Stikyroice Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) Hello, as the title says, I'm having a problem where only canine animals are not animating for SexLab scenes. My character animates fine during these. I've checked the debug log and there's no errors from SexLab, Creature support is installed for FNIS + enabled in SexLab. Match Creature Gender in SexLab is off. I've hit "De-Install Creatures" and then rerun FNIS. I've gone through the whole song and dance of "8. you may need to reload the animations, go to the Animation Loader's MCM and then: 8.1. click on the "Disable All" button. 8.2. click on "Rebuild Animation Registry", then Wait for the message to pop up*. 8.3. click on "Reload JSON". 8.4. click on "Enable All". 8.5. click on "Count Animations" and make sure nothing is over 500, turn off some animations if they are. 8.6. click on "Register Animations", then Wait for the message to pop up*." for SLAL. Any suggestions? I've also looked at which didn't fix it for me. I'm not running Beastess or any of the other fixes in there. However, I was interested in that it was mentioned the creature skeleton may be overwritten somehow in that thread. But they never explained that. Does anyone know how I can check if it's still there? I am also using Nemesis per the guide here on LL. Here is my FNIS log: Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL 2023-01-16 5:59:01 PM Generator: C:\Modding\NEFARAM\Game Root\data\tools\GenerateFNIS_for_Users\GenerateFNISforUsers.exe >>Warning: Bad installation. Generator not run from <Skyrim_Data>\Tools\GenerateFNIS_for_Users. If you use a mod manager, run FNIS from its list of supported tools.<< Skyrim SE 64bit: ??.??.?? - C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam) >>Warning: Expected generator path: C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\data\tools\GenerateFNIS_for_Users not found<< Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Patch: "HKX File Compatibility Check Skyrim/SSE" Reading AnimatedWhistling V?.? ... ChAnims:7 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ... ChAnims:298 CTD:1.8% pOpt:0.5% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ... ChAnims:145 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:185 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading AnimationsByMike24 V1.0 ... ChAnims:30 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:634 CTD:3.7% pOpt:0.8% Reading Anubs Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:1221 CTD:7.1% pOpt:1.6% Reading Babo bigguy V1.0 ... ChAnims:28 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:323 CTD:2.0% pOpt:0.5% Reading Babo Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:492 CTD:3.0% pOpt:0.7% Reading Babo Zaz Standalone V1.0 ... ChAnims:14 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading BaboAnimation V5 ... ChAnims:77 CTD:0.8% pOpt:0.4% Reading BaboHorribleHarassment V5 ... ChAnims:41 CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.3% Reading BaboMotionData V?.? ... ChAnims:35 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.2% Reading BDanimations1 V1.2+ ... ChAnims:1935 CTD:22.0% pOpt:14.4% Reading BDanimations2 V1.2+ ... ChAnims:994 CTD:11.3% pOpt:7.5% Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... ChAnims:364 CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.5% Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... ChAnims:145 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... ChAnims:593 CTD:3.6% pOpt:0.9% Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... ChAnims:249 CTD:1.5% pOpt:0.4% Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... ChAnims:110 CTD:0.7% pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:880 CTD:5.4% pOpt:1.3% Reading Billyy_HumanDD V1.0 ... ChAnims:390 CTD:2.4% pOpt:0.6% Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:182 CTD:1.1% pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_HumanFurnitureInvis V1.0 ... ChAnims:292 CTD:1.8% pOpt:0.4% Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ... ChAnims:300 CTD:1.9% pOpt:0.5% Reading Billyy_HumanOrgy V1.0 ... ChAnims:144 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading DD V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:725(576) CTD:13.1% pOpt:1.0% Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:374(374) CTD:10.7% pOpt:0.0% Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ... ChAnims:119(119) CTD:2.9% pOpt:0.0% Reading DDC V1.2 ... ChAnims:58 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.2% Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:410 CTD:2.8% pOpt:0.9% Reading DeviousFollowers V1.00 ... ChAnims:34(34) CTD:1.3% pOpt:0.0% Reading DF_Spank V1.0 ... ChAnims:70 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.1% Reading dftCreature V1.2+ ... ChAnims:109 CTD:1.3% pOpt:0.8% Reading dftHuman V1.2+ ... ChAnims:615 CTD:7.0% pOpt:4.6% Reading dftMiscAnimation V1.2+ ... ChAnims:370 CTD:3.8% pOpt:2.0% Reading DiaryOfMine V5 ... ChAnims:219 CTD:2.5% pOpt:1.6% Reading Fillherup V5 ... ChAnims:25 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading FNISBase V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FunnyBizBeastly V1.0 ... ChAnims:90 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.1% Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ... ChAnims:180 CTD:1.1% pOpt:0.3% Reading FunnyBizFemDom V1.0 ... ChAnims:85 CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.1% Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ... ChAnims:334 CTD:2.0% pOpt:0.5% Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ... ChAnims:471 CTD:3.0% pOpt:0.8% Reading FunnyBizGuro V5.0 ... ChAnims:108 CTD:0.7% pOpt:0.2% Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ... ChAnims:156 CTD:1.0% pOpt:0.2% Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... ChAnims:45 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading FunnyBizMolag V1.0 ... ChAnims:339 CTD:2.1% pOpt:0.5% Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ... ChAnims:23 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading FunnyBizNecro V10.0 ... ChAnims:442 CTD:2.8% pOpt:0.7% Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ... ChAnims:310 CTD:1.9% pOpt:0.5% Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ... ChAnims:590 CTD:3.6% pOpt:0.9% Reading ImmersiveAnimatedLooting V?.? ... ChAnims:13 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading InteractiveGallow V?.? ... ChAnims:4 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading Kudasai V4.1 ... ChAnims:67 CTD:0.7% pOpt:0.4% Reading MME V6.07 ... ChAnims:52 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... ChAnims:344 CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.6% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:132 CTD:0.8% pOpt:0.2% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... ChAnims:16 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading NibblesAnims_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:284 CTD:1.7% pOpt:0.4% Reading NibblesAnims_Object V1.0 ... ChAnims:153 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading PAHE V5 ... ChAnims:14 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading PsycheAnimation V1.0 ... ChAnims:315 CTD:2.0% pOpt:0.5% Reading PsycheCreature V1.0 ... ChAnims:130 CTD:0.8% pOpt:0.2% Reading RZAZZ >>Warning: Inconsistent mod RZAZZ. Number of animations differs between FNIS List (3) and corresponding behavior file (90)<< V?.? ... ChAnims:3 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading RZNEW V1.0 ... ChAnims:152 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading SexLab V1.63 ... ChAnims:882 CTD:5.6% pOpt:1.5% Reading SexLab_Aroused_Creatures V1.0 ... ChAnims:1 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ... ChAnims:142 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... ChAnims:177 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading SexLabTDFAggressiveProstitution V?.? ... ChAnims:25 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading SL_Survival V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:19 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading SpankThatAss V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:2 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading XPMSE V7.2 ... ChAnims:164(164) CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ... ChAnims:1669 CTD:7.9% pOpt:0.1% Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ... ChAnims:42 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... No GENDER directory male 11 GENDER modifications for Animations\female >>Warning: \character\animations\staggercamera.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<< Alternate Animation mods: 5 sets: 46 total groups: 199 added file slots: 1539 alternate files: 1267 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... Reading Kudasai V?.? ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... Reading PsycheCreature V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... Reading BaboHorribleHarassmentCreature V1.0 ... Reading SexLab_Aroused_Creatures V1.0 ... 21211 animations for 78 mods successfully included (character). ChAnims: 21211 CTD:170.7% pOpt:54.5% max: 12429 LC: 44647 (max. 26162) >>Warning: Too many custom animations. Your Skyrim is likely to crash (CTD, crash to desktop)<< You can increase your animation number DRASTICALLY with these tools: Animation Limit Crash Fix (Skyrim SE and LE), SSE Engine Fixes (Skyrim SE only) Since FNIS cannot know if such mod is installed, it will still warn you at the original limit. But when such tool is used, load calculation can be switched off (FNIS.ini: "LoadCTDCalculation=0") 5039 animations for 16 mods and 45 creatures successfully included.. 5 Warning(s). Edited January 16, 2023 by Stikyroice
traison Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 Couple of things: You have warnings in your FNIS log. I don't know what the effect of having an incompatible mod is. I would assume FNIS just skips it, but if it doesn't then who knows what the result is. Pointless having an unknown like that in there when trying to debug an animation issue. Fix those warnings. SL in SSE has this bug where the first stage of some animations is broken in the manner you describe. The workaround is to advance to stage 2 or 3, maybe hit home then return to stage 2. Returning to stage 1 breaks it again.
Stikyroice Posted January 16, 2023 Author Posted January 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, traison said: Couple of things: You have warnings in your FNIS log. I don't know what the effect of having an incompatible mod is. I would assume FNIS just skips it, but if it doesn't then who knows what the result is. Pointless having an unknown like that in there when trying to debug an animation issue. Fix those warnings. SL in SSE has this bug where the first stage of some animations is broken in the manner you describe. The workaround is to advance to stage 2 or 3, maybe hit home then return to stage 2. Returning to stage 1 breaks it again. Looks like it's progressing to all creatures not working. In addition, the first stage not working thing isn't really affecting me.
Stikyroice Posted January 17, 2023 Author Posted January 17, 2023 I fixed it. Here's how I do it now in case anyone stumbles upon this. Generally, I follow the LL guide 1. Disable ALL Nemesis (Including creature compatibility patch) 2. Enable ALL FNIS, run FNIS 3. Disable FNIS XXL (or Main) only 4. If Nemesis run before, go into Nemesis Output and delete FNIS.esp and "meshes" folder 5. Enable ALL Nemesis, Run Nemesis 6. Disable ALL Nemesis 7. Enable FNIS XXL, run FNIS 8. Enable ALL Nemesis Run skyrim with ALL FNIS and ALL Nemesis mods enabled.
no_way Posted March 21, 2025 Posted March 21, 2025 Got the same problem but with pandora. Any ideas? 2
DuckyDuo Posted March 22, 2025 Posted March 22, 2025 22 hours ago, no_way said: Got the same problem but with pandora. Any ideas? +1, either Pandora/Sexlab P+ related I think. The v2.4.0-beta version of Pandora might work. 2
HentaiGnome Posted March 22, 2025 Posted March 22, 2025 (edited) 28 minutes ago, DuckyDuo said: +1, either Pandora/Sexlab P+ related I think. The v2.4.0-beta version of Pandora might work. This is the answer, @no_way. I personally learned the hard way that canines do NOT animate when using the latest version of Pandora. So you'll need to get the one off of Nexus, which is 2.4.0-beta. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/133232?tab=description Edited March 22, 2025 by HentaiGnome 3
traison Posted March 22, 2025 Posted March 22, 2025 This is the reason why I haven't switched to Pandora. With every version a new issue pops up it seems. My worry is that soon the code is going to be full of if statements applying specific fixes to specific files or situations. This has a tendency to cause spaghetti code, making maintenance slow and the software prone to failures. Lets hope they can keep it together. 1
hc789 Posted March 30, 2025 Posted March 30, 2025 On 3/22/2025 at 12:55 AM, HentaiGnome said: This is the answer, @no_way. I personally learned the hard way that canines do NOT animate when using the latest version of Pandora. So you'll need to get the one off of Nexus, which is 2.4.0-beta. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/133232?tab=description Hey - came across this thread as I'm having the same problem. Spent much of today trying to figure it out (all of what was mentioned by original poster) and was hoping i'd just come across the answer. Unfortunately, looks like whilst it might be Pandora driven, i've already got version 2.4.0 beta - thought maybe i had a different version. Any other ideas of what might be causing this? Everything else in the game working other than a "thread not found" error in the command prompt with canines. If not, I'll just deal with it (not really too bothered) but thought i'd ask if there's any other things that might be worth trying. Cheers!
DuckyDuo Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 Monitor221hz just pushed out the 2.7.0 beta which is supposed to fix this issue https://github.com/Monitor221hz/Pandora-Behaviour-Engine-Plus/releases/tag/v2.7.0-beta "[Fix]: FNIS Canine (including dog/wolf) animlists not being found and injected" 2
traison Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, DuckyDuo said: Monitor221hz just pushed out the 2.7.0 beta which is supposed to fix this issue https://github.com/Monitor221hz/Pandora-Behaviour-Engine-Plus/releases/tag/v2.7.0-beta "[Fix]: FNIS Canine (including dog/wolf) animlists not being found and injected" Looks like it was immediately removed. Careful if you downloaded it already. Edit: And now it's back. Edited April 1, 2025 by traison 2
Uffda Posted April 23, 2025 Posted April 23, 2025 In Pandora - it is confirmed not to work in 2.7.0 either. Only solution is to downgrade to 2.4.0 beta from nexus site.
traison Posted April 23, 2025 Posted April 23, 2025 (edited) 13 hours ago, Uffda said: In Pandora - it is confirmed not to work in 2.7.0 either. Only solution is to downgrade to 2.4.0 beta from nexus site. Like I said though, every version of Pandora has its own issues. 2.4.0 for instance has issues with *some* draugr corpses turning into slendermen. FNIS is actually still the only behavior file generator that works reliably. Edited April 23, 2025 by traison
jowamowa Posted June 10, 2025 Posted June 10, 2025 3.0.0 dropped some time ago on github Says: [Fix]: Not processing FNIS wolf/canine animations properly (for real this time)
traison Posted June 10, 2025 Posted June 10, 2025 (edited) On 6/10/2025 at 9:37 AM, jowamowa said: 3.0.0 dropped some time ago on github Says: [Fix]: Not processing FNIS wolf/canine animations properly (for real this time) I wonder if this also fixes the random Havok crashes during the Helgen intro. Edit: It does not. Edited June 14, 2025 by traison
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