Looking for a sadist master NPC

[Allyson Wonderland]

While many of the follower mods are really good they are lacking something.  I would really love to find a follower who is a sadist master, one who will keep the PC often helpless, abused, punished, and controlled.

 

Are there any followers like that? I know Sex Slaves has Andrew who is dominant but he really doesn't meet my expectations.

 

Thanks.

[Karkhel]

What do they lack? And which ones have you tried? 3 of my favorite mods in this "genre" are Trouble of Heroine and Devious Followers Continued and Submisive Lola resubmission running all 3 at the same time, DF and lola are more generic type of support, TH has more context stuff for particular npcs (like sexist orc in riverwood), they work pretty well together, and DF is compatible with lola and does have some configurable settings, and in general lola and DF are highly customizable, you can setup both of those to really ramp up the slavery fast and even change the type of language they use for you (base lola uses more encouraging dialogue, I set it to more demanding).

Default settings of both can already spiral out of control if you have other mods that interfere with general gameplay including combat, especially at the start. Which makes you ramp up the dept even more, so you get into even more compromising situations. I keep simping for this mod in like every 2nd topic I respond in but SL survival is a great one if you use devious followers (I think SE version needed some specific fix? Also do keep in mind this mod is still being developed, it has beta version thats much newer than official), and it again helps ramp up the control element of DF and lola.

You could also tweak the settings and make it all progress faster if you don't have other mods that hinder you. So far I have not found better mods for this, DF and lola in particular have way more content than it seems on the surface, some of it is not explained very well and not always in MCM. And while you have those mods I'd make sure to install generated voices for all those mods, even with awkward AI sounding lines it adds a lot to hear the stuff rather than just having it appear as text.

[Allyson Wonderland]

I have looked at those mods but not really extensively. Perhaps I need to give them another look and try them out. Thank you for the suggestion.

[Shadowbroker3495]

1 hour ago, Allyson Wonderland said:

While many of the follower mods are really good they are lacking something.  I would really love to find a follower who is a sadist master, one who will keep the PC often helpless, abused, punished, and controlled.

 

Are there any followers like that? I know Sex Slaves has Andrew who is dominant but he really doesn't meet my expectations.

 

Thanks.

Problem is that PC slavery mods are designed not to make other gameplay completely impossible.

 

Submissive Lola has a more hardcore extension but the majority of events is still from the more softcore main mod.

 

 

Slaverun Reloaded mod is probably the most hardcore mod with a LOT of sex (if you play as submissive female slave). You will get a rather sadistic slave trainer so maybe try that mod.

 

Mod has a very long quest line so it will take many hours to play through all the content, that the mod has to offer. You are free to do what you want (which is not very immersive) but you have to report back every 7 days (can be configured) or you will be hunted down. Look carefully at the suggested mods section to get the full experience of the mod.

 

 

[Allyson Wonderland]

I tried Slaverun before, on an earlier release and it was pretty buggy. This one you referenced looks like a newer edition, I will give it a try. Thank you.

[Karkhel]

Slaverun reloaded is hard to make work with modern DD, and you need newer DD for a lot of mods nowadays, and even when you can run it together you still get conflicts whenever you have any of the newer devices (some people mentioned they had to add their own devices for slaverun... as in manually put them on themselves... thats not exactly NPC control for me), if you do manage to make slaverun work for you you can actually run it together, SL survival again has toggles for slaverun. You can setup those 4 mods I mentioned so that normal gameplay is much harder, lola extension is great, especially the branding part, not enough mods have branding, and it also is very customizable, I personally don't like death mods, so I turned that option off.
I'm in the middle of changing my modlist so its gonna be slightly different than this (mostly additonal mods but I'm still not 100% sure on this exact load order) maybe you get some ideas for mods that work well together from this.

TL;DR: I'm posting current mods to maybe draw inspiration from, the rest of my ramblings are optional if you care


The way I setup things with sexlab disparity (which sadly isn't on SE, actually one of the reasons why I'm still on LE) and the rest of the mods is I get penalties and enough stuff to make combat difficult (for eg just sprinting on hard terrain which usually is a big cheese makes me fall down because of SL survival steep fall) and then debuffs from mods like apropos or defeat keep my character in their place so I have to rely on the followers, which are also required to even leave the city with SL survival. So it's very easy to get into the loop of being stuck with big dept and getting increasingly worse deals from DF or lola. Level one PC with this setup can't really fight one on one with a lot of the npcs, and if you follower is not a dedicated fighter but some cowardly bum you actually get shit kicked in even in riften sewers. I find it near impossible to roleplay a weak heroine unless I have mods that actually make it so.

I'm not a fan of automatic failure, npc just coming over and starting a scene, so I have either directly avoidable perils in my mod list or stuff where you really fucked up to be in this position in the first place that I just make either hard to avoid or make avoiding them big trade off in some other way, and most failure effects that are pretty much unavoidable I just turn off in the mod settings (stuff like cursed loot rape). Its nice to have gold sinks that make you waste money, RND or other need mods I feel like are almost a must in these types of load orders, but everyone has their vision for the game. Especially early levels with this load order and the way I setup the mods I have a hard time defeating a lot of npcs one on one.
No idea what you want outside of dominant followers so maybe this modlist will be completely useless to you but I'm puttig it into spoiler tag so you can just ignore it.

Spoiler

Sexlab Disparity is only there to make pregnant effects so dire its one of the soft failure states basically. Food ESP is just custom script from SL survival to make all food more expensive for RND to be more harsh, and hunger is to make food more sparse in the world.


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[Shadowbroker3495]

23 minutes ago, Allyson Wonderland said:

I tried Slaverun before, on an earlier release and it was pretty buggy. This one you referenced looks like a newer edition, I will give it a try. Thank you.

Sure, there can be a few problems.

 

* You need a version that is compatible with Devious Devices either version 4 or 5. There is a version check when launching Slaverun mod.

 

* Actors may leave during a scene. So far no fix but my workaround is to use follower mod (Nether Follower Framework) to force scene actors to become followers first, before starting scene. When scene is completed. you can release followers. (tedious solution but at least you get to experience scene as it was designed)

 

* Slavers are constantly searching for rape victims so dialogues can get interrupted. Workaround is to use Sexlab Aroused mod to manually reduce arousal of the character, you are trying to have a dialogue with. 

 

* Also remember that mod has a Problems MCM section. E.g. if you suddenly can't get control of your character, you can use MCM option to get control again.

 

Apart from that, i've had no other problems with the mod.

 

[Allyson Wonderland]

4 hours ago, Karkhel said:

Slaverun reloaded is hard to make work with modern DD, and you need newer DD for a lot of mods nowadays, and even when you can run it together you still get conflicts whenever you have any of the newer devices (some people mentioned they had to add their own devices for slaverun... as in manually put them on themselves... thats not exactly NPC control for me), if you do manage to make slaverun work for you you can actually run it together, SL survival again has toggles for slaverun. You can setup those 4 mods I mentioned so that normal gameplay is much harder, lola extension is great, especially the branding part, not enough mods have branding, and it also is very customizable, I personally don't like death mods, so I turned that option off.
I'm in the middle of changing my modlist so its gonna be slightly different than this (mostly additonal mods but I'm still not 100% sure on this exact load order) maybe you get some ideas for mods that work well together from this.

TL;DR: I'm posting current mods to maybe draw inspiration from, the rest of my ramblings are optional if you care


The way I setup things with sexlab disparity (which sadly isn't on SE, actually one of the reasons why I'm still on LE) and the rest of the mods is I get penalties and enough stuff to make combat difficult (for eg just sprinting on hard terrain which usually is a big cheese makes me fall down because of SL survival steep fall) and then debuffs from mods like apropos or defeat keep my character in their place so I have to rely on the followers, which are also required to even leave the city with SL survival. So it's very easy to get into the loop of being stuck with big dept and getting increasingly worse deals from DF or lola. Level one PC with this setup can't really fight one on one with a lot of the npcs, and if you follower is not a dedicated fighter but some cowardly bum you actually get shit kicked in even in riften sewers. I find it near impossible to roleplay a weak heroine unless I have mods that actually make it so.

I'm not a fan of automatic failure, npc just coming over and starting a scene, so I have either directly avoidable perils in my mod list or stuff where you really fucked up to be in this position in the first place that I just make either hard to avoid or make avoiding them big trade off in some other way, and most failure effects that are pretty much unavoidable I just turn off in the mod settings (stuff like cursed loot rape). Its nice to have gold sinks that make you waste money, RND or other need mods I feel like are almost a must in these types of load orders, but everyone has their vision for the game. Especially early levels with this load order and the way I setup the mods I have a hard time defeating a lot of npcs one on one.
No idea what you want outside of dominant followers so maybe this modlist will be completely useless to you but I'm puttig it into spoiler tag so you can just ignore it.

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Sexlab Disparity is only there to make pregnant effects so dire its one of the soft failure states basically. Food ESP is just custom script from SL survival to make all food more expensive for RND to be more harsh, and hunger is to make food more sparse in the world.


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"0113","+","yps-Sound&TexturePack20200328 (required for all versions!)"

"0114","+","UNP patch for YPS Immersive Fashion"

"0115","+","YPS Immersive Fashion Tweaked"

"0116","+","SubmissiveLolaResubmission"

"0117","+","LE_kal_LolaAddon_V111"

"0118","+","DF Spank SLAL mini"

"0119","+","DFC - Voices - 2.14.X - Main (v2) core voices"

"0120","+","DFC voices supplementary"

"0121","+","DFC - Voices - 2.14.X - Uniques (Mixed Quality)"

"0122","+","DFC - Voices - 2.14.X - Extras (Low Quality)"

"0123","+","Fertility Adventures-109566-0-32-1642748514"

"0124","+","Milk Mod Economy LE Assets"

"0125","+","Milk Mod Economy"

"0126","+","Bodyslide MilkCuirass UUNP"

"0127","+","SexLab Inflation Framework"

"0128","+","Dripping when aroused"

"0129","+","Sexlab Fill Her Up Baka Edition"

"0130","+","SexLab Inflation Framework Patches"

"0131","+","ConsoleUtil"

"0132","+","PapyrusUtil - Scripting Utility Functions"

"0133","+","Papyrus Extender - 2.5"

"0134","+","Apropos2.1.0.0.10"

"0135","+","Apropos2.1.0.0.10 - DB ONLY - NO INCEST"

"0136","+","Apropos2 DB Update 0.6.21"

"0137","+","Apropos 2 SLSO Patch V2"

"0138","+","Apropos"

"0139","+","Quest Conflict Fixes"

"0140","+","Bodyslide output"

"0141","+","First Person 3_4"

"0142","+","ABA basic"

"0143","+","Showers in Inns 1-11-35311-1-11"

"0144","+","[LE] PW v1.1.2 Voice Pack Gen4 Rev1"

"0145","+","[LE] PW v1.1.2 Voice Patch"

"0146","+","[LE] MME v20210209 Executaball Voice Pack BSA Gen1.3"

"0147","+","[LE] ToH v2.4.1 Voice Pack Gen 4"

"0148","+","[LE] SubLolaRS v2.0.51 Voice Pack Gen 4"

"0149","+","[LE] BaboDialogue v4.401 Voice Pack Gen 4"

"0150","+","bac_2.0_LE"

"0151","+","bac_2.0_LE_loose_files"

"0152","+","bac_2.0_LE_tats"

"0153","+","[LE] BaC-Alt v1.9F1 Voice Pack Gen 4"

"0154","+","bodyslide bac"

"0155","+","Beastess_Beast_Sneak_noEsp"

"0156","+","Better Dialogue Controls"

"0157","+","Stupid Bounty Condition Patch"

"0158","+","SexLab-Disparity-V14-4-20190721-0"

"0159","+","SexLab-Disparity"

"0160","+","Billyy's SLAL Animations 5.9"

"0161","+","Sextreme-All_v2_20"

"0162","+","Mortal Weapons And Armors"

"0163","+","Sexlab Defeat Baka Patch"

"0164","+","plugins"

"0165","+","Deviously Cursed Loot"

"0166","+","Marriage Mod - To Have And To Hold"

"0167","+","bodyslide new"

"0168","+","bodyslide single"

"0169","+","Cumshot"

"0170","+","CumSplashRetexture"

"0171","+","HIMBO V4 - Core"

"0172","+","HIMBO V4 - Refits"

"0173","+","AmazingFollowerTweaks_1_66"

"0174","+","bodyslide malebody"

"0175","+","dcur"

"0176","+","Poser Hotkeys"

"0177","+","Animal SOS_0.1.6.2_07"

"0178","+","[LE] SL Survival v0.662beta DoubleCheeseburger Voice Pack BSA"

"0179","+","SexLab Horrible Harassment Expansion 3.67 Voice Files"

"0180","+","SexLab Approach 2.12 Voice Files"

"0182","+","Sexlab Confabulation 1.7.4 Voice Files"

"0183","+","Sex Lab - Sexual Fame 0.99"

"0184","+","SLSFFameComments v3.31 SE"

"0185","+","SLSF com Voice"

"0186","+","Baka Motion Data Pack"

"0187","+","bcvb"

"0188","+","bodyslideoutput 2208"

"0189","+","iWant Widgets"

"0190","+","SLWidgets 2.0.3 (LE)"

"0191","+","iWant Status Bars"

"0192","+","SLCumshot_1_7_2_SLSO_script"

"0193","+","SLSO_F_VP_Eliz"

"0194","+","iWant RND Widgets"

"0195","+","Food"

"0196","+","widgets settings"

"0197","+","Skyrim_Particle_Patch_for_ENB"

"0198","+","Revamped Exterior Fog-9930-1-0"

"0201","+","True Storms - Thunder and Rain Redone v1.5"

"0202","+","Relighting Skyrim Series"

"0203","+","Eye Normal Map Fix-54416-1"

"0204","+","Improved Eyes Skyrim"

"0205","+","969696"

"0206","+","EVG Animation Variance"

"0207","+","EVG Animation Variance - Player Addon"

"0208","+","Gesture Animation Remix (DAR) - Main Archive"

"0209","+","Terrarium's Sexy Voice Replacer"

"0210","+","FNIS output"

"0220","+","Hvergelmir's Aesthetics - Brows"

"0221","+","FixLipSync v1-75951-1"

"0222","+","Female Facial Animation-35303-2-0"

"0223","+","Tes5EditMerged"

 

Actually this is quite helpful. I appreciate you're doing this for me to review. It definitely gives me a starting point and things to look at. While I have used some of these mods I have not used them in quite the way you have and that gives me things to consider on how I want to put this together to work in my game world. I can see that I will have to do some experimenting and fine tuning but to be honest I do spent more time playing with mods than actual game play, lol.

[Allyson Wonderland]

4 hours ago, Shadowbroker3495 said:

Sure, there can be a few problems.

 

* You need a version that is compatible with Devious Devices either version 4 or 5. There is a version check when launching Slaverun mod.

 

* Actors may leave during a scene. So far no fix but my workaround is to use follower mod (Nether Follower Framework) to force scene actors to become followers first, before starting scene. When scene is completed. you can release followers. (tedious solution but at least you get to experience scene as it was designed)

 

* Slavers are constantly searching for rape victims so dialogues can get interrupted. Workaround is to use Sexlab Aroused mod to manually reduce arousal of the character, you are trying to have a dialogue with. 

 

* Also remember that mod has a Problems MCM section. E.g. if you suddenly can't get control of your character, you can use MCM option to get control again.

 

Apart from that, i've had no other problems with the mod.

 

Thank you for the information on Slaverun. I know that the mod can be problematic and can be difficult to make it behave. Something I will have to play with and see if I can figure out a good way to work with it.

[shrtjsrtj]

 

AFAIK 10.3 is still the latest version, but Monoman1 is working on a large update.

 

You start as a daughter who has to take care of her mother while your sadistic father in law keeps ramping up humiliations, punishments and control of you. The father takes control much further and harsher than other mods, but there's a lot to do so you wont feel like you're missing out on adventuring.

[lPalpatinel]

7 hours ago, Allyson Wonderland said:

While many of the follower mods are really good they are lacking something.  I would really love to find a follower who is a sadist master, one who will keep the PC often helpless, abused, punished, and controlled.

 

Are there any followers like that? I know Sex Slaves has Andrew who is dominant but he really doesn't meet my expectations.

 

Thanks.

well there are several mods, I'll talk about some of them here that have what you asked for, which is follower dominat:

1- slaverun : although many people say it's buggy but I played the campaign for complete gift (with the two endings) and the only bug I had was that the scene to slave my pc didn't happen but that was because I enabled an option that adds more text, other than that I didn't have any bugs and even so if you have any bugs with the quest it's easy to solve via console, I helped a person a little while ago with this progression problem. Anyway, in this mod you will not only have a follower but most npcs will try to sexually abuse you, remembering that to have a dominant follower you have to be in the slave route (this is kind of obvious but I'm detailing things here xD ).

2- trouble heroine: several followers that will treat your mc like a sex toy and a punching bag, the only bug that this mod has is related to the vanilla marriage of the game but it can be solved through a mod that is listed on the description page do trouble heroine mod.

3- submissive lola + addon: mod is literally focused on the follower and pc relationship, submissive lola alone leaves the mod with a ''light enslavement'' but with the addon things get more intense, I recommend this mod if you just want a relationship mc and follower and not the entire world of skyrim with slavery.

4- devious followers : this mod is similar to submissive lola, and unlike submissive lola you need to be sold as a slave when being a follower or accepting that your follower is your master or mistress, in this mod your follower will charge you in gold to accompany you and if you don't have gold you will have to serve through bondage challenges, prostitution, sex until you get to the point of being officially enslaved until you pay your debt. This mod has stronger things than Lola too.