Jotasran Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 Was having CTD in certain combats before but fixed tihe vanilla microoptimizations, and this is the first I've run into the problem again. Here is my .net script framework crash log I have no idea how to read this, so any help would be appreciated. Crash_2022_11_13_13-33-7.txt
traison Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 That crash occured in po3_PapyrusExtender.dll, see if it needs an update.
Jotasran Posted November 13, 2022 Author Posted November 13, 2022 It did need an update, and just updated it after you pointed it out. Still has the same crash... new crash log... Crash_2022_11_13_14-4-50.txt
Jotasran Posted November 13, 2022 Author Posted November 13, 2022 Load order is... Active Plugins: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 ccBGSSSE002-ExoticArrows.esl 06 ccBGSSSE003-Zombies.esl 07 ccBGSSSE004-RuinsEdge.esl 08 ccBGSSSE006-StendarsHammer.esl 09 ccBGSSSE007-Chrysamere.esl 0A ccBGSSSE010-PetDwarvenArmoredMudcrab.esl 0B ccBGSSSE014-SpellPack01.esl 0C ccBGSSSE019-StaffofSheogorath.esl 0D ccBGSSSE020-GrayCowl.esl 0E ccBGSSSE021-LordsMail.esl 0F ccMTYSSE001-KnightsoftheNine.esl 10 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl 11 ccTWBSSE001-PuzzleDungeon.esm 12 ccEEJSSE001-Hstead.esm 13 ccQDRSSE002-Firewood.esl 14 ccBGSSSE018-Shadowrend.esl 15 ccBGSSSE035-PetNHound.esl 16 ccFSVSSE001-Backpacks.esl 17 ccEEJSSE002-Tower.esl 18 ccEDHSSE001-NorJewel.esl 19 ccVSVSSE002-Pets.esl 1A ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl 1B ccBGSSSE034-MntUni.esl 1C ccBGSSSE045-Hasedoki.esl 1D ccBGSSSE008-Wraithguard.esl 1E ccBGSSSE036-PetBWolf.esl 1F ccFFBSSE001-ImperialDragon.esl 20 ccMTYSSE002-VE.esl 21 ccBGSSSE043-CrossElv.esl 22 ccVSVSSE001-Winter.esl 23 ccEEJSSE003-Hollow.esl 24 ccBGSSSE016-Umbra.esm 25 ccBGSSSE031-AdvCyrus.esm 26 ccBGSSSE040-AdvObGobs.esl 27 ccBGSSSE050-BA_Daedric.esl 28 ccBGSSSE052-BA_Iron.esl 29 ccBGSSSE054-BA_Orcish.esl 2A ccBGSSSE058-BA_Steel.esl 2B ccBGSSSE059-BA_Dragonplate.esl 2C ccBGSSSE061-BA_Dwarven.esl 2D ccPEWSSE002-ArmsOfChaos.esl 2E ccBGSSSE041-NetchLeather.esl 2F ccEDHSSE002-SplKntSet.esl 30 ccBGSSSE064-BA_Elven.esl 31 ccBGSSSE063-BA_Ebony.esl 32 ccBGSSSE062-BA_DwarvenMail.esl 33 ccBGSSSE060-BA_Dragonscale.esl 34 ccBGSSSE056-BA_Silver.esl 35 ccBGSSSE055-BA_OrcishScaled.esl 36 ccBGSSSE053-BA_Leather.esl 37 ccBGSSSE051-BA_DaedricMail.esl 38 ccBGSSSE057-BA_Stalhrim.esl 39 ccVSVSSE003-NecroArts.esl 3A ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm 3B ccFFBSSE002-CrossbowPack.esl 3C ccBGSSSE013-Dawnfang.esl 3D ccRMSSSE001-NecroHouse.esl 3E ccEEJSSE004-Hall.esl 3F ccbgssse001-fish.esm 40 ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm 41 ccvsvsse004-beafarmer.esl 42 cckrtsse001_altar.esl 43 ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm 44 cceejsse005-cave.esm 45 ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm 46 ccbgssse005-goldbrand.esl 47 ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl 48 ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl 49 ccbgssse038-bowofshadows.esl 4A ccbgssse066-staves.esl 4B ccbgssse068-bloodfall.esl 4C ccbgssse069-contest.esl 4D cccbhsse001-gaunt.esl 4E ccedhsse003-redguard.esl 4F Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [Version 4.2.5b] 50 Vanilla Script MicroOptimizations.esl 51 Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp 52 ConfigureCommentaryRate.esl 53 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm [Version 5.6.3] 54 wraithguardvaultfixer.esp 55 TrueHUD.esl 56 Vanilla Scripts Enhanced.esl 57 FISS.esp 58 Fertility Mode.esm 59 Heels Sound.esm 5A Occ_Skyrim_Tamriel.esp 5B 3DNPC.esp 5C NoSillyPhysicsDamage.esl 5D NoBrokenWhiterunTower.esp 5E Campfire.esm 5F DBM_CC_HallOfWonders.esp 60 iWant Widgets.esl 61 Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl 62 Schlongs of Skyrim - 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Vokrii Compatibility Patch.esp 240 Odin - Vokrii Compatibility Patch.esp 241 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp [Version 400] 242 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 243 Ordinator_WACCF_Patch.esp 244 Ordinator - Apply Spell Conditions Fix.esp 245 Odin - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 246 CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp 247 Ordinator - Combat Styles.esp 248 Vokriinator Black.esp 249 Vokriinator Black - Apocalypse patch.esp 24A Vokriinator Black - Odin patch.esp 24B Vokriinator Black - CACO patch.esp 24C Vokriinator Black - Trade and Barter patch.esp 24D Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp 24E Sacrosanct_CACO_Patch.esp 24F Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 4.1.4] 250 Alternate Start - Experience Patch.esp 251 Alternate Start - Bob's Interdimensional Chambers.esp 252 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 253 Starting Spells LAL.esp 254 Modpocalypse NPCs (v2) ASLAL.esp 255 nwsFollowerFramework.esp 256 SDA NFF Patch.esp [Version 6.0NFFPatch] 257 ELE_SSE.esp 258 ELE-ELFX Patch AIO.esp 259 ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp 25A ELE_SSE_CRF.esp 25B MCoW_ELE.esp 25C WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp 25D Summermyst - 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traison Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) Oh, so there's an actual bug in that dll then. You able to disable that dll? I assume not since you probably have mods with scripts depending on it. Edit: oh the dll comes with a pdb file, I can get more info from that most likely. Be a min. Edited November 13, 2022 by traison
Jotasran Posted November 13, 2022 Author Posted November 13, 2022 Power of Three Papyrus tweaks you mean? No... I sure I have dependent mods on that.
traison Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) It appears to have occured in the Papyrus__ObjectReference__RemoveAllModItems function of po3's extender. If you want to look into fixing this yourself, look through all your psc script files for a call to RemoveAllModItems and see if you can comment that line out without breaking everything. Notepad++ can search through all psc files with ease. Edit: Start by inspecting FEC_Utility.psc, as it is mentioned in the stack. Edit again: Or if FEC_Utility.psc belongs to a mod with say a cloak or other polling method, see if you can temporarily disable its functions in an MCM (or similar). Edit again: Another file for inspection: DSerCombatGameplayOverhaulNPC.psc Edited November 13, 2022 by traison
Jotasran Posted November 13, 2022 Author Posted November 13, 2022 I was looking in the posts for Power of Three papyrus mod... there was a very recent discussion about FEC. Does it make sense that that is causing the problem and deleting will fix the bug? I don't really want to delete a mod for fear of borking my games and I see mixed messages about "cleaning" saves.
traison Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 Scripts continue running from saves. Deleting script files may not even prevent the problem from occuring, not to mention the mess it leaves in your save. Sometimes you can get away with this with a save cleaner such as ReSaver.
Fotogen Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 Do you have SKSE 2.0.17 or 2.0.20? Some .dll mods can be sensitive to SKSE version.
Jotasran Posted November 13, 2022 Author Posted November 13, 2022 Fotogen, I have 2.0.20. Traison, Thanks for helping me isolate this. I went into the MCM and disabled all FEC effects. It sucks because I absolutely love that mod's effects, but disabling it lets me play the game. Odd that both are powerofthree mods but they conflict with eachother. Oh well, the author will address that soon. If not, I'll remove it from my load order next playthru. In any case, you are appreciated
traison Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 You should try enabling FEC again once you get out of the situation you're in now, it might just work. If you do, just keep in mind that if you get another CTD, FEC is your first suspect until po3's dll is updated.
Jotasran Posted November 13, 2022 Author Posted November 13, 2022 Ok, will do. From the posts, this situation seems specific to large battles like civil war battles.
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