Question about my load order, Loot placing esm after esp? (don't have a lot of mods installed)

[M.BISON]

Hello everyone,

 

load order:

Spoiler

Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
HUDFramework.esm
XDI.esm
PPF.esm
Fallout 4 Fixes.esm
LegendaryDropBugfix.esl
BodyTalk3-RaiderNormalsFix.esl
AAF.esm
AAFThemes.esl
Bememoth Separated Cart.esl
SavrenX HD Vanilla Clothes Optimized.esp
SavrenX HD Vanilla Armor.esp
SavrenX HD DLC Armor and Clothes.esp
SavrenX SuperMutant Armor HD.esp
ArmorPenetrationBugFix.esp
Streamlined Weapons.esp
Thrive Redone.esp
Better Power Armor - Redux.esp
Better Power Armor - Redux - Fallout 4 Fixes Patch.esp
Capped Out.esp
Weapon Scrapping Redone.esp
Clothing Scrapping Redone.esp
Complex Vendors.esp
Complex Vendors - UFO4P Patch.esp
Fallout 4 Consistency Tweaks.esp
Fixed Gobo Effects.esp
InstitWeapPosit.esp
NewtonsRegards.esp
Ownership Fixes.esp
LOST Audio Tweaks.esp
JamaicaPlainPathing.esp
Keep Radiants In Commonwealth.esp
M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp
MechLairPathfindingFix.esp
MiscAnimTweaks.esp
Perennial Power Armor.esp
Perk Up.esp
RemoveBlur.esp
RustDevilRedux.esp
Some_Assembly_Required_Repair_Kits.esp
SAR_Repair_Kits_Nuka.esp
SAR_Repair_Kits_Tesla.esp
SAR_Repair_Kits_VIM.esp
TerrainUndersides.esp
TrueInvisibility.esp
Wetness Shader Fix.esp
LooksMenu.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - SHJ Edit.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
KSHairsFemsheppingRadbeetle.esp
ZeX-BodyGen.esp
FusionGirl.esp
Immersive HUD.esp
WeirdMattressFix.esp
Thrive Redone - Better Power Armor - Redux - Fallout 4 Fixes Patch.esp
Less intrusive tutorial.esp
NukaRadBans.esp
AAF_GrayAnimations.esp
Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp
Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
Atomic Lust.esp
Mutated Lust.esp
SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
rxl_bp70_animations.esp
BraveAnims.esp
SnapdragonAnimations.esp
Rufgt's Animations.esp
AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
ZaZOut4.esp
Behemoth No Cart.esp
BraveAnims_Fix.esp
Deathclaw_nude.esp
ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp
PenPos.esp
SMBehemoth Loincloth.esp
UAP Moans.esp
Zaz Particle Effects.esp
AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp
ModularVaultSuit.esp
ModularVaultSuit - ColourSchemesAddon.esp
PRP.esp
PRP - LOST Audio Tweaks Patch.esp

 

It's not meant to be like this, is it!? The top doesn't look right.

Supposed to be esm, esl and then esp, based on "the fucking manual"

 

Question:

Should I rearrange the few plugins at top? Just want to be sure, esl is new to me and first time playing F4.

 

Thanks in advanced, hopefully makes sense as half a sleep. 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2023 by M.BISON

[izzyknows]

The UFO4P is flagged as an esm, that's why it's mixed in with the ems.

The engine loads esl's after the esm's so forget about them.  Some mods will flag their esp as an esl, which doesn't take up a mod slot, but can be easily moved around in the load order like a regular esp.

 

Oh,

esm are Masters that other mods use resources from and cannot be moved below esp or esl.

esp are normal mods

esl are light mods. they have restrictions on what they can do/contain the others don't.

Edited July 27, 2023 by izzyknows

[M.BISON]

18 hours ago, izzyknows said:

The UFO4P is flagged as an esm, that's why it's mixed in with the ems.

The engine loads esl's after the esm's so forget about them.  Some mods will flag their esp as an esl, which doesn't take up a mod slot, but can be easily moved around in the load order like a regular esp.

 

Oh,

esm are Masters that other mods use resources from and cannot be moved below esp or esl.

esp are normal mods

esl are light mods. they have restrictions on what they can do/contain the others don't.

 

Thanks for the explanation!

 

Was wondering, you say that UFO4P is flagged as an esm but it's showing as an esp, I've hovered over it in MO2 and it doesn't say anything about it being flagged as an esm; unless I missed something?

 

So esl's are safe to ignore in the load order and it shouldn't matter if there in-between esm's like this: 

PPF.esm
Fallout 4 Fixes.esm
LegendaryDropBugfix.esl
BodyTalk3-RaiderNormalsFix.esl
AAF.esm 

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, M.BISON said:

Was wondering, you say that UFO4P is flagged as an esm but it's showing as an esp, I've hovered over it in MO2 and it doesn't say anything about it being flagged as an esm; unless I missed something?

 

You have to open the mod in xEdit to see the flag property. MO's can read the flag properties and sort accordingly.

I don't use MO2 or Vortex, I prefer the simple & easy method, so I don't know IF MO2 can force load an esl, which it shouldn't as the game engine handles it just fine. But in general, just ignore them and let the game handle it.