Beast race animation alignment

[Fsfdss]

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00  Oblivion.esm
01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]
03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
04  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.3.3]
05  Lovers with PK.esm
06  LoversCreature.esm
07  Toaster Says Share v3.esm
08  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.4]
**  UOPS Additional Changes.esp
09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.2]
++  USIPS Additional Changes.esp
0B  Immersive Weapons.esp
0C  CarahsCaravanRedux.esp  [Version 1.2]
0D  Better Cities .esp  [Version 5.3.0]
**  LoadingScreens.esp
0E  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.34]
0F  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.34]
10  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.34]
11  Crowded Roads Advanced.esp  [Version 1.3]
**  Crowded Roads Advanced Vwalk.esp
12  Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
13  Streamline 3.1.esp
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
14  EY_BM_Armory.esp
15  kdRhazed.esp
16  Thieves Arsenal.esp
17  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
18  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
19  Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp
1A  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.6]
1B  TOTW.esp
1C  TOTWcamp.esp
1D  Knights.esp
**  Knights Vwalk.esp
**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
1E  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1F  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
20  xulTheHeath.esp
21  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
22  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
23  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
24  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
**  xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp
25  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
26  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.4]
**  xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp
27  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
28  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
29  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
2A  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
2B  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
2C  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
2D  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
**  xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp
2E  xulPantherRiver.esp
2F  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
30  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
**  xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp
31  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
**  xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp
32  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
33  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
34  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
**  xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp
35  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
**  xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp
36  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
37  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]
**  xulCliffsOfAnvil Vwalk.esp
38  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
39  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
3A  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.0]
**  xulTheEasternPeaks Vwalk.esp
3B  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]
3C  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
3D  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]
3E  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
3F  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
40  LoversRaperS.esp
41  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v4a]
42  LoversCreature.esp
43  LoversMB2.esp
44  LoversSlaveTrader.esp
45  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
46  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.2.1]
47  Basic Personal Hygiene.esp  [Version 2.9]
48  BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp
49  DuplicateItemSpell.esp
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4B  Advanced Magecraft.esp
4C  SetBody.esp
4D  StealthOverhaul.esp
4E  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]
++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]
++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.76]
4F  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
50  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
51  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.0]
52  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
53  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
**  Better Cities Resources Vwalk.esp
54  Better Cities - All Natural.esp
55  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 5.1.2]
**  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
56  Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp
57  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
**  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
58  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
++  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
59  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
++  Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
**  Sensual Walks.esp
**  Sensual Walks SI.esp
**  Sensual Walks SI DS + GS.esp
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
5A  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.34]
5B  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
5C  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
5D  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

Every Lovers plugin works as intended and I have no problems or excess crashing, the animations are properly aligned minus the necessary clipping from size difference. However, when initiating sex with Argonians, certain animations move them away from my character and rotate them drastically. I think that it's a problem with the beast skeleton, but I'm using the LAPF one. I'll update this post with a screenshot in a few minutes.

[gregathit]

Ok, before I spend any time looking at this, I need you to tell me exactly which animations this is happening on.  When it happens, hit the console key (~ tilde by default).  

 

My "suspicion" is that you didn't clean out your ini and kf files prior to installing the LAPF and are looking at old animations.  However, report back which animations you are seeing this on and I will check it out.

 

The reason I mention this is skeletons should have zero bearing on what direction or alignment animations have.  Especially since the skeletonbeast.nif file is exactly the same as the skeleton.nif file......

[Fsfdss]

Every single motion in the range of 115 - 130 and several ones earlier, between the properly working motions. I didn't check further than that yet. For comparison, the same motions worked perfectly well with an Imperial. I tried using the "Fix Bugs" and then "Fix Animations" in Lovers Settings, but to no avail. I also purged all of my customized settings, but that didn't help either.

[Dusk_]

Anything that changes the default Idle animation will screw up the sex animation.

 

Alternatively...if the character is stuck sneaking, or something similar, it will cause the same issues.

[Fsfdss]

I don't have anything that does that. Sensual Walks change the walks, but not the idle anims. Besides, every animation that's broken for Argonians works on non-beast races, and the NPC shown in the comparison screenshot is also affected by Sensual Walks.

[gregathit]

Sensual walks isn't going to mess with it.  I run it and have no issues at all.

 

 

Try as I might, I can not replicate what you are seeing.

 

Are you using an existing saved game?  Perhaps one that was made prior to installing the LAPF?  If so then that could be the whole issue.  Sex alignment adjustments are store into your saved game and thus could be screwing things up.

 

 

Try starting a brand new game and retest.  The Argonians and Khajiits function just fine in my game.  No different than the other races.

 

 

Other things to check:

- Make certain you disabled all Lovers esm and esp files prior to building your bashed patch.  Having them enabled pulls in scripts and can break Lovers.

- If all of those fail then you may need to see if some mod has changed the skeleton that is being used (or made some other change).  Plugins to check are things like:  

4D  StealthOverhaul.esp

4E  RenGuardOverhaul.esp

50  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]

++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

To check, disable your bashed patch and the plugins above (one at a time or all at once) then start a new game and see if you still have the problem.

 

 

[Fsfdss]

Seems like the problem was with the old save, plus it was made even crazier by Ocheeva entering sneak mode right before the animation. Sorry for posting a question before researching it myself. It's all good now.

[gregathit]

No problem. 

 

Have fun!