said: I was planning to use a cheat mod where I can add any item from any mod in my inventory. I will try that. I was wondering if there was a merchant ready to sell the equipment so the mission was logically flowing to progression.. But.. if it works.. I am gold! Darn. I am successful on spawning basically every Devious Devices or Zaz, but I am still stuck on having Bellamy taking action. No matter what I do, I get the following options: 1 - Ups.. seemed like I lost her somehow, I will be back soon with her. 2 - I am not sure anymore about .... I have no experience in checking mods via Xedit, so I cannot check what item I need. Can someone help identify the item I need? .. Also, I am not sure about the action. I bring the follower and I set her to " wait here". And it did not work.. I tried also the "follow me", so I have the follower in the team at the moment I have the dialog with Bellamy. I hope is not something broken as I had some issues in the past with actioning slave in Diary of mine.
Corsec Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Sorry, I've never played the male slaver questline so I don't know how to fix this.
SkyrimOne Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Corsec said: Sorry, I've never played the male slaver questline so I don't know how to fix this. Thanks anyway.. I actually tried the SSEdit way.. I am able to see the dialog, but there is a reference of a script? so I don't know how to obtain the object id to add.. In any event, I rollback the game to an earlier save, and rejected the "training". So, I am progressing with other next tasks... What I do not know at this point is how I can add my own slaves (probably the method what learn via that training..???) to the roster. I have no slaves. I dont' know if some are going to be acquired via tasks. If you know, please let me know what the process would be. -- I am assuming even in the female questline, there is a point you will be promoted slaver? so can control your own slaves...??
Corsec Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 You should post these questions in the Slaverun LE and SSE threads so that people who know the answer can respond.
WinterInterloper Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) If you want some other mods for a Male Dominant playthrough... Troubles of the Heroine has some events if you're male (such as punishing someone pretending to be you, submissive female follower events, etc.), but just be aware you're dealing with a translated mod that also can put you into a submissive role due to some of the characters and options, and I warn about the translation part because it may not be 100% clear which options can cause this. Paradise halls, home sweet home, diary of mine, and "And you get a slave", are some go-to's for a slaver run that can have either a little story or semi-dynamic since slavery becomes legal the more you sell to certain holds (kind of weird, I know, but oh well). Also, not 100% sure if diary of mine has an LE version or not, since I play on SE/AE. Beyond that, only other I can recommend would be succubus heart, since all it does is add some gameplay mechanics for being Dominant, so with some really small adjustments to playstyle, you could go go full incubus, if you want. Edited November 12, 2023 by HasturTheGreat
SkyrimOne Posted November 12, 2023 Author Posted November 12, 2023 4 hours ago, HasturTheGreat said: If you want some other mods for a Male Dominant playthrough... Troubles of the Heroine has some events if you're male (such as punishing someone pretending to be you, submissive female follower events, etc.), but just be aware you're dealing with a translated mod that also can put you into a submissive role due to some of the characters and options, and I warn about the translation part because it may not be 100% clear which options can cause this. Paradise halls, home sweet home, diary of mine, and "And you get a slave", are some go-to's for a slaver run that can have either a little story or semi-dynamic since slavery becomes legal the more you sell to certain holds (kind of weird, I know, but oh well). Also, not 100% sure if diary of mine has an LE version or not, since I play on SE/AE. Beyond that, only other I can recommend would be succubus heart, since all it does is add some gameplay mechanics for being Dominant, so with some really small adjustments to playstyle, you could go go full incubus, if you want. Thanks for the input. I switch for a while playing Follout 4.. with more dominant mods but I will be back to Skyrim soon..
SkyrimOne Posted December 12, 2023 Author Posted December 12, 2023 On 11/12/2023 at 1:36 PM, HasturTheGreat said: If you want some other mods for a Male Dominant playthrough... Troubles of the Heroine has some events if you're male (such as punishing someone pretending to be you, submissive female follower events, etc.), but just be aware you're dealing with a translated mod that also can put you into a submissive role due to some of the characters and options, and I warn about the translation part because it may not be 100% clear which options can cause this. Paradise halls, home sweet home, diary of mine, and "And you get a slave", are some go-to's for a slaver run that can have either a little story or semi-dynamic since slavery becomes legal the more you sell to certain holds (kind of weird, I know, but oh well). Also, not 100% sure if diary of mine has an LE version or not, since I play on SE/AE. Beyond that, only other I can recommend would be succubus heart, since all it does is add some gameplay mechanics for being Dominant, so with some really small adjustments to playstyle, you could go go full incubus, if you want. Well.. I am back with SKyrim SE (after VR) .. LOL I was reading about your suggested mod, succubus heart... and it sounds very very promising.. thank you for suggesting that.. I am about to inject into a game.. with Yuriana the submissive wench, DOM and the all group (!!) I just hope I will not end with a pile of conflicting mods !!! .. Troubles of the Heroine .. would be might next pick.. but I am going to hold the download for now.....
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