PubliusNV Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 My Skyrim SE is remarkably stable, but after playing for an hour or more I sometimes get a CTD after trading with a merchant. It always happens when I click to close the trading window. The crash is not reproducable, if I load the last save trading with the merchant works fine and I can play for another hour or so. The crash report I get contains this: Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FF7F974ACD7 (SkyrimSE.exe+12BACD7) on thread 27332! FrameworkName: NetScriptFramework FrameworkVersion: 15 FrameworkArchitecture: x64 GameLibrary: SkyrimSE GameLibraryVersion: 18 ApplicationName: SkyrimSE.exe ApplicationVersion: 1.5.97.0 VersionInfo: Successfully loaded Time: 01 Jul 2022 18:15:42.053 Possible relevant objects (6) { [ 1] ShadowSceneNode(Name: `shadow scene node`) [ 38] BSFadeNode(Name: `skeleton.nif`, Owner: `PlayerCharacter(FormId: 00000014, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `India`, FormId: 00000007, File: `Skyrim.esm`))`) [ 41] NiCamera(Name: `WorldRoot Camera`) [ 80] NiCamera(Name: null) [ 98] BSMultiBoundRoom(Name: null) [ 100] BSMultiBoundRoom(Name: null) } Probable callstack { [0] 0x7FF7F974ACD7 (SkyrimSE.exe+12BACD7) ShadowSceneNode::unk_12BACA0+37 [1] 0x7FF7F9749E91 (SkyrimSE.exe+12B9E91) ShadowSceneNode::unk_12B9DB0+E1 [2] 0x7FF7F974A7D0 (SkyrimSE.exe+12BA7D0) BSGeometryListCullingProcess::unk_12BA7A0+30 [3] 0x7FF7F8A419F9 (SkyrimSE.exe+5B19F9) Main::Draw_5B1860+199 [4] 0x7FF7F8A41832 (SkyrimSE.exe+5B1832) Main::unk_5B1710+122 [5] 0x7FF7F8A41301 (SkyrimSE.exe+5B1301) Main::unk_5B1020+2E1 [6] 0x7FF7F8A435C7 (SkyrimSE.exe+5B35C7) Main::Update_5B2FF0+5D7 [7] 0x7FFAD3211499 (hdtSMP64.dll+B1499) [8] 0x27DF51D9300 [9] 0x82036FF860 } Load order: Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp ETaC - RESOURCES.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm FISS.esp UHDAP - en0.esp UHDAP - en1.esp UHDAP - en2.esp UHDAP - en3.esp UHDAP - en4.esp UHDAP - MusicHQ.esp Landscape and Water Fixes.esp MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm MajesticMountains_Moss.esp JSwords.esm AHZmoreHUD.esl FarmhouseChimneys.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm CreatureFramework.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm SGEyebrows.esp High Poly Head.esm DynDOLOD.esm Hearthfires Houses Building Fix.esp UnlimitedBookshelves.esp SkyUI_SE.esp Skyrim Landscape and Water Fixes - Light Sources.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp MajesticMountains.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Beards.esp Brows.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp EyesFix.esp ReasonableMovementSpeed.esp chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge SSE.esp GIST soul trap.esp TavernAIFix.esp Disease Descriptions.esp GoOnAhead.esp BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp HereWeGoAgain.esp iHUD.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp RaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp ETaC - Complete.esp Cathedral Weathers.esp CathedralWeatherMCM.esp WondersofWeather.esp StormLightning.esp FNIS.esp J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp Craftable Locpicks - 10.esp FacelightPlus.esp FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp female mannequins.esp FNISSexyMove.esp KS Hairdo's.esp LeatherBackpackNoStraps-300.esp Mighty Magick Skyrim - Dragonborn.esp Proper Aiming.esp UIExtensions.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp Vidani's Bag of Holding.esp BOTI.esp BOTIXtra.esp JaxonzMapMarkers.esp PAN_Valerica.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SexlabAmmoUnequip.esp SexlabLightMeUp.esp AI Overhaul.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp Elemental_Staffs.esp xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp Mighty Magick Skyrim - Main.esp SexLab Confabulation.esp BetterQuestObjectives.esp Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp Point The Way.esp BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp Thieves Guild Requirements.esp TheChoiceIsYours.esp Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp CFTO.esp Run For Your Lives.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp MiniNeeds.esp Laura's Bondage Shop.esp Thornrock.esp Devious Cidhna.esp Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp raggedshortcut.esp SimpleSlavery.esp NARC SE for Vanilla.esp SexLab Pheromones.esp CrittersAintSnitches.esp BetterQuestObjectives - Wintersun Patch.esp BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp ETaC - Complete CFTO Patch.esp Svs Collection Jewelry.esp Blacksmith Chests.esp ETaC - Complete AI Overhaul Patch.esp PyP_Legendary.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp MF_RadiantProstitution.esp NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp submissivelola_est.esp BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp TimingIsEverything.esp Cutting Room Floor - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp The Choice is Yours - WACCF Consistency Patch.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp crimsonquestmarkers.esp WR_EnchantingTable2.esp Mors Feminine Females - All.esp Smelters_Riften & Solitude.esp SineadFollower.esp Serana.esp Grimoire.esp Minerva.esp 3BBB.esp Devious Devices SE patch.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp SLA Monitor Widget.esp SWT1.2.esp SexLab Vanilla Voices.esp SexLab_PaySexCrime.esp Wintersun - SexLab Integration.esp WintersunSLI - DD expansion.esp SlaveTats.esp RapeTattoos.esp FadeTattoos.esp SLAnimLoader.esp AnubAnimObj.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp SLAL_ProxyAnimObjects.esp CobaltAnimations.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp NCK30Obj.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp SexLab Extra Voices.esp SexLab UtilityPlus.esp Apropos2.esp TCIY BCS Patch.esp TCIY_CRF_Patch.esp TCIY_Wintersun_Patch.esp Unlimited Bookshelves - WACCF patch.esp WACCF - CRF Consistency Patch.esp JS Armored Circlets SE.esp SimplyKnock.esp AddItemMenuSE.esp Black Books Begone.esp BBB Scroll Rack.esp AMatterOfTime.esp AI Overhaul - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp Naked Defeat.esp Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - LFfGM.esp Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp Ish's Souls to Perks.esp FarmhouseChimneys - USSEP Patch.esp LycHairstyler.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp TheAlchemistHandbook.esp AI Overhaul - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp Enhanced Vanilla Trees SSE.esp AOS_Cathedral Weathers Patch.esp JaxonzMCMKicker.esp Immersive Autosaves.esp WetandCold.esp W&C - Cathedral Weathers Patch.esp Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - Relighting Skyrim.esp Wintersun - BCS Patch.esp dse-soulgem-oven.esp SexLab Dialogues SE Voice.esp Absolutely No Naked Comments.esp Cathedral Landscapes.esp icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp High Poly Head Vampire Fix.esp Laura's Bondage Shop - Katarina Makeover.esp Laura's Bondage Shop - Laura Makeover.esp Laura's Bondage Shop - Sona Makeover.esp Trade & Barter.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp Smithing Perks Overhaul SE.esp BookCoversSkyrim_CCOR_Patch.esp CCOR_JSwords_Patch.esp Dr_Bandolier_CCOR_Patch.esp CCOR Bandolier patch fixes.esp Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - CACO.esp CACO_True Fortify Effects for Magic Skills.esp Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp CACO_BookCoversSkyrim_Patch.esp CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp CACO_Wintersun.esp Lightweight Potions English 2.0.esp Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets SSE.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp ccas_starts.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp nwsFollowerFramework.esp Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Atlas Map Markers.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp DynDOLOD.esp Occlusion.esp SexLab Confabulation - TCIY Patch.esp Mannequins Behave.esp YASTM.esp YASTM_MCM.esp I can supply the rest of the crash report (register etc) and a mod list (in addition to the plugin list above) if needed. Thanks in advance for any advice.
Tlam99 Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 Version 5.80 fixed this nullpointer ctd. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230?tab=description
PubliusNV Posted July 2, 2022 Author Posted July 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, Tlam99 said: Version 5.80 fixed this nullpointer ctd. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230?tab=description Hmm, I'm already running version 5.8.3 of SSE Engine Fixes, which is the most current version for SE 1.5.97.
Tlam99 Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) Another possibility is a very large BSA. Had this issue once with a 1.8gb bsa. Now I set the limit to less than 1.5 and created 2 BSA in CAO. It points to VRAM full, cannot unload/load quick enough. I guess you also got the latest skeleton with the missing node fix. Edited July 2, 2022 by Tlam99 Corrected typos
PubliusNV Posted July 2, 2022 Author Posted July 2, 2022 My largest BSA is UHDAP - en1.bsa, which is 1.94GB. But would that cause a CTD only on exit from talking to merchants? In case it's relevant, I have 32GB RAM.
Tlam99 Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 If parts of this BSA show up in trade window a lot of data are shoveled around.
PubliusNV Posted July 2, 2022 Author Posted July 2, 2022 44 minutes ago, Tlam99 said: I guess you also got the latest skeleton with the missing node fix. I have XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended version 4.80, which is the current version on Nexus. 32 minutes ago, Tlam99 said: If parts of this BSA show up in trade window a lot of data are shoveled around. That mod is Unofficial High Definition Audio Project. Not sure if that would be associated with a merchant window, but perhaps the sound of closing the window is in it?
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