LAPF

[jimbug]

Hello World! Does anyone still use this Mod? I've installed it and it is a nice piece of Work. Thanks Greg😃. But I do have an issue with the enhanced Skeletons! They make my Character Float in First Person View , I can Replace the Enhanced Skeletons with UniversalSkeletonNIF181-37596-1-81.7z and my Toon will be on the Floor, But the Hands will be Pulling on Air, and If I put the Enhanced Skeletons Back my Toon will play the Animations as they were meant to be played but my toon will be floating, Somewhere in these 65 Pages this might be answered?  But if someone does know how to remedy this please Let The World in on your Secret? 

[TDA5]

4 hours ago, jimbug said:

Hello World! Does anyone still use this Mod? I've installed it and it is a nice piece of Work. Thanks Greg😃. But I do have an issue with the enhanced Skeletons! They make my Character Float in First Person View , I can Replace the Enhanced Skeletons with UniversalSkeletonNIF181-37596-1-81.7z and my Toon will be on the Floor, But the Hands will be Pulling on Air, and If I put the Enhanced Skeletons Back my Toon will play the Animations as they were meant to be played but my toon will be floating, Somewhere in these 65 Pages this might be answered?  But if someone does know how to remedy this please Let The World in on your Secret? 

Try my skeleton, it has a limited number of bones, but there is a bolt, but it does not have wings, and it not for a Death Reflex
(Works on clean versions with LPK)

 

skeleton.nif

skeletonbeast.nif

[jimbug]

Thanks So Much TDAS! I know you had put in some work to get these too work. Much appreciated. Got a Stretched Penis but I can fix that, Thought I was going to have to uninstall this mod for everything I searched for with Google there were no help, Most didn't even know that the skeleton was the culprit, Again thanks so much. Can I put a Link to your files on Nexus where the skeleton's are? Are is that against the Rules ?

[fejeena]

 

You have had a post about the skeletal/stretching problem here since 2014.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbb-load-order-sorting-espesm-cleaning-cs-cse-body-stretching/

scroll down to     Penis/Breast stretching  ( BBB Mods and/or LAPF)

 

And about more problems with LAPF: missing animations, sex animations don't work, sex can not start error, . . .

Edited March 1, 2024 by fejeena

[jimbug]

I Started Not to Breathe Into This but then I realize that there are others out there that would get confused by this post so Lets Fix it.

first fejeena I don't know why you responded to this but ok I never said I had a Stretching Problem to my knowledge? but if you read my post I said it isn't a problem I can fix that (Got a Stretched Penis but I can fix that)

Fact Is Folks I don't Have to Fix it nor do you it's already fixed for us in in gregathit LAPF version 1.6a1 Mod.... Once you install this mod and it starts it will install a few spells now if fejeena wants me to uninstall this mod just so I can get every spell it installs I can do that, but the Spell you need to select is Sexual Exploits (Lovers Settings) Cast that Spell once the Menu Comes up, Select Settings for Body and (Un)Dressing, Penis Display Settings, Slofs Boners! V5 (Normal) Works for me the settings are there see what works for you!!!

fejeena Please Let the Modders Mod 

TDA5 Thanks for the Great Work on The Skeletons They Work Great

Let the Animators Animate Great Work gregathit Keep it Up

and by All Means let Us Gamers just Have Fun and Enjoy the Game

[TDA5]

4 hours ago, jimbug said:

Thanks So Much TDAS! I know you had put in some work to get these too work. Much appreciated. Got a Stretched Penis but I can fix that, Thought I was going to have to uninstall this mod for everything I searched for with Google there were no help, Most didn't even know that the skeleton was the culprit, Again thanks so much. Can I put a Link to your files on Nexus where the skeleton's are? Are is that against the Rules ?

What's the point?
Nexus is a commercial organization, i.e. it makes a profit on its site.
Mods or games of a sexual nature do not earn money.
This makes no sense.

[fejeena]

You  wrote "Got a Stretched Penis but I can fix that"

Dear xxxxxxx, the stretching problem is the stretching of penis, buttocks and breast caused by an incorrect skeleton. Penis and butt only exist in the LAPF lower body and only the LAPF skeleton works, no other skeleton.

 

And the LAPF setting MUST be Slof's boners! v3/v4 (Automatic) . Only this setting works with the LAPF lowerbody and the LAPF animations. If you use a different setting you get a lowerbody without animated penis, and of course the LAPF animations can not animate the penis.  Yes you don't have a stretched penis anymore because you use a lowerbody without penis bones. 

But LAPF = Lovers Animated Penis Framework. And that's why "Slof's boners! v3/v4 (Automatic)" is the setting you have after installation. Change it and you a have "Lovers not-animated Penis Framework" .

You did "Fixed the stretched penis and disabled the animated Penis"

You could also use the old Lovers with PK that didn't have an animated penis.

Your "fix" has one advantage, to fill the empty animation numbers you just install the "Revised BBB 11-200 Animations Pack 12-12-12.7z" from Lovers with PK, all 200 human-human animations without penis and butt bones which you don't need with the lowerbody you use. 

 

And I know you don't believe me, so take a look here

Spoiler

                                                                                     From the LAPF thread, page 1

 

I have included this note from gregathit in my thread. Right penis setting and archive invalidated.

 

 

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You don't have to uninstall anything, I didn't say that anywhere.

If you have penis stretching, a mod has overwritten the LAPF skeleton and you have to install the LAPF skeleton again.

Or your archive invalidate does not work and the game still use the original game skeleton from the packed bsa. Not working archive invalidate can be caused by Game is in C : / program files (x86)

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I wrote this post "oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbb-load-order-sorting-espesm-cleaning-cs-cse-body-stretching" because people are constantly having problems because they installed their game incorrectly or because they don't read the Lovers Mod readmes.  There are also same tips from gregathit in the post.

It started with an expansion of gregathit's post  https://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ and got bigger over the years.

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" Please Let the Modders Mod "

Fine, then please don't use any of my Lovers mods. Let me mod . . . but not for you.

 

Edited March 2, 2024 by fejeena

[jimbug]

LOL I didn't come here to be Bitch Slapped Guys! I came for help! TDA5 this was the point no one new how to fix it but you did! I just wonted help others.

LOL fejeena of course there's a problem with the Skelton I installed TDA5 to stop the Floating Issue

 

 

[Saraniamic]

Hello, everyone. I understand that this mod is really old but did it ever receive any new animations? This site, as well as the community, is full of very enthusiastic individuals so I was hoping someone got around to creating new animations for this mod.

[TDA5]

5 hours ago, Saraniamic said:

Hello, everyone. I understand that this mod is really old but did it ever receive any new animations? This site, as well as the community, is full of very enthusiastic individuals so I was hoping someone got around to creating new animations for this mod.

 

[MoonDollie]

Hi! I apologize in advance for my inattentiveness, but maybe someone can clue me in. It's about the male body. It has seams and gaps. The top doesn't fit the size of the bottom (different body options have the same problem). English is not my first language and maybe I misunderstood the instructions, sorry. I also tried to read the comments here, but I couldn't get through half of the pages.

Edited May 26, 2024 by MoonDollie

[fejeena]

Male body

you installed  https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/40532/

Install the body and the armor clothing replacer.

There can be small textures seams but no gaps.

 

When do you have gaps?

-with full nude ?  there can be no gaps.

-Or part nude and part with armor or clothes. But clothes for a different body.  e.g. Roberts scrawny body  with  Roberts Muscular armor/clothes replacer  = gap between upper and lowerbody.

-Or during sex ? during sex the lowerbody is replaced by a body with erect penis. The body you use and body during sex must be the same. You set the body during Sex in Lovers setting spell in game.

 

With LAPF you should use Roberts Muscular. The armor/clothes replacer is Roberts Muscular. The default LAPF body during sex is Roberts Muscular ( then you don't need to set the body with the Lovers setting spell in game )

 

female body is working?

 

archive invalidate working ?  This prevents the game from using original body and textures instead of the installed replacers.

The simplest archive invalidate is SkyBSA ( an OBSE plugin)

A wrong installed game can  cause problems ! Game never in C / : program files

read  https://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbb-load-order-sorting-espesm-cleaning-cs-cse-body-stretching/

Yes sorry a lot to read.   And read Mod readmes !

[MoonDollie]

Thank you for your answer! I always read the instructions in the archives. The problem appear exactly during the sex animation when the bottom part is replaced. I'm using the Roberts scrawny body, the settings have this version of the body (page No. 2), so I don't understand what's wrong. That's why I posted here. I'll try uninstalling everything and installing it again. The female body is perfectly fine, the mod itself works great too. Thanks again for the prompt reply! I hope I can solve this strange problem (it never happened before, I did the same thing a long time ago so i am confused, hahaha)

Edited May 27, 2024 by MoonDollie

[fejeena]

You have the Roberts scrawny body installed with the Roberts Mod ?

And in game you use the Lovers setting spell and set the right "lowerbody during sex"

 

!!! There is no Roberts scrawny armor/clothing replacer !!! The armor/clothing replacer you install is for Roberts Muscular .  If the player or NPC  wears a shirt/upperbody armor during sex you have a gap if there is visible skin in the hip area.

 

I just check it. the Roberts v5 scrawny upper body  and feet  and the Lovers lowerbody fit together perfectly without a seam or gap.

 

[MoonDollie]

It seems like the body type settings don't work in my game and Roberts Muscular bottom body is always used 🤯 I don't know what the reason is, so I gave up and now use the standard version (Musсular). And there are no gaps. I feel really dumb but at least the visual problem is solved! Thank you for your time, I really appreciate it  ❤️

 

Edited May 27, 2024 by MoonDollie

[necromancycorvidae]

hey everyone, was wondering if anyone could help me. i've downloaded lovers just fine in the past and i have no idea what's going on. when i open the game up, i get an error message that is almost all complete gibberish. it says "Lovers with PK.esp" and then a string of letters and symbols. since it's gibberish i have no idea what the problem is. the message continuously pops up so i have to close the game. thanks!!

 

 

[fejeena]

6 hours ago, necromancycorvidae said:

hey everyone, was wondering if anyone could help me. i've downloaded lovers just fine in the past and i have no idea what's going on. when i open the game up, i get an error message that is almost all complete gibberish. it says "Lovers with PK.esp" and then a string of letters and symbols. since it's gibberish i have no idea what the problem is. the message continuously pops up so i have to close the game. thanks!!

 

 

Oblivion game instaled right?

Lovers/LAPF installed right?

OBSE installed!

Right Load order ?

 

read

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbbmod-sorting-and-cleaningcs-cse-body-stretching/?do=findComment&comment=915257

 

[necromancycorvidae]

14 hours ago, fejeena said:

Oblivion game instaled right?

Lovers/LAPF installed right?

OBSE installed!

Right Load order ?

 

read

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbbmod-sorting-and-cleaningcs-cse-body-stretching/?do=findComment&comment=915257

 

thanks, i've uninstalled and reinstalled things and i narrowed it down to specifically LoversRaperS and LoversPaybandit. everything else works fine with those uninstalled

[TAU-r3]

I apologize if there are any mistakes, Google translator was used.

Does anyone have .ini settings for m/m animations? I know that all animations are used regardless of gender, but many of them are designed for m/f and look strange when used with m/m.

[fejeena]

4 hours ago, TAU-r3 said:

I apologize if there are any mistakes, Google translator was used.

Does anyone have .ini settings for m/m animations? I know that all animations are used regardless of gender, but many of them are designed for m/f and look strange when used with m/m.

No...

But you can test all animations in game...

Or you can watch screenshots of all animations

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/8232-the-daedra-sutra-lovers-with-pk-animation-collection/

Do not install the Mod ! ! ! you have all the animations.  Download "Daedra Sutra Animated Penis Animations"  ( you don't need the other two downloads )

You unpack the Mod in a folder and open the folder "Screenshots - Animated Penis Animations"

 

You can create copies of animations you like and overwrite the animations you don't like.  You have to rename the copy to the number you want to replace/overwrite. The ini in the ini folder and the 4 Def and 4 Off kf files  in meshes\characters\_male\idleanims\ani2

Most Lovers Mods use random animations during sex. You could delete ini files of animations you don't want to use and the mods will not use these animations...

But some Mods use specific ani numbers and a missing ini/ani will cause errors when the sex starts.

So better replace animations. And there are about 30 free animation numbers in LAPF you should also fill with copies. Some old Lovers Mods might use these Free animation numbers ( in old "Lovers with PK" all 200 animation numbers were filled)

Only with 200 animations you are save from errors.

 

You find a patch to fill the free numbers . . . but maybe not the animations you like for male-male sex.  And more information on how to rename animation copies.

Here scroll down to Missing Animations  ( Lovers Sex animations)

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbb-load-order-sorting-espesm-cleaning-cs-cse-body-stretching/#comment-915257

 

And some new animations you find here

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/18277-lovers-animations-workshop-new-thread/

You can ignore most of the pages because most of it is already in LAPF.   About the last 10-15 pages are new stuff.  BUT hetero and female-female animations.

[WeebtrashMcweebs]

On 12/5/2013 at 7:03 PM, gregathit said:

The LAPF skeleton is nothing more than Growlf's Universal Skeleton with some dick bones added to make the animated dick\futa meshes work for the animations.  

And yes, it does have separate butt bones that bounce\move independent of the breasts.  

So then, the question must be asked... why the heck does step 2 of the installation instructions say to install the universal skeleton before installing LAPF, if LAPF is going to completely replace every bit of said universal skeleton? Seems like a waste of time and only serves to cause confusion.

[fejeena]

16 hours ago, WeebtrashMcweebs said:

So then, the question must be asked... why the heck does step 2 of the installation instructions say to install the universal skeleton before installing LAPF, if LAPF is going to completely replace every bit of said universal skeleton? Seems like a waste of time and only serves to cause confusion.

The " first person skeleton" was not in the first LAPF downloads.

 

But you need it to test your game.

You install Oblivion and then you test your game. If it does not work, why install Mods?

Then you install the male and female body replacer. The female HGEC body need a BBB skeleton. That's why you install the Universal Skeleton .

You install HGEC body textures and the HGEC and Roberts male armor-clothes replacer. And the BBB animations.

And then you test your game if the body replacer and BBB works.

 

Why install LAPF if the base Mods you need doesn't work?

 

Of course, you could be one of those people who install everything at once, and also 4-5 Lovers Mods, and then post "Why doesn't it work? I don't know what I did wrong"

You always test after a few new mods and if something doesn't work you just need to uninstall the last mods you installed and then try again, this time one mod at a time.

Then you know exactly where the error is and can post "What am I doing wrong with Mod xy?"

But nobody can help you if you have 20 or more mods installed at once.  . . .  Then you have to install everything again, and you realize what really is a waste of time.

So install the Universal Skeleton and test your game before you start to install LAPF and 1-2 Lovers Mods for testing.

 

[onkledonkle]

Hey, I looked all over with multiple keywords in this topic and I can't seem to figure this out: the post-sex messages at the top of the screen randomly show that the top character is female, even though both are male. I've tried looking everywhere for where the messages are stored in order to manually edit them, but can't find them even in the .esm and .esp files. Is this something that can be edited? Thank you!

[fejeena]

51 minutes ago, onkledonkle said:

Hey, I looked all over with multiple keywords in this topic and I can't seem to figure this out: the post-sex messages at the top of the screen randomly show that the top character is female, even though both are male. I've tried looking everywhere for where the messages are stored in order to manually edit them, but can't find them even in the .esm and .esp files. Is this something that can be edited? Thank you!

??  post the message  and the Lovers Mods you have so we can find the message.

Dialogues? AdultPlayPlus has the dialogues that you see during sex with all Lovers Sex. Dialogues for different situations, like rape, first time, consensual sex, slave, . . .  random for the situation. Male and female. But some dialogues are "wrong". was machine translated (Japanese to English)  and sometimes the gender is wrong or it is not clear who is fucking and who is being fucked.    ! There are 2000+ dialogues in the Mods.

       

If it is no dialogue then it is a message from a script.

 

Of course you can edit it.

 

Best post a screenshot and your load order. And tell us which mod you use to start the sex. LoversRapers, AdultPlayPlus, Hookers, . . .

Edited November 13, 2024 by fejeena

[onkledonkle]

Thank you, I'll upload those when i get a chance!