phayzon11 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I generally prefer to sort out my own issues, but it seems my success at modding FNV has not helped me at all for Skyrim. Mainly I have been experiencing CTDs with extreme frequency. But I more or less have it boiled down to two issues. 1. CTD on loot. Whenever I "Loot All" or really loot anything clothing related off of a body (not purchasing a new piece from a store) Skyrim will CTD. I use the recommended mods from the Sexlab information page (SOS, UNPB, and XP32's skeleton). With no other mods installed, CTD. With a fresh install, CTD on loot. With looting one a time, CTD on clothing loot. With looting potions ect. no CTD. Am I correct to assume my issue lies with the body textures? If so, what is the workaround? It seems highly illogical for so many people to use a body replacer if it causes these issues, which is why I ask. 2. CTD after being in outdoor cells for short period of time. Random Example: After finishing Unbound, I usually will CTD once before finding the Guardian Stones, and again when midway between the stones and Riverwood. I use BOSS for my load order. And manually trial and error unrecognized ones. I realize it's entirely possible that I am running Skyrim ambitiously, with too many mods. This is what I am perhaps hoping to clear up, with some help. My default for Skyrim is Ultra High, but I have tried everything from Low to High (AA always off) Firstly, my computer specs, I apologize, I do not know what all is needed in this area ------------------System Information------------------Time of this report: 9/12/2013, 23:55:11 Machine name: Phay-PC Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130708-1532) Language: English (Regional Setting: English)System Manufacturer: Alienware System Model: Aurora-R4 BIOS: BIOS Date: 10/26/12 12:23:22 Ver: 04.06.05 Processor: Intel® Core i7-3820 CPU @ 3.60GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.6GHz Memory: 32768MB RAMAvailable OS Memory: 32684MB RAM Page File: 4292MB used, 61073MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 11 ---------------Display Devices--------------- Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 Second, my load order. For time consuming purposes, I just said Immersive Settlements and Patrols, but all of them are checked. Load OrderSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1SexLab.esm=1ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1SexLabAroused.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1ApachiiHairMales.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1Deus Mons.esm=1NPCs.esm=1Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1SkyMoMod.esm=1SPIKE.esm=1Breezehome-hf-CTD-fix.esp=1FixedEyeAdaption.esp=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1SexLab Solutions.esp=1LoversComfort.esp=1SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp=1SexLabGuild.esp=1SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1SexLab Romance.esp=1Semirealistichouse.esp=1MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1 ClimatesofTameriel.esp=1 Immersive Settlements.esp=1 Immersive Patrols.esp=1Serana.esp=1SplashofRain.esp=1AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp=1AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1AK- A Friend of Time.esp=1BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp=1BlackwoodCompanyHall.esp=1CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1Deus Mons_WithNPCs.esp=1FortDawnguardEnhanced.esp=1Hunting in Skyrim.esp=1Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1MissingApprentices.esp=1Helgen Reborn.esp=1Rashiik.esp=1ResearchThief.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1SoS.esp=1 SoS-Patch.esp=1 SoS-Dawnguard.esp=1 SoS-Dragonborn.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1WhiterunAlivePiano.esp=1SoS - The Dungeons.esp=1SoS - The Wilds.esp=1SoS - Civilization.esp=1ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp=1Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp=1ESFCompanions.esp=1WerewolfMastery.esp=1MidasSkyrim.esp=1Nature of the beast.esp=1dovahkiinrelax.esp=1The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1The Ningheim.esp=13DNPC.esp=1HothFollower.esp=1Inigo.esp=1Atvir.esp=1 SOS- The Wilds- CoTPatch SOS- Civilization- CoTPatch I apologize if my issue is "obvious" I just would very much like to enjoy the immersion and experience using sexlab, as well as other mods I enjoy all together. Link to comment
lidowxxx Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 That's not really a long list of mods, just WAY TOO MANY script heavy mods there. Skyrim is very fickle when it comes to handling mods that are dependent on scripts, and you have A LOT of them, SOS, all those sexlab mods, inconsequential NPCs, helgen reborn, midas magic...... and more importantly many of those sexlab mods you've installed are just WIP or at an experimental stage, which means you really should not introduce to your saves. If you want a stable modded game, you will want those mods as few as possible. First of all, get rid of all the dD-enhanced blood plugins, they practically attach scripts to every npcs in a fight and it can be especially bad when there are many enemies/dead bodies lying around, they are known to cause CTDs to people. Then start wiping out other of those scripted mods, then start a new game, this is important because the mods you uninstall will continue to be tied to your saves, the only way to be rid of them safely is to go back to the save without them being activated. The sheer number of mods shouldn't affect stability much as long as they are problem-free and well organized, I had somewhere around 120 to 130 mods in my last play through and I rarely experienced CTDs, I know it's not terribly a lot compared to those who run over 200+ mods, but it's still quite a lot and my game was very stable. Besides HDT high heel system and high heels mods, player head tracking, pinup poser and a few others, most of my other mods(armor mods mostly) are script-free. If I find a mod to my liking and it happens to be heavily-scripted, like a quest mod, I always make a manual save, then install the mod, play through it, and then uninstall the mod and go back to the save I made, it's a 100% safe practice and has been suggested by many others. Link to comment
MikeMetal Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 As lidowxxx said, remove that dD-enhanced blood plugin. It's nothing but trouble, just use its blood textures if you like them. Also try disable the "schlongify" option or whatever in SoS menu while general playing Skyrim. Use it only when needed. It can wreck papyrus as it targets every male around you. Link to comment
Veladarius Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 OK, does the crash happen when male or females are nude? Did you install SOS before or after the XPMS skeleton? Link to comment
phayzon11 Posted September 13, 2013 Author Share Posted September 13, 2013 I appreciate the suggestions, truly. I will test these suggestions today. No one yet has mentioned my computer being an issue, and that makes my pretty happy on its own. If I get this sorted out and reduce my crashes, should I continue to run on medium settings? Or will it be safe to go to High or Ultra? I have no CPU issue, it usually stays around 29-33% when playing on Ultra (unmodded) I have redownloaded Skyrim fresh (just in case) and have monkeyed around a bit. I apologize for not being all to clear on a few things. Firstly, I only use scripted quest type mods (Like Helgen Reborn) on a fresh save, then uninstall it and reload the original hard save. Secondly, I never quite understood the whole scripts deal, may I have a little more clarification as to their actual impact on the game? For example, Sounds of Skyrim has scripts, but it seems a very small amount. Is that, or will it be an issue? Is there a realistic point where it becomes a detriment? Such as two scripted mods, or four? Does it also apply to added companions? I'm incredibly fond of Inigo, and it would essentially ruin my characters RP if I couldn't use him. OK, does the crash happen when male or females are nude? Did you install SOS before or after the XPMS skeleton? I believe so, since I would basically striping them, it is logical to assume their being naked is what sparks the crash. It happens with both male and female bodies. So I will assume I installed XPMS first. I assume that is the fault? I will reinstall the opposite way around and test that. Link to comment
Veladarius Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Install XPMS then SOS as XPMS has skeletons for both male and female and SOS needs to replace the male skeletons. Link to comment
Phygnos Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 It definitely sounds like a skeleton problem. You can try this http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/36923/ and see if it fixes it. Use an installer program so that it keeps a backup and override everything the new skeleton asks to override. Link to comment
phayzon11 Posted September 13, 2013 Author Share Posted September 13, 2013 Install XPMS then SOS as XPMS has skeletons for both male and female and SOS needs to replace the male skeletons. It definitely sounds like a skeleton problem. You can try this http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/36923/ and see if it fixes it. Use an installer program so that it keeps a backup and override everything the new skeleton asks to override. It appears I was simply installing the mods (and patch) in the wrong order, thank you both. That takes care of one of my issues. My CTDs have cut down significantly, but I am wondering about using a few script containing mods simultaneously. For example using: Sexlab Sexlab-Romance Interesting NPCs Inigo Hoth As my only scripted mods (excluding the scripts from SoS, come hell or high water I'm keeping my body mods). Does this seem too much? Link to comment
Veladarius Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I run far more scripted mods than that and my game is pretty stable. The mods you want to limit are ones with scripts that affect large numbers of people at once or ones that may overlap. The 2 mods that give me the most issues are Random Attack for SexLab and Sanguines Debauchery for SexLab. They will both run fine but I have some random CTDs when running them, especially both at the same time. As you can see I have quite a few running: GameMode=SkyrimSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1ApachiiHairMales.esm=1Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=13rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1hdtHighHeel.esm=1JSwords.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1Omegared99-Compilation.esm=1Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1SexLab.esm=1SPIKE.esm=1TravellersOfSkyrim.esm=1ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1xazBondage.esm=1HentaiPregnancy.esm=1SexLabAroused.esm=1ETaC - RESOURCES.esm=1TERAArmors.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1HighResTexturePack01.esp=1HighResTexturePack02.esp=1HighResTexturePack03.esp=1Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1RelightingSkyrim.esp=1Relighting Skyrim - Update.esp=1Relighting Skyrim - HearthFire.esp=1Relighting Skyrim - Dragonborn.esp=1Orc&ElfFix4TBBP.esp=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1SplashofRain.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1_pocketempirebuilder.esp=1AK- Placeable Statics.esp=1ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp=1buttplug-calyps.esp=1Craft, Temper, Smelt.esp=1Dead Body Collision.esp=1fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp=1ItemRewardsForBounties.esp=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-3.esp=1LFox Blacksmiths Have Metals.esp=1Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1LoversComfort.esp=1LoversHook.esp=1mcCampingLite.esp=1Moss Rocks.esp=1Real Clouds.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1Skyrim Expanded Loot Tables.esp=1Svs Super Collection Jewelry.esp=1TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp=1ZazResources.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1vAutosaveManager.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1iHUD.esp=1Customizable Camera.esp=1Grimy Utilities Interface.esp=1BBP_ArmorPack.esp=0BBP_ArmorPack2.esp=0bobsarmory.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=1Earrings Set1.esp=1ElvenWeaponry.esp=1Gatti14Yumiko.esp=1hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1Insanity's Shields.esp=1JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1LadyKdCirclets.esp=1Lanterns.esp=1Nicoroshi Creations.esp=1Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp=1PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp=1PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp=1Really Radiant Raiment.esp=1TERA Weapons.esp=1UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp=13rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp=13rdEraWeapMoS-rareCraft.esp=1zarias_restraints.esp=1DragonSwarms.esp=1ERSO 30 - 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Live Another Life.esp=1TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp=1BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1Map Markers Complete.esp=1TERAArmors.esp=1TERAArmors - Leveled Lists.esp=1Devious Devices - Chastity.esp=1CrossbowsRevamped.esp=1UnlockUniqueEnchantments.esp=1BetterMagic_FULL.esp=1xazBondage.esp=1DeadlyDragons.esp=1DeadlyMonsters.esp=1SexLabZaZAnimations.esp=1SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp=1SexLabProcreation.esp=1SexLabDefeat.esp=1MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1SexLab Solutions.esp=1SMPC.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1_zzhairscombined.esp=1HairCombo1.esp=1TradeBarter.esp=1HPSoulGemBirth.esp=1mslZaZArachnophobia.esp=1No more butch females - Vanilla.esp=1Vampire_NoSunDamage_Hoods&Helmets.esp=1NN_ElvishDresses.esp=1SkyHeels.esp=1SummerRobeNM.esp=1RRElphintos.esp=1bestrape.esp=1CarlottaValentiaHappyEnding.esp=1OblHairsCombined.esp=1SGHairPackCombined.esp=1ETaC - Villages Complete.esp=1Tongueswcript.esp=1mortenhairs.esp=1GrassOnSteroids_Short.esp=1Flowing Cape.esp=1Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp=1zzTravellerHoods.esp=1zzAharaPOTWHood-Hair.esp=1TravelMounts.esp=1PrivateNeeds.esp=1PrivateNeeds-Sexlab.esp=1PrivateNeeds-RND.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1NausicaaWeps.esp=1sword_rapiers.esp=1LPSleep.esp=1Upgraded Daedric Artifacts.esp=1ShezHelGreenhouse.esp=1Swift Steeds Replacer.esp=1NS_Eilhart_Dress.esp=1BBP Armors 3.esp=0Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp=1GauldurAmuletUpgrade.esp=1Player Size Adjuster.esp=1BAMM.esp=0BammPreg1.esp=0o3dDeviceBondage.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1NewmillerPiercings2.esp=1NewmillerPiercings3.esp=1Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp=1Osare GothicLolita.esp=1LiFE.esp=1westninja.esp=1HISvalleAmor.esp=1enb_reference.esp=1 Link to comment
aryan826 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 could you use this mod, so you wouldn't have to start a fresh save? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/? Link to comment
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