Caravan Enforcer Posted September 24, 2023 Posted September 24, 2023 I'm having a weird issue where the zbf ankle chains hdt from Zaz are not loading properly. It is giving me the red triangle (missing meshes or textures I believe). I am totally unsure why it is doing this. If it is a Bodyslide issue, there are no slidersets to build for that item. Unsure on why the mesh would not be loading all. This issue is prevalent when using Paradise Halls, as slaves are automatically equipped with this item. Any help is appreciated! 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t.ara Posted September 24, 2023 Posted September 24, 2023 zap can not used together with my other mod, this is the first problem (TUFP) another questionable use is heraetic-assets, DCL and the older versions of DD, POH as well and all together.. lot of other mods I can´t say what they do finally and at least you wanted to play???...with which quest-mod? the wrist - and ankle-chains , based on HDT-PE are well known not possible to work inside of SSE (this only is a hint for the sse - users), the asset is loading but it is not working...breaking nothing but simply not working as a chain between the body-skeleton Bodyslide is not involed onto this assets and those chains work on the few parts of the body, which simply and mostly has the same diameter, not affected by the morphs of Bodyslide (mostly!!) If the mesh is coming from zap and inside of the original game (SLE), then you won´t get issures with it-zap 8plus has tons of new hdt-pe-assets for furniture use, as well... there´s the chance that another mod has this asset and maybe it is not made correctly-anyway has this missing nothing to do with being a hdt-pe-chain at least-you have simply only a problem with the asset´s gamebryo-file, which then is a non-zap-piece, or another mod is somehow disturbing: switch the not played stuff off and play the game
Caravan Enforcer Posted September 24, 2023 Author Posted September 24, 2023 10 hours ago, t.ara said: zap can not used together with my other mod, this is the first problem (TUFP) another questionable use is heraetic-assets, DCL and the older versions of DD, POH as well and all together.. lot of other mods I can´t say what they do finally and at least you wanted to play???...with which quest-mod? the wrist - and ankle-chains , based on HDT-PE are well known not possible to work inside of SSE (this only is a hint for the sse - users), the asset is loading but it is not working...breaking nothing but simply not working as a chain between the body-skeleton Bodyslide is not involed onto this assets and those chains work on the few parts of the body, which simply and mostly has the same diameter, not affected by the morphs of Bodyslide (mostly!!) If the mesh is coming from zap and inside of the original game (SLE), then you won´t get issures with it-zap 8plus has tons of new hdt-pe-assets for furniture use, as well... there´s the chance that another mod has this asset and maybe it is not made correctly-anyway has this missing nothing to do with being a hdt-pe-chain at least-you have simply only a problem with the asset´s gamebryo-file, which then is a non-zap-piece, or another mod is somehow disturbing: switch the not played stuff off and play the game Thanks for the response! I guess I forgot to mention that I am on LE. I am only using your mod, not the original. I am currently on the most recent versions of DD and POH that I know of, and a recent version of DCL. Heretical resources is a requisite mod for another... I even opened it on the Creation Kit, only your mod ZazAnimationPack.esm, Skyrim.esm, and Update.esm were loaded. I went to the correct armor addon and checked the model. It was pointing to the correct nif file at the correct location. The nif file opened properly and I could see the ankle chains on Nifskope. However, the error marker was displayed in the 3D model previewer on CK.
bnub345 Posted September 24, 2023 Posted September 24, 2023 13 hours ago, Caravan Enforcer said: Any help is appreciated! It doesn't matter what you load in the CK, the mesh is controlled by your mod manager. So check the ZAP mod and see if anything is overwriting the meshes. Other possible issues are a bad install, or you are using the SE version of ZAP. I imagine your game would just CTD from that however. Other general problems are using multiple mods that do the same thing, especially if they are literally the same mod. TaraUltimateFurntiturePack is just the ZAP furniture without needing the ZAP framework, so using it with ZAP is not only pointless but can cause problems with your game. Also Heretical Resources is completely bundled into DD, so using it with DD is questionable. If another mod has it as a dependency I guess that's how it goes.
t.ara Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 yes, thank you bnub345:-), the gamebryo file of some black iron textured assets can be maybe overriden by other mods, which maybe use the same folder of ZAP..idk...the problem sometimes is a copy of those gamebryo-files, which come out of exporters. The exporters can´t handle a correct texture-export and the asset is afterwords not any more working-the texture set is for the game poison !!! -it can cause also crashes as soon the player´s cam is going over those assets, then. This can only become corrected by recopying the original working texture with the new created asset-version (this is highly a problem because in nifscope do this missing parameters not appear...this is not only on this asset, it is on a huge amount of assets a problem. NIFSCOPE can not show all parameters of a gamebryo-file and the exporters can not export the meshes with textures in a perfect way. Another example is the traditional vertex-paint, which is used for skyrim in a most rich amount onto lot of stuff: vertex-painted objects all are exported with not suiting parameters for the creation-engine-all those assets need a repair by removing additional enties, caused by the export. This is simply always the problem with gamebryo-file-versions, which changes from game to game and all are bethesda`s innovated versions-...they use endless correction-tools for their different games at least to have the stuff work inside the engines-the overall crux is, that they do not even develope this by semselves-it is coming from third-party-specialized enterprises, which keep and hold their licenses for their versions....same happened again in starfield...new type of files, this times, splitted-perfectly created for modding. This last sentences was ironically.
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