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Hi there, I am new to this site, and I'm sorry if this has been asked before but...

 

When I have the defeat plugin enabled on my mod manager (NMM) it will not allow skyrim to get past the load screen, it just ctd's

 

Would anyone be able to help me with this?  Also, the animations don't seem to trigger for consensual animation.

 

Thanks a ton in advance!

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Firstly, thanks for the speedy reply!

 

I am very new to modding, and I am banging my head against things that are likely second nature to you folks.  I don't know what BOSS is, nor how to use it to check my load order...although I do have the load order listed on my NMM plugin screen.  Do you, by any chance, know what the correct load order is for the defeated plugin?

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GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Update.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
SPIKE.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
LoversCreature.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
SkyUI.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=0
SexLab Romance.esp=1
multifollowerlite.esp=1
betterfemalesbybella.esp=1
calientesvanillaarmor - banditpack slim.esp=1
modruby.esp=1
schwertleite set.esp=1
quest_sorcery.esp=1
daedriccorset.esp=1
nocturnal.esp=1
disablefasttravel.esp=1
dibella_priestesses.esp=1
litelongertorches.esp=1
realistic lighting.esp=1
hjra.esp=1
climatesoftamriel.esp=1
almalexia regalia.esp=1
lakeviewmanorupgrades.esp=1
better vampires.esp=1
erinfollowerdata2.esp=1
erinfollowerdata.esp=1
Real Clouds.esp=1
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1
ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp=1
ApachiiHairStyles.esp=1
Field Mage Outfit.esp=1
BasicHumanNeeds.esp=1
_admod.esp=1
SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp=1
WATER.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1
SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp=1
WATER Plants.esp=1
WATER DB Waves.esp=1
Bijin Housecarls.esp=1
zzDraugrParts.esp=1
NewCrazyMag1.esp=1
Topless Ragged Trousers.esp=1
SVS LadyTemplar.esp=1
Ebony_circlet.esp=1
Leather Armors.esp=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
GECK.O_Skyrim_MoreMales.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
SplashofRain.esp=1
TouringCarriages.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
DeadlyDragons.esp=1
DeadlyMonsters.esp=1
SoS - The Wilds.esp=1
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1
Daedric Extra Armor.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
zarias_restraints.esp=1
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp=1
LoversComfort.esp=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
LoversCreature.esp=1
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
Civil War Overhaul.esp=1
SexLab Submit.esp=1
ZaZAnimationPackConfig.esp=1
OBISDB.esp=1
OBIS.esp=1Here is my load order, but I don't actually have defeat enabled right now, I've been using submit but I'm curious to see if defeat works better

 

 

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Assuming you actually ran boss, then you had Nmm open at the same time xD

For some reason, and Im not sure if it's true for everyone, but BOSS doesn't work right if whenever I have nmm running. I generally have to close Nmm then run boss.

 

Give your computer a restart (just in case), then run boss again,  BUT don't open nmm until after boss has done its thing.

It's pretty obvious that either boss didn't run, or you didn't get it, yet. 

 

Also, when you post your load order use  [ s p o i l e r ]  only without the spaces  [ / s p o i l e r ]  so that it looks like this:

this time no spaces

 

 

You'll know for sure if it worked right, if OBIS and OBISDB have been moved higher in your load order, and if OBIS comes before OBISDB instead of the way is now.  If those two stay the way they are, then something is keeping BOSS from running. I only mention that one because obis is an easy one to pick out.

 

https://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/downloads/list  <- boss direct link just incase.  IIRC the installer version (second download from the top) was a little more user friendly.

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On the nexus page, if you actually read the description there is a spot that says (and I quote):

 

Downloads

BOSS can be downloaded from its Google Code page.
 

The blue text is actually a link, (which is in my last post too)

The Important part of that page is the description one.

You should read it. The post you are referring too, already told you where to look :cool:

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Did not know that  LoversCreature was released for skyrim, LoversCreature esm active.. if not released then this is the Oblivion one and should not be there let alone active.

 

 

All unofficial skyrim patches should be first under the last esm and be in the correct order as to release dates of the main DLC they are for, 

 

Skyrim esm,

Update esm,

DawnGuard esm,

HearthFire esm,

Dragonborn esm,

 

Any other ESM

 

This should be ya first esp in the load order

1st Unofficial Skyrim patch esp,

2nd Unofficial Dawnguard patch esp,

3rd Unofficial Hearthfire patch esp,

4th Unofficial Dragonborn patch esp.

 

Then whatever else ya got loaded in there correct load order as per modders description

 

LoversCreature.esp=1

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp=1

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp=1

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ These are from Oblivion, are active and will CTD.

 

Sort this out then re-run FNIS

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Did not know that  LoversCreature was released for skyrim, LoversCreature esm active.. if not released then this is the Oblivion one and should not be there let alone active.

 

 

All unofficial skyrim patches should be first under the last esm and be in the correct order as to release dates of the main DLC they are for, 

 

Skyrim esm,

Update esm,

DawnGuard esm,

HearthFire esm,

Dragonborn esm,

 

Any other ESM

 

This should be ya first esp in the load order

1st Unofficial Skyrim patch esp,

2nd Unofficial Dawnguard patch esp,

3rd Unofficial Hearthfire patch esp,

4th Unofficial Dragonborn patch esp.

 

Then whatever else ya got loaded in there correct load order as per modders description

 

LoversCreature.esp=1

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp=1

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp=1

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ These are from Oblivion, are active and will CTD.

 

Sort this out then re-run FNIS

The Oblivion mods definitly seem to be your issue but if your still having issues after getting rid of them I suggest using boss and posting the load order/report from it as it will give a little more info.

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Thanks everyone for being so dang helpful...I am a total newbie at this and I really do appreciate your help.

 

It is definitely possible that I have clicked and/or downloaded entirely inappropriate mods for Skyrim, will try to get that sorted out this evening and will check back if I run into any more problems, or to just give credit where it's due :)

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GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
SPIKE.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
SexLab Romance.esp=1
multifollowerlite.esp=1
betterfemalesbybella.esp=1
calientesvanillaarmor - banditpack slim.esp=1
modruby.esp=1
schwertleite set.esp=1
quest_sorcery.esp=1
daedriccorset.esp=1
nocturnal.esp=1
disablefasttravel.esp=1
dibella_priestesses.esp=1
litelongertorches.esp=1
realistic lighting.esp=1
hjra.esp=1
climatesoftamriel.esp=1
almalexia regalia.esp=1
lakeviewmanorupgrades.esp=1
better vampires.esp=1
erinfollowerdata2.esp=1
erinfollowerdata.esp=1
Real Clouds.esp=1
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1
ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp=1
ApachiiHairStyles.esp=1
Field Mage Outfit.esp=1
BasicHumanNeeds.esp=1
_admod.esp=1
SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp=1
WATER.esp=1
SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp=1
WATER Plants.esp=1
WATER DB Waves.esp=1
Bijin Housecarls.esp=1
zzDraugrParts.esp=1
NewCrazyMag1.esp=1
Topless Ragged Trousers.esp=1
SVS LadyTemplar.esp=1
Ebony_circlet.esp=1
Leather Armors.esp=1
GECK.O_Skyrim_MoreMales.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
SplashofRain.esp=1
TouringCarriages.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
DeadlyDragons.esp=1
DeadlyMonsters.esp=1
SoS - The Wilds.esp=1
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1
Daedric Extra Armor.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
zarias_restraints.esp=1
LoversComfort.esp=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
Civil War Overhaul.esp=1
SexLab Submit.esp=0
ZaZAnimationPackConfig.esp=1
OBISDB.esp=1
OBIS.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
banditraids.esp=1

Weirdness seems to be dogging my heels on resolving this issue....

 

Cyndi when I click on the links on that page that you kindly provided for me, nothing happens...

 

I'm hoping that it's something simple that will make me feel foolish afterwards!

 

I am also having an issue with FNIS finding an error when I run it, but can't seem to find a resolution for it either...could it be related to this other problem with defeat?  This error I get is: 

 

Reading ZaZAnimationPack ...
ERROR(2011): Wrong line in Animation List. Line  262 (..\..\meshes\actors\character\animations\ZaZAnimationPack\FNIS_ZaZAnimationPack_List.txt):  fu ZazWoodenHorse01 ZazAPCAO024.hkx ZazAPCAO024.hkx ZazFurnitureExit.hk

 My current load order is the following, and I've tweaked it as much as it will allow....I am suspecting that I may have to uninstall/install some of the stubborn plugins that won't move from near the top?

 

 

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Use NMM and start it up and select the top skyrim esm, then just use the down arrow key whilst doing this look on the right and it will show you the dependence of mods that are or might be needed. I use this when I get CTD. Eith NMM or BOSS, but for me BOSS kills my load order...

 

Do you have a compatible skeleton installed, xp32 used to be the one I used by now running SoS I use there skeleton.

 

Edit, Might just be my setup but the official HDTexture pack don't do squat for me and when I used to use them I always got CTD......

 

Is ya SKSE up to date aswell.

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I just installed SKSE last week, so yes it's up to date.

 

xp32 skeleton is the one directed for one of my mods, I don't remember which one off hand...but yes I believe it's compatible.

 

I just deleted the hi-res texture packs, so I will see if that helps any...

 

In case it wasn't clear, thanks a bunch for your input!

 

Edit: rats....oh well it was worth a try!

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go to ya documents/mygames/skyrim delete skse folder and ya save folder but don't empty ya recycle bin run FNIS then try again.

 

reason im saying this is because im sure that trying to run with those Oblivion mods it will register with skse, so delete both those folders mentioned and try again, like I said do not empty recycle bin yet.

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Another thing I just though of is when does it CTD right at start up or when loading a save? If it is when loading a save try loading an older save or starting a new game all together.If it is before the game even gets to the main menu and the above suggestions haven't helped then all I can think of is you have another mod that isn't skyrim related or requires another mod you don't have or have loading after it like possibly OBISDB loading up there before OBIS. I don't recognize about 1/2 your mods there so another possiblity I can think of is you have one that has major conflicts with another.

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GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
SPIKE.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=0
SexLab Romance.esp=1
multifollowerlite.esp=1
betterfemalesbybella.esp=1
calientesvanillaarmor - banditpack slim.esp=1
modruby.esp=1
schwertleite set.esp=1
quest_sorcery.esp=1
daedriccorset.esp=1
nocturnal.esp=1
disablefasttravel.esp=1
dibella_priestesses.esp=1
litelongertorches.esp=1
realistic lighting.esp=1
hjra.esp=1
climatesoftamriel.esp=1
almalexia regalia.esp=1
lakeviewmanorupgrades.esp=1
better vampires.esp=1
erinfollowerdata2.esp=1
erinfollowerdata.esp=1
Real Clouds.esp=1
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1
ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp=1
ApachiiHairStyles.esp=1
Field Mage Outfit.esp=1
BasicHumanNeeds.esp=1
_admod.esp=1
SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp=1
WATER.esp=1
SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp=1
WATER Plants.esp=1
WATER DB Waves.esp=1
Bijin Housecarls.esp=1
zzDraugrParts.esp=1
NewCrazyMag1.esp=1
Topless Ragged Trousers.esp=1
SVS LadyTemplar.esp=1
Ebony_circlet.esp=1
Leather Armors.esp=1
GECK.O_Skyrim_MoreMales.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
SplashofRain.esp=1
TouringCarriages.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
DeadlyDragons.esp=1
DeadlyMonsters.esp=1
SoS - The Wilds.esp=1
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1
Daedric Extra Armor.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
zarias_restraints.esp=1
LoversComfort.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
Civil War Overhaul.esp=1
SexLab Submit.esp=1
OBIS.esp=1
OBISDB.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=0
banditraids.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1
Frost Giants.esp=1
WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
ZaZAnimationPackConfig.esp=1

It actually crashes just before the save menu, so the game client doesn't even get to an interactive part (when I have SexLab Defeat enabled)  I am close to giving up on this...I have tried many, many suggestions (thanks and kudos to all who have taken the time to share their insights) and I have even completely uninstalled and reinstalled Skyrim itself...nothing works.

 

So, in a nutshell, I have three errors that I cannot figure out....the ctd with Defeat enabled, the FNIS error I get when I use the generator, and the Prison Overhaul bug wherein I am led to the jailer and then nothing happens past that....I even let the game run for 30 minutes while I went and did something and came back...yeppers, still just standing there looking all expectant like they expect something to begin at any second lol.  I also deleted all my ZAZ animation files from my data folder and reinstalled it again this morning, but I still get the same error code on the FNIS generator.

 

I will post my new load order (the current one) as I have downloaded a couple more mods I wanted to try before I begin my new hardcore immersion playthrough.

 

In all it's 83 plugins, & I have gone through the entire list and they are all for Skyrim now for sure (81 enabled).  Some are from the Steam Workshop, most are from the Nexus, and some from LL site.

 

 

 

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U have a mod enabled that is causing CTD. Now I have noticed it will run up to the continue/save/load screen then crash, if a mod is there and needs another mod to run proper but ain't installed it will load to the point I mentioned then CTD... Run NMM and select Skyrim.esm and scroll through the mods, when doing this look on the right every mod you have will show up there and also show you what else it needs to run (other dependencies), I never use BOSS for this as it messes up my load order...

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GameMode=Skyrim

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

SPIKE.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

SexLabDefeat.esp=0

SexLab Romance.esp=1

multifollowerlite.esp=1

betterfemalesbybella.esp=1

calientesvanillaarmor - banditpack slim.esp=1

modruby.esp=1

schwertleite set.esp=1

quest_sorcery.esp=1

daedriccorset.esp=1

nocturnal.esp=1

disablefasttravel.esp=1

dibella_priestesses.esp=1

litelongertorches.esp=1

realistic lighting.esp=1

hjra.esp=1

climatesoftamriel.esp=1

almalexia regalia.esp=1

lakeviewmanorupgrades.esp=1

better vampires.esp=1

erinfollowerdata2.esp=1

erinfollowerdata.esp=1

Real Clouds.esp=1

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1

ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp=1

ApachiiHairStyles.esp=1

Field Mage Outfit.esp=1

BasicHumanNeeds.esp=1

_admod.esp=1

SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp=1

WATER.esp=1

SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp=1

WATER Plants.esp=1

WATER DB Waves.esp=1

Bijin Housecarls.esp=1

zzDraugrParts.esp=1

NewCrazyMag1.esp=1

Topless Ragged Trousers.esp=1

SVS LadyTemplar.esp=1

Ebony_circlet.esp=1

Leather Armors.esp=1

GECK.O_Skyrim_MoreMales.esp=1

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1

SplashofRain.esp=1

TouringCarriages.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

DeadlyDragons.esp=1

DeadlyMonsters.esp=1

SoS - The Wilds.esp=1

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1

Daedric Extra Armor.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

zarias_restraints.esp=1

LoversComfort.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

Civil War Overhaul.esp=1

SexLab Submit.esp=1

OBIS.esp=1

OBISDB.esp=1

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=0

banditraids.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1

Frost Giants.esp=1

WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1

Cloaks.esp=1

FNISspells.esp=1

ZaZAnimationPackConfig.esp=1

It actually crashes just before the save menu, so the game client doesn't even get to an interactive part (when I have SexLab Defeat enabled)  I am close to giving up on this...I have tried many, many suggestions (thanks and kudos to all who have taken the time to share their insights) and I have even completely uninstalled and reinstalled Skyrim itself...nothing works.

 

So, in a nutshell, I have three errors that I cannot figure out....the ctd with Defeat enabled, the FNIS error I get when I use the generator, and the Prison Overhaul bug wherein I am led to the jailer and then nothing happens past that....I even let the game run for 30 minutes while I went and did something and came back...yeppers, still just standing there looking all expectant like they expect something to begin at any second lol.  I also deleted all my ZAZ animation files from my data folder and reinstalled it again this morning, but I still get the same error code on the FNIS generator.

 

I will post my new load order (the current one) as I have downloaded a couple more mods I wanted to try before I begin my new hardcore immersion playthrough.

 

In all it's 83 plugins, & I have gone through the entire list and they are all for Skyrim now for sure (81 enabled).  Some are from the Steam Workshop, most are from the Nexus, and some from LL site.

What skynet424 said is most likely but something I would like you to do for us also if you can't find anything after doing that...

 

It is long and a pain start up your mods one by one starting with sexlab defeat's required mods and then defeat and only those 3 mods, skyui, sexlab, and finally defeat don't forget to run fnis after turning sexlab off and again when you turn it back on, if it still crashs at this point let us know.

 

As for the error your getting from fnis I believe.... This is your issue.

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Following your suggestion when I get to SexLab Defeat I see:

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

SexLab.esm

 

These are all on the right hand side listed as Masters under the heading as such:  SexLabDefeat.esp with Author:DEFAULT

 

I have reinstalled both Skyrim and SexLab and sadly it makes no change in what happens :(

 

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If you tried my suggestion and it still happened and only when SL Defeat was enabled then the only thing I can think of for why you still had that problem is a bad file in defeat delete redownload. If that still doesn't work I'm completely out of ideas because if defeat isn't working with only the required mods and no other mods active I have no clue what is wrong with it as it works just fine for me.

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