[WIP-Highly Incomplete]Alternative Cum Texture for SexLab

[Aegis]

I have always been a bit annoyed by the default cum textures that come with Sexlab, as I find them a bit too pixelated and lackluster...

 

This is just a little test. Highly experimental ATM, as specularity remains highly problematic.

 

I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to get the normals to work properly, since the textures work as an overlay, and there's no mesh for me to attach the normals onto...

 

Designed for UNP/UNPB, but this alpha 1 test release only includes face textures, and since there are only 2 body mods I know of that features custom head mesh (both private), this version should work for pretty much all body types.

 

 

Still working on other textures, but there are quite a few issues, such as problems applying separate specular map, and me struggling to get the overlay to work with my genitalia mods (it seems that textures can't *double dip*)...

 

 

Any help is welcome, of course.

 

 

Preview:

 

 

 

 

 

 

The goal (though, if I can't get the normals and the speculars to work properly, it'll probably remain a dream):

 

 

 

 

SexLab.7z

[BruceWayne]

I had a look at the textures yesterday, since I've noticed the "blockiness" too and had a general interest in how they are applied.

I'm not sure if one of the countless options in the effect tab amounts to something like emulating a normal map effect. I've tried to put a normal map in the texture folder to no effect (go figure), so my guess is that you can only work with the two texture options available. Normal/specularity mapping would be sweet though.

[Aegis]

As far as I know, you need to have a base mesh to apply the normal calculations onto, it's not something that can be simulated via effects.

 

In this case, since the texture is applied on top of the skin as an overlay, I can't really think of a way to apply the normal map to the said textures, and if there's no normal, specular/env/etc won't work either...

 

 

The only way, imo, is to actually go and create 3d models of the said textures, but that would present quite a few new problems...

[BruceWayne]

I'm aware of that. However, I'm not that familiar with skyrim's effect system, so I was more getting at "enhancing" the effect to make a normal map obsolete.

 

I don't know if this has changed, but the specular map was stored in the alpha channel of the normal map in previous games (Edit: nvm, I see what you did there). What could be possible though is creating animated objects, which in turn are .nifs and thus can be outfitted with any number of texturing options. However, I can't really say how feasible AOs are with the engine, regarding placement of the effect, conforming to bodytypes, stability issues, etc.

[Aegis]

Well, AOs, or even, just 3d meshes, would probably work, but getting them to stick properly on top of the actor body is going to be problematic, especially with all the different body variations and ninode adjustments..

[WaxenFigure]

The original cum texture was a HD texture but it caused a lot of systems to CTD, freeze up or showed black marks. The texture was then downgraded to a low res texture that is more compatible if not as good looking as it could be.

 

Here is the original high def texture 004hd4096.7z

 

It should be split into zones so the cum could be applied to the area(s) where the sex occured and then make some additional textures for each zone so after multiple sex acts the cum could build up.

[Aegis]

Well, the main problem I have is that without normal/spec, the textures look more like chalk than liquid, which makes me prefer to rather play with the textures disabled altogether...

[Aegis]

Quick mesh based version. Not ideal since the mesh would only work for the character it's designed for, as the various morphs/ninode adjustments would completely throw off the location of the mesh, and cause serious clipping issues...

 

But for what it's worth, at least spec/normals can be applied.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TSS5062]

Hello, forgive me for interloping.
I am not a modder, just a shopper, but I like to tweak things.
I have been working on applied textures like yours for a while now- just for personal use. Using the Adaptskins mod works ok for me in certain conditions.You have to make a complete set of texture files and it can't do the head. I made a complete head set but it puts an identical pattern on all females except custom races.
For the Sexis and sexlab textures I've just tried to improve on the diffuse map by using varying transparency and a faux reflection. These are admittedly flawed in ways but show potential.

I have never posted before so I don't know the rules about uploading, some of this stuff is modified from other peoples work. Namely Sceph's alternate bukkake textures.
If this looks interesting to somebody I could work on a set and upload.

I think it would be great if there was a large library of peoples patterns to draw on, mabey an MCM option?

[Leito86]

Looks like they just did a horse with the amount of cum.

 

However I do dig color, fullness and sheen .

[TSS5062]

They are alright , but they will need counseling.

 

These are tests- large and not too subtle

[azmodan22]

For the textures I made for my game I did find that there are no head textures. Istead the texture that is used for the head is actually the body texture but a lot smaller. The breasts zone of the body is actually the lips zone for the head. 

[sidfu]

hoply u guys get this workign good. btw aegis what hair and skin mod are those u using

 

[Aegis]

Oops, completely forgot about this mod.

 

@TSS5062

 

If you want to upload, by all means.

 

 

@sidfu

 

Body is SG texture renewal, hair is probably Oblivion hair pack or SG hair pack, I don't quite remember.

[Guest]

Hello, forgive me for interloping.

I am not a modder, just a shopper, but I like to tweak things.

I have been working on applied textures like yours for a while now- just for personal use. Using the Adaptskins mod works ok for me in certain conditions.You have to make a complete set of texture files and it can't do the head. I made a complete head set but it puts an identical pattern on all females except custom races.

For the Sexis and sexlab textures I've just tried to improve on the diffuse map by using varying transparency and a faux reflection. These are admittedly flawed in ways but show potential.

 

I have never posted before so I don't know the rules about uploading, some of this stuff is modified from other peoples work. Namely Sceph's alternate bukkake textures.

If this looks interesting to somebody I could work on a set and upload.

 

I think it would be great if there was a large library of peoples patterns to draw on, mabey an MCM option?

 

Looks great, except for the first pic where the cum on the mouth doesn't look natural and the cum on the body almost looks like water. I think if you fill the edges with white it would look better. However, even in it's current state they are interesting. Any chance you can upload those?

 

[TSS5062]

Here is something to tryout

In Photoshop,
I took your file and added two alpha channels (2 copies of Alpha 1)

One is a blurred version of your alpha with ramped up highlights (used levels)

Used that channel to select Alpha copy 2, apply "Plastic wrap" filter, it should be in the standard filter set.

Viola, a realistic looking gloss.

I know, It's no specular map, but you will be surprised at how good it looks in game.
As for the normal map, great if you can get it to work but I think we are stuck with 1 overlay
They are very touchy; too much and everything will look like shaving cream.

My facial pic of Lydia has a diffuse, specular and normal installed and it looks a bit dull from the normal map.
Note: notice the blocky nose texture, I forgot to use the 8-8-8-8 dds pixel depth.

Also try cranking up the specular options of ENB.

One more interesting thought; Do you use EDialog?
Unpack that mod and look at the nif head mesh and blush textures in nifscope.
I bet somebody could apply something like that to a splatter texture.

[blademech42]

Looks really good.

 

How difficult is it to add a mixture of clear shine and solid white parts?

ie. In the drop, the top is clear and shiny, while the bottom half is solid white and shiny.

[TSS5062]

When making a cummy texture you have to start with a good Alpha channel base. Its the hardest part and takes the longest.

The one Aegis made is excellent. It looks good on its own.

but to get all the highlights with the plasticwrap filter you have to have a lot of subtle grayscale variation and an alpha channel to contain the effect of the filter.

It's a lot of trial and error.

[TSS5062]

I was gonna put some textures up but there are a bunch of things to clean up first.

Sorry

[TSS5062]

 

Hello, forgive me for interloping.

I am not a modder, just a shopper, but I like to tweak things.

I have been working on applied textures like yours for a while now- just for personal use. Using the Adaptskins mod works ok for me in certain conditions.You have to make a complete set of texture files and it can't do the head. I made a complete head set but it puts an identical pattern on all females except custom races.

For the Sexis and sexlab textures I've just tried to improve on the diffuse map by using varying transparency and a faux reflection. These are admittedly flawed in ways but show potential.

 

I have never posted before so I don't know the rules about uploading, some of this stuff is modified from other peoples work. Namely Sceph's alternate bukkake textures.

If this looks interesting to somebody I could work on a set and upload.

 

I think it would be great if there was a large library of peoples patterns to draw on, mabey an MCM option?

 

Looks great, except for the first pic where the cum on the mouth doesn't look natural and the cum on the body almost looks like water. I think if you fill the edges with white it would look better. However, even in it's current state they are interesting. Any chance you can upload those?

 

 

 

The Thing about SexLab textures is, as touched upon higher in the thread, The head cum is the body cum conforming to the head mesh.

Look closely at the chest and mouth.  My screenshot won't really help, you have to see it in game.

So, do you design to target the mouth or the chest?

 

Bri's body texture is so smooth that it is very unforgiving. Doesn't the bathouse guard look better (last pic)?

Some textures look great on black skin and practically disappear on white skin.

 

But I take your point, that texture is a WIP.

 

[blademech42]

Now that you mention it, I see the similarities of the 2 cumspat on the face and body.

[TSS5062]

Interesting,

I've always kept it going because it seems to be the only avenue to have a custom nudesuit to give a follower.

The head never worked for me, I placed textures in the custom file but could never see results.

I think its a good mod.

 

Edit: Oh I see, I would need a head mesh as well to receive the texture.

 

By the way, the body I use is a cbbe, tbbp, cubic hair, highly bodyslided mesh, and it never crashed adaptskins. But I never use it for extended periods.

 

In Oblivion there is a LPK mod called Tamango Discharge which adds a facial mesh that clips through the face to look like cum.

It's not very good. One that was somehow attached to the lower jaw and moved with speech would be great.

[Funkcikle]

Hello, forgive me for interloping.

I am not a modder, just a shopper, but I like to tweak things.

I have been working on applied textures like yours for a while now- just for personal use. Using the Adaptskins mod works ok for me in certain conditions.You have to make a complete set of texture files and it can't do the head. I made a complete head set but it puts an identical pattern on all females except custom races.

For the Sexis and sexlab textures I've just tried to improve on the diffuse map by using varying transparency and a faux reflection. These are admittedly flawed in ways but show potential.

 

I have never posted before so I don't know the rules about uploading, some of this stuff is modified from other peoples work. Namely Sceph's alternate bukkake textures.

If this looks interesting to somebody I could work on a set and upload.

 

I think it would be great if there was a large library of peoples patterns to draw on, mabey an MCM option?

I wonder, is it possible to make these textures into a replacer for those default ones that come (no pun intended) with the sexlab framework. They look fukin awesome , and I would really like to be able to use them in my game.

[Konak]

Does this mod replace sperm texture?

[TSS5062]

 

Hello, forgive me for interloping.

I am not a modder, just a shopper, but I like to tweak things.

I have been working on applied textures like yours for a while now- just for personal use. Using the Adaptskins mod works ok for me in certain conditions.You have to make a complete set of texture files and it can't do the head. I made a complete head set but it puts an identical pattern on all females except custom races.

For the Sexis and sexlab textures I've just tried to improve on the diffuse map by using varying transparency and a faux reflection. These are admittedly flawed in ways but show potential.

 

I have never posted before so I don't know the rules about uploading, some of this stuff is modified from other peoples work. Namely Sceph's alternate bukkake textures.

If this looks interesting to somebody I could work on a set and upload.

 

I think it would be great if there was a large library of peoples patterns to draw on, mabey an MCM option?

I wonder, is it possible to make these textures into a replacer for those default ones that come (no pun intended) with the sexlab framework. They look fukin awesome , and I would really like to be able to use them in my game.

 

 

The textures I made are two different things:

 

1) the body texture is a SexLab texture replacer I made from the Alt-UNP texture form the downloads section.

I was using it as an example of how you can "push" the limited decal texture system to look more realistic given the current framework.

Because the texture is borrowed I'm hesitant to upload it without permission. And it is a little crude right now.

I was trying to put some ideas out there.

 

2) The facial texture is really a novelty, I just wanted to see what a full texture (diffuse, normal, and specular) could look like.

It will NOT work with Sexlab- yet. You can use it to replace female textures globally (all females), or on a standalone character with their own texture set.

Not very useful except for screenshots or making one naughty follower.

WARNING: Don't use this unless you know where textures go and what they do. Make backups before overwriting anything.

especially if you use texblend. I have to admit to feeling some shame for making this. I would hate to have you stuck with this.

 

I believe what Aegis is working on is a full-on 3d mesh which would accept a full texture set and be applied on command.

It is the holy grail for the sex scene climax. That, along with the ejaculation animation and we have full pornographic movie stuff.

 

It may all be too much to ask of Skyrim.

 

I think all this may belong in a different thread

 

PS: Removed files so they don't get switched to downloads