kaitlin86 Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) I keep getting a CTD in and around Concord but can't seem to figure what's causing it. I've tried removing everything I can think of that might be conflicting or that affects the Concord area with no luck. I'm using a vanilla save to load in each time I change something and have even tried doing a complete wipe and reinstall. I'm also Vortex to install almost all my mods with may 3 that require something done manually. My load order is below and I've attached my Buffout 4 Crash Log. Any help would be greatly appreciated =^.^=     0 0    Fallout4.esm  1 1    DLCRobot.esm  2 2    DLCworkshop01.esm  3 3    DLCCoast.esm  4 4    DLCworkshop02.esm  5 5    DLCworkshop03.esm  6 6    DLCNukaWorld.esm  7 7    Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp  8 8    XDI.esm  9 9    ArmorKeywords.esm  10 a    WorkshopFramework.esm 254 FE  0 PPF.esm  11 b    VotWMaster.esm 254 FE  1 VotWSpecialVideos.esl 254 FE  2 WashOutThatCum.esl 254 FE  3 flamerproject4k.esl 254 FE  4 Small blur Crafting screen background.esl 254 FE  5 MWSentryTurret.esl 254 FE  6 ShrinesandGods.esl 254 FE  7 HCKTerminalHack.esl 254 FE  8 nukaproject.esl  12 c    PANPC.esm  13 d    PACE.esm 254 FE  9 MoreWildlife.esl  14 e    Knockout Framework.esm 254 FE  a Friendly Raider.esl 254 FE  b HiPolyFacesCompanionPlugin.esl 254 FE  c Fireflies.esl 254 FE  d Explosive Bullets Impact.esl 254 FE  e Dogs can grab player.esl 254 FE  f CROSS_VertibirdFlightsuit.esl 254 FE 10 CleanInstitute.esl  15 f    SS2.esm  16 10    SS2_XPAC_Chapter2.esm 254 FE 11 Skb_MachinegunsRebirth.esl 254 FE 12 BetterCoastalWaves.esl 254 FE 13 LushAmbience.esl 254 FE 14 CityAmbience.esl 254 FE 15 TSSMSR.esl 254 FE 16 Better Stealth Boy.esl 254 FE 17 Automatron Randomized Bots Framework.esm 254 FE 18 I'm A Raider Dammit - 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Cazador Missile Launcher - Missile Launchers.esp 254 FE b2 Modern Weapon Replacer - Cazador Missile Launcher - Fat Man.esp 254 FE b3 SS2AOP_VaultTecTools.esp 231 e7    TacticalTablet_LMCC.esp 254 FE b4 PRP.esp 254 FE b5 PRP-SS2-Fixes.esp 254 FE b6 PRP-SS2.esp 254 FE b7 PRP-Compat-UIL.esp 254 FE b8 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp 232 e8    M8r Complex Sorter.esp   crash-2022-06-18-07-48-35.log Edited June 18, 2022 by kaitlin86
Nuka Cherry Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) The save that is crashing - is it a low level save (i.e. you run from the vault to Concord as soon as possible)?  Concord is part of the triangle of death - including Abernathy, Sanctuary and Red Rocket. If you have developed more than 1 of these settlements (with Sim Settlements or without) then the game tries to load all of them as the cells they occupy overlap in the games loaded cells - i.e. when you run around there is a grid around you of pre-loaded cells, and beth stupidly put 3 settlements and a town with scripted events into an area that can load all three (the worst spot is just near the dead Brahmin on the road). This causes the game to meltdown (see also Boston).  Or it is beantown interiors which I think you have installed. That mod is unstable.  And I just saw you have Crime and Punishment installed... and Sim Settlements .... ok, you need to be realistic about the script demands you can manage. I would not recommend both (flashy has said not to do both). Edited June 20, 2022 by Nuka Cherry
kaitlin86 Posted June 20, 2022 Author Posted June 20, 2022 I have a quickstart vanilla save right before exiting the vault that I like to use for new games/troubleshooting. I crash both if I head straight to Concord as well as if I hang out in Sanctuary and clear/scavenge/craft some. I can get closer to Concord than the brahmin pretty consistently before crashing. Most commonly I crash close to the fallen street light just south of there. I considered that the Immersive series might be an issue with SS2 and tried uninstalling those and loading up the vanilla save with now luck. Sad to hear that SS2 and CaP don't work well together, I love the stuff CaP does but wanted to try SS2. I'll try removing CaP and booting up again, that might be the problem, overloading with scripts. Thanks for the reply and I'll let you know it worked. =^.^=
kaitlin86 Posted June 20, 2022 Author Posted June 20, 2022 Had a chance to try removing CaP with no luck sadly =/
kaitlin86 Posted June 21, 2022 Author Posted June 21, 2022 The thing that's really confusing me is that I had a super game durning my last playthrough and even if I remove the mods I added for this one I'm still crashing. And like the crash log points to the mod in slot 14 but if I remove that one I keep crashing and the log keeps saying it's number 14 >.<
kaitlin86 Posted June 22, 2022 Author Posted June 22, 2022 By doing a complete reinstall and using MO2 instead of Vortex I was able to find and resolve the issue. If you are using Modern Firearms the MF Mags and MF Vertibird Minigun Replacer on Nexus are NOT compatible
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