Anub's and Billyy's SLAL animations not working.

[EndeRappy]

Title, the characters stand in one spot coupled together instead of correctly playing. I've registered all animations many times so far, re-installed different versions of the mod, even installed the FNIS XXL version just in case something's up with that, but nothing's worked so far.
Thank you in advance!

Attaching mods/plugins list and Papyrus log. Do note that some of the SexLab mods were installed manually to ensure they were installed correctly.






 

Papyrus.0.log

[Seijin8]

1 minute ago, EndeRappy said:

even installed the FNIS XXL

 

But did you run FNIS?  It is a program, not a mod.

Do the other sexlab animations work correctly?

 

The list of unmanaged mods is concerning, means you are using a mixture of manual and virtual files, makes it real hard to know what is actually going on in there.

 

FNIS output log would be the most useful bit of information to have.

[Miauzi]

Here, too, the suspicion is that the user installed everything together and never carried out a thorough functional test of the individual mods.

Yes - it all seems like the proverbial "cabbage and turnips".

and a few questions:

Which Sykrim version is it?

Which SKSE is installed and is the game started via it.

Was FINS run BEFORE the game was started? If so - what does the log look like? Please post!

 

[EndeRappy]

5 minutes ago, Seijin8 said:

 

But did you run FNIS?  It is a program, not a mod.

Do the other sexlab animations work correctly?

 

The list of unmanaged mods is concerning, means you are using a mixture of manual and virtual files, makes it real hard to know what is actually going on in there.

 

FNIS output log would be the most useful bit of information to have.

Yes, I ran FNIS several times with admin privileges. 

Other SexLab animations work like More Nasty Critters and a collection of other packs (humanoid stuff), it's just those two packs not working so far.

As for the output log, if I'm understanding this correctly, it's the text in FNIS itself?
If so, then it goes as follows:
 

Quote

FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL   20.07.2023 02:01:53
Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.6.640.0 - D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: Default (99 bones)   male: Default (99 bones)
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  
Patch: "HKX File Compatibility Check Skyrim/SSE"  

Reading Defeat V5 ...     ChAnims:39     CTD:0,5%     pOpt:0,2%
Reading FNISBase V7.6 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0,0%     pOpt:0,0%
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0,0%     pOpt:0,0%
Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ...     ChAnims:94     CTD:1,2%     pOpt:0,6%
Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ...     ChAnims:160     CTD:1,0%     pOpt:0,3%
Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ...     ChAnims:80     CTD:0,5%     pOpt:0,1%
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...     ChAnims:344     CTD:2,2%     pOpt:0,6%
Reading SexLab V1.64 ...     ChAnims:882     CTD:5,6%     pOpt:1,5%
Reading SexLabAP V1.64 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0,9%     pOpt:0,2%
Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ...     ChAnims:5     CTD:0,1%     pOpt:0,0%
Reading SexLabCreature V1.64 ...     ChAnims:177     CTD:1,2%     pOpt:0,3%

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading HCOSWildlife V1.0 ...
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...
Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...
Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ...

 1923 animations for 11 mods successfully included (character)
ChAnims: 1923  CTD:13,2%  pOpt:3,8%  max: 14545  LC: 3459 (max. 26162)

 2013 animations for 5 mods and 42 creatures successfully included.

 

[EndeRappy]

9 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

Here, too, the suspicion is that the user installed everything together and never carried out a thorough functional test of the individual mods.

Yes - it all seems like the proverbial "cabbage and turnips".

and a few questions:

Which Sykrim version is it?

Which SKSE is installed and is the game started via it.

Was FINS run BEFORE the game was started? If so - what does the log look like? Please post!

 

Game version seems to be 1.6.640. 
Installed SKSE for "Current Anniversary Edition build 2.2.3 (game version 1.6.640)" and I run the game via the loader as instructed.
I ran FNIS every mod install and then some.

[Seijin8]

1 hour ago, EndeRappy said:

Yes, I ran FNIS several times with admin privileges. 

Other SexLab animations work like More Nasty Critters and a collection of other packs (humanoid stuff), it's just those two packs not working so far.

As for the output log, if I'm understanding this correctly, it's the text in FNIS itself?
If so, then it goes as follows:
 

 

 

Neither Anubs' or Billyy's animations are listed by FNIS.  They aren't installed where FNIS can find them.

Either they didn't install to where MO can find them, or FNIS isn't being run through MO.

[EndeRappy]

5 hours ago, Seijin8 said:

 

Neither Anubs' or Billyy's animations are listed by FNIS.  They aren't installed where FNIS can find them.

Either they didn't install to where MO can find them, or FNIS isn't being run through MO.

That would be precisely why I installed many of the mods manually.

It's weird for the packs to not be detected right though, as they show up normal in SLAL MCM.

Do I try installing them manually, then?

Update: Forgot to mention the packs install through a fomod which, to my limited knowledge, should mean it's working?

Update2: Just went through my files again and MO seems to be installing the packs to the mods folder in its base directory. Not really sure if that gets us anywhere.

Edited July 20, 2023 by EndeRappy

[Seijin8]

51 minutes ago, EndeRappy said:

That would be precisely why I installed many of the mods manually.

 

Good luck brave explorer, you are on your own.

 

A hybrid manual/virtual install like yours inherits the problems of both methods without getting the advantages of either.  There's a good reason nobody does that.

 

51 minutes ago, EndeRappy said:

It's weird for the packs to not be detected right though, as they show up normal in SLAL MCM.

 

 

Because MO reads those files.  Those are just jsons, their presence doesn't mean FNIS incorporated those animations at all.

 

52 minutes ago, EndeRappy said:

Do I try installing them manually, then?

 

Under no circumstance would I ever tell someone to do that.  If it appears "necessary" then something else is fucked and will stay fucked until you fix it.

 

53 minutes ago, EndeRappy said:

Update: Forgot to mention the packs install through a fomod which, to my limited knowledge, should mean it's working?

 

If your FNIS were being run through MO, sure, should work.  Your output logs show that isn't happening.

 

In MO, you have to enable FNIS to run through the virtual file system using this prompt:
 

Spoiler

 

And do something like this:
 

Spoiler

 

... to generate desktop shortcut that runs FNIS through MO to find all the stuff that you have installed, so that FNIS can find and then rebuild the animation files.

 

Given your hybrid setup, I have no idea if that will even work.

 

Good luck.

[EndeRappy]

16 minutes ago, Seijin8 said:

 

Good luck brave explorer, you are on your own.

 

A hybrid manual/virtual install like yours inherits the problems of both methods without getting the advantages of either.  There's a good reason nobody does that.

 

 

 

Because MO reads those files.  Those are just jsons, their presence doesn't mean FNIS incorporated those animations at all.

 

 

Under no circumstance would I ever tell someone to do that.  If it appears "necessary" then something else is fucked and will stay fucked until you fix it.

 

 

If your FNIS were being run through MO, sure, should work.  Your output logs show that isn't happening.

 

In MO, you have to enable FNIS to run through the virtual file system using this prompt:
 

  Hide contents

 

And do something like this:
 

  Hide contents

 

... to generate desktop shortcut that runs FNIS through MO to find all the stuff that you have installed, so that FNIS can find and then rebuild the animation files.

 

Given your hybrid setup, I have no idea if that will even work.

 

Good luck.

For all things unholy, it worked.
I'll try installing things through MO from now on.
Thank you, you magnificent bastard.

[Miauzi]

How they can solve all this?

My honest opinion on this -> not with their approach so far.

From my point of view they have two basic work mistakes

1) they don't know how to install and organise their mods.

What are they using? ModOrganiser 2?

either they really learn to use it, and that is not easy and requires a lot of their free time - which they then don't have to play with.

or they switch to another mod organiser like "Vortex".

which is easier to use ... but also has its problems that you have to learn to deal with.

all in all this would be a faster way but not free of stumbling blocks

(I know what I am talking about as I use it myself)

 

2) To continue to tinker with your existing game installation will not bring you any further without actually profound knowledge in modifying a game.

so you can continue to "sink" your free time here or you can go the way of a clean new installation of the game ... where you "physically" delete the installation directory of Skyrim beforehand.

We call this way -> "atomic option" - but this is the only way to make sure that there is not an erroneously installed or uninstalled remainder somewhere in one of the directories - which interferes with the re-installation.

and then you should really proceed step by step and test each complex mod extensively - before you install the next one

Even with a short list of 100 mods, this can take up to 1 week - but this is the only way to find out whether the game still runs without errors after a mod installation.