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Aloha all!

 

I have 2 problem and i hope i can get some help.

 

First: if i equip an armor or clothing first everything looks good, but after a few minutes my character's body become invisible. Vanilla armors and a few mod (like X-92 Courser) not affected, but things like VTAW's and Sirius armor do. Im guessing its some conflict, but i have no idea how to resolve it - tried a lot of reinstall/load order change but no luck.

 

Second is a big problem. After 25+ hours game, npc's and creatures become unresponsive. They just stand still, no conversations/attack etc. Companions draw weapons if i do, but they freeze too. Im guessing SS2 needs to go and a new game is the only working option, but maybe someone has a better solution.

 

Heres my load order:

 

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Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
CanarySaveFileMonitor.esl
BetterCoastalWaves.esl
DDLL.esl
WorkshopFramework.esm
HUDFramework.esm
KillTips_by_tooun.esl
nukaproject.esl
HiPolyFacesCompanionPlugin.esl
ImmersiveDogmeat.esl
Fireflies.esl
CoAFanaticsGirl.esl
COCO-LaceBody.esl
CROSS_CoA.esl
ClassicBobbleheads.esl
MMMFO4.esl
Homemaker.esm
NewWalls.esl
StandaloneWorkbenches.esl
CWSS Redux.esp
BrightLightsBigCity.esl
SettlementFixerBot.esl
SettlementMedicBot.esl
SS2.esm
SS2_XPAC_Chapter2.esm
NPSShopping.esl
EnclavePack.esl
AAF.esm
AAFThemes.esl
Bememoth Separated Cart.esl
dogmeatsnewtrick.esl
Slower Leveling 50%.esl
Rusty Face Fix.esl
GCM_DLC_Automatron.esl
GCM_DLC_Far_Harbor.esl
MWSentryTurret.esl
ChCl.esl
def_inv_scrap_en.esp
M8r_Item_Tags_Vanilla_EN.esp
M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp
LooksMenu.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
FO4HHS_AAF.esp
mm journals.esp
BodyTalk3.esp
FusionGirl.esp
ZeX-BodyGen.esp
HiPolyFaces.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
KSHairdos.esp
TBOS-AntoHairPack.esp
KSHairsFemsheppingRadbeetle.esp
RutahTattooPack_FO4.esp
LKsCait - Bully..esp
LKsCurieFrench.esp
EveryonesBestFriend.esp
LKsPiperReplacer.esp
llamaCompanionHeatherv2.esp
Kasumi_Naia.esp
FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
NiceBush.esp
Facials.esp
ModdableRobotSettlers.esp
Animated Drinking.esp
DX_FetishFashion_Part1.esp
HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp
ASA.esp
DX_Banshee_Recon_Armor.esp
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
Another Pine Forest Mod.esp
Dickys Pinup Outfit.esp
AngeliTech suit.esp
NanoSuit.esp
Piercing collection by MAIBATSU.esp
StartMeUp.esp
DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp
Shino Vault Pack.esp
DX_Black_Widow.esp
Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp
DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
SavrenX HD Vanilla Armor.esp
SavrenX HD Vanilla Clothes Optimized.esp
SavrenX HD DLC Armor and Clothes.esp
MyCart_Biohazard.esp
HN66-SiriusArmor.esp
Crimson_Punk_Outfit.esp
Venus_Nine_FG.esp
Stylish_Bloomer_FG.esp
CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp
CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp
CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp
VtawWardrobe1.esp
rpampas.esp
TheKite_MilitiaWoman.esp
Girls Workshop.esp
GW1stPersonFix.esp
Friffy_Piper Outfit_Standalone.esp
K9TacticalHarness.esp
SavrenXHdDlcPowerArmor.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
Ambient Wasteland.esp
BarefootFootstepSet.esp
AtomicRadio.esp
3DNPC_FO4.esp
3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp
Censor_Comments.esp
ImmersiveGenericDialogues.esp
DrunkMod-LevelBased.esp
BottelingWater.esp
Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esp
DLC ammo.esp
EasyHacking.esp
FirstPersonMessagesMerged.esp
Immersive resistences Perks.esp
Laser Weapon Sound FIX.esp
No Mirelurk Hatchlings.esp
Nuka Cola Girl Magazine.esp
One Minutemen Radiant Quest At A Time.esp
CK-SimpleCritsOutsideVATS.esp
Project Reality Footsteps FO4.esp
LongfellowCabin_Bridge.esp
ImmersiveBeantown.esp
Realistic Death Physics - ALL DLC.esp
Realistic_conversations.esp
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
AutoDoors.esp
BAM-BetterArmoryMod.esp
EOLCoADecor.esp
Eli_Immersive Coffee Mod 9000 GTX French Roast.esp
Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture.esp
LooksMirror.esp
LongerPowerLines3x.esp
MYBlackWidowBed.esp
move that workbench!.esp
SettlementMenuManager.esp
AkaSinger.esp
AkaSinger-QuieterSoundPatch.esp
AkaSingersWardrobe.esp
SettlementPrivacy.esp
SLR.esp
KLPostersAdult.esp
creativeclutter.esp
dinoshelf.esp
evan_modular kitchen.esp
SolarPower.esp
NaiRaeCozyScavver.esp
EvilViking13_WastelandWalls.esp
DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp
stumbleuponinteriors.esp
Universal Working Bathroom Fixtures (CWSS and DLCs).esp
Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul Redux.esp
Vault88 - Essentials.esp
W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
CREAtiveGardens.esp
BetterGenerators.esp
CREAtiveGardens_Summer.esp
cVc Dead Wasteland 6.esp
cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC.esp
cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC2.esp
cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC3.esp
cVc Dead Wasteland 6 AutoDoors_Patch.esp
WWE.esp
WWE_Garage.esp
SS2Extended.esp
SS2Addon_MS_BareEssentials.esp
SS2-PraRandomAddon.esp
SS2_ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp
ohSIM_Sim2_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon.esp
SS2_SIMPDDDD.esp
SS2WastelandVenturers.esp
SS2_CityPlanPack_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
SS2_FDK_TinyLiving.esp
ss2radiantpower.esp
Canopies.esp
BetterSettlers.esp
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp
BetterSettlersMostlyFemale.esp
Fixed Alpha Map.esp
Fallout 4 Ultimate Window Overhaul.esp
DecentElevators.esp
Better High Tech Lights.esp
Organised Vendors.esp
SkipHSH1_6.esp
CuredMoleratDisease.esp
RobcoFunMagazine.esp
SanctuaryDoors.esp
ShelteredBeds.esp
Durable Vehicles x10.esp
PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp
The Collector's Guides AIO.esp
Nuka-World Collectable Markers.esp
Weapon Scrapping Redone.esp
Lightweight Lighting.esp
AnimatedCandles.esp
CR-TrainBar_Candles.esp
JNFA.esp
Wasteland Illumination.esp
Wetness Shader Fix.esp
Look At Me RE.esp
Look At Me IE.esp
PAMAP.esp
AER15.esp
CazadorML.esp
Glock19x.esp
M1A.esp
G36Complex.esp
HK_MP5.esp
Mossberg500.esp
AVBPipeGunsReplace.esp
Quad_RAWLauncher.esp
ThompsonSMGReplacer.esp
WattzLaserGun.esp
spacefiddle_WattzSoundAndReverb.esp
Energy Weapon Replacer - AER15 - Institute Guns.esp
Energy Weapon Replacer - AER15 - Laser Guns.esp
Energy Weapon Replacer - Wattz Laser Gun - Laser Muskets.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Cazador Missile Launcher - Fat Man.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Glock 19x FX0x01 - 10mm Pistols.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Glock 19x FX0x01 - Gamma Guns.esp
TrainBar.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Mossberg 500 - Combat Shotguns.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Projectile Rocket Launcher - Missile Launchers.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Springfield Armory M1A - Lever Action Rifles.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - MP5 Complex - Submachine Guns.esp
ASVektor.esp
3dscopes-m1a.esp
3dscopes-replacer-vektor.esp
3dscopes-replacer-wattz.esp
3dscopes-replacer.esp
McMillanCS5.esp
McMillan CS5 - See Through Combat Scopes Patch.esp
MP-412.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - MP-412 - .44 Revolvers.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - G36 Complex - Assault Rifles.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - G36 Complex - Combat Rifles.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - G36 Complex - Plasma Guns.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - G36 Complex - Radium Rifles.esp
ECO.esp
ECO_CrossBrotherhoodRecon.esp
ECO_CrossCourserStrigidae.esp
ECO_CROSSInstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp
SS2_NobodysLeaders2_NukaWorld.esp
ECO_EliArmourCompendium.esp
ECO_TheKiteHandmaidenVanillaWB.esp
ECO_WeAreTheMinutemen.esp
somebodysangel_ECO_LookatMeIE.esp
somebodysangel_ECO_LookatMeRE.esp
4estGimp_StandaloneWorkbenches_ECO_Patch.esp
ECO_ModernMechanix.esp
Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp
AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp
SnapdragonAnimations.esp
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp
AAF_GrayAnimations.esp
SS2_NobodysLeaders2_VaultTecWorkshop.esp
Mutated Lust.esp
AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp
BraveAnims.esp
SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
rxl_bp70_animations.esp
Atomic Lust.esp
Farelle_Animations.esp
Rufgt's Animations.esp
Ak5C.esp
Behemoth No Cart.esp
BraveAnims_Fix.esp
Deathclaw_nude.esp
ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp
Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
SMBehemoth Loincloth.esp
SuperMutantFreezeFix.esp
UAP Moans.esp
OppaiMilkPasties.esp
Alex_Stripper_Pole_2.esp
Alex_Stripper_Pole_Working_Hours.esp
AAF_AutonomyEnhanced.esp
FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp
FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced_DLC_Doctors_Addon.esp
AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp
SexEd.esp
AAF_SEU.esp
AAF_Spectators.esp
AAF_Violate.esp
AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp
FPEDogAddon.esp
FPESuperMutantAddon.esp
DegenerateAnimeMags.esp
AnimalLoverWastelandSeducer.esp
DiamondCityPlus.esp
DCVendorClutter.esp
FallonsBasementOverhaul.esp
Hunkered Down - No AtomCatsGarage.esp
Hunkered Down.esp
AtomCatGarage.esp
DiamondCityGateMapMarker.esp
EMIB.esp
Fixed_Rexford.esp
Phase4DLC.esp
CrimeTown.esp
Fallout 4 AI Overhaul.esp
Fallout 4 AI Overhaul - Welcome to Fallon's Revisited Patch.esp
Fallout 4 AI Overhaul - Better Goodneighbor Patch.esp
BetterTrains.esp
Fixed flickering puddles.esp
Zaz Particle Effects.esp
Rsiyo'sLocationPack.esp
MS SS2 Unlock Vanilla Recruitable Vendors.esp
SS2_NobodysLeaders2.esp
SS2_NobodysLeaders2_Automatron.esp
Patch 3DNPC_Brothel_AAF.esp
Better_Settlement_Defence.esp
Fog Remover II (AIO) Recommended.esp
HappyMaker.esp
Charisma_Wedding_Rings.esp
GCM.esp
Stop Hammering V1.0.esp
workbench.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

 

Posted
20 hours ago, jahrn said:

Aloha all!

 

I have 2 problem and i hope i can get some help.

 

First: if i equip an armor or clothing first everything looks good, but after a few minutes my character's body become invisible. Vanilla armors and a few mod (like X-92 Courser) not affected, but things like VTAW's and Sirius armor do. Im guessing its some conflict, but i have no idea how to resolve it - tried a lot of reinstall/load order change but no luck.

 

Second is a big problem. After 25+ hours game, npc's and creatures become unresponsive. They just stand still, no conversations/attack etc. Companions draw weapons if i do, but they freeze too. Im guessing SS2 needs to go and a new game is the only working option, but maybe someone has a better solution.

 

Heres my load order:

 

 

 

 

OK, after a few minutes is the odd thing.  Normally this would be indicative of a Body Slide rebuild for your preferred body type (FG).  Now pulling in the second issue and how much memory (RAM) do you have on your GPU and in the PC?  

 

I don't necessarily think you have that issue because Sirius armor isn't all that load heavy, but it does have a "reflective" style that could make it drop off if you are maxing out RAM usage.     Did  you notice (recently) a drop in FPS?

 

Now, taking your second issue by itself, what is happening is AI is breaking.   Typically this happens when you go "invisible" to the NPCs, as they aren't doing anything when you are not near them (that way, you won't have a raider roaming away from their spot at Corvega while you are just getting Sanctuary operational).   

 

I am not an SS2 mod user as I have heard it has many compatibility issues with other mods, though I have heard that SS2 makes FO4 a different, but enjoyable game altogether.    One possible solution is to have two profiles for your mod build, essentially two separate games, so if you want to do FO4 sims style, you play your SS2 loadout, if you want to play FO4 FO4 style, then you pick that one.  

 

I would look to memory and FPS management first, as outfits not being compatible would turn your body invisible right away.    Also, I did not see it in your load out, but may have missed it:  Do you have mods that make clothes get dirty?  Does your CWSS apply dirt layers to everything or just your body?

Posted

The disappearing armour after a few minutes or seconds is an issue with the physics settings of the body. Install:

 Select the option that allows bounce in all armours/clothing. Do not select the option that stops bounce when wearing armour. You will also need one of CBP physics v0.1.8+ (if using CBP) or OCBP physics v2.2.5 if using OCBP.

 

Install as follows:

  1. Bodytalk
  2. Fusion Girl
  3. CBP or OCBP
  4. MTM Preset with the correct settings.
  5. Zex

 

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The game suffering script death is not good. Have you tried using SKK's script latency detector in game (https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/35853)? (I can recommend all of their mods, really lightweight and really improve gameplay).

 

As to SS2, I love it, and I only run it on a Magnum Opus wabbajack install with a very light AAF pack on top, and I only develop 1 settlement as a SS2 monster (always starlight drive in as it far away from other script hubs). It is a beastie.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted

Ty guys for the reply.

 

I have 16Gb RAM, and 8Gb VRAM. 

And i have exactly this OCBP installed, however i selected stop bounce in armor... Is it enough if a reinstall this or do i need to reinstall all 5 mods?

 

 About the NPC freeze, i levelled before the freezing started, and i did choose stealth 5. I will try to delevel that skill through console maybe that will give me something (esp since i did choose the +stealth option on sirius so maybe the problem is somewhere here).

 

About SS2: i love this mod, its probably the No.1 for Fallout 4.  I think the mod's only problem is the game engine, no matter how much Beth tuning it its still 25 years old

 

Posted

Okay, armors not disapperaing anymore, simply OCBP reinstall and choosing bounce always did the trick. Ty Nuka Cherry.

 

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