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Posted

I know that this has been asked Many times, and I have searched for the answers.

 

My load order as far as I can tell is incorrect - and I'm using the load order suggested in the PK Faq.

 

What happens is when I try to initiate any kind of scene the two actors will simply stand there, sound will play and I can end the scene by advancing with the jump key - but no animations are played.

I am certain it is my load order, because it worked up until I changed it.

 

Here is My Load order that doesn't play animations at all:

 

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

BreakUndies.esm

LoversCreature.esm

CM Partners.esm

x117race.esm

xeorace.esm

xeoracex117.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

xeoex.esp

xeoex Vwalk.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Better_Water-1830.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

FemaleArmorPack1.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp

Players with Jobs.esp

SMChorrol.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights Vwalk UOP.esp

CoverYourself.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

RemoveTrainerBounds.esp

LoversSetBody.esp

LoversSetScale.esp

LoversFSE.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp

LoversTachiCat2.esp

LoversJoburg.esp

LoversBed.esp

LoversPayBandit.esp

LoversPower.esp

LoversContraception.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversBitch.esp

LoversCreature.esp

LoversCreatureExtender.esp

Lovers with PK Extender.esp

LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp

LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp

LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp

LoversBackup2.esp

LoversStopCombatEx.esp

LoversSpermSplashEx.esp

LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp

LoversRapeSlave.esp

LoversLight.esp

LoversHideMenus.esp

LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp

SetBody.esp

Mighty Magick - Core.esp

Mighty Magick - Magicka Pool Progression.esp

Mighty Magick - Side Effects.esp

Mighty Magick - Sigil Stones.esp

Mighty Magick - Restore Magicka Potions [Vanilla].esp

MidasSpells.esp

Midas Betterholy.esp

FrostcragMidasLab.esp

MidasSpells - MMR Patch.esp

Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp

Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

LoversOblivionXP.esp

SP1stPLegs.esp

CM Partners.esp

Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp

CM Partners Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp

DAJadeAmberSheevaTabaxi.esp

DS Flaming Arrows.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

Lovers3dorgasm.esp

Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp

LoversAdultYield.esp

Marg Lena V2.esp

Mixed Maid Uniform.esp

Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.esp

LoversMB2.esp

 

 

-BTW, not all of those lovers mods are even in the text file. So I left the ones that weren't listed where BOSS put them.

 

Here is a load order, after trying BOSS (which kinda, sorta works - ignore XEOex, I know where it is supposed to be):

 

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

BreakUndies.esm

LoversCreature.esm

CM Partners.esm

x117race.esm

xeorace.esm

xeoracex117.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

xeoex.esp

xeoex Vwalk.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Better_Water-1830.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

FemaleArmorPack1.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp

Players with Jobs.esp

SMChorrol.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights Vwalk UOP.esp

CoverYourself.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

RemoveTrainerBounds.esp

LoversSetBody.esp

LoversSetScale.esp

LoversFSE.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp

LoversTachiCat2.esp

LoversJoburg.esp

LoversBed.esp

LoversPayBandit.esp

LoversPower.esp

LoversContraception.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversBitch.esp

LoversCreature.esp

LoversCreatureExtender.esp

Lovers with PK Extender.esp

LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp

LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp

LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp

LoversBackup2.esp

LoversStopCombatEx.esp

LoversSpermSplashEx.esp

LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp

LoversRapeSlave.esp

LoversLight.esp

LoversHideMenus.esp

LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp

SetBody.esp

Mighty Magick - Core.esp

Mighty Magick - Magicka Pool Progression.esp

Mighty Magick - Side Effects.esp

Mighty Magick - Sigil Stones.esp

Mighty Magick - Restore Magicka Potions [Vanilla].esp

MidasSpells.esp

Midas Betterholy.esp

FrostcragMidasLab.esp

MidasSpells - MMR Patch.esp

Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp

Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

LoversOblivionXP.esp

SP1stPLegs.esp

CM Partners.esp

Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp

CM Partners Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp

DAJadeAmberSheevaTabaxi.esp

DS Flaming Arrows.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

Lovers3dorgasm.esp

Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp

LoversAdultYield.esp

Marg Lena V2.esp

Mixed Maid Uniform.esp

Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.esp

LoversMB2.esp

 

 

Any suggestions? - I can switch between either in a heartbeat.

 

Another curiosity - I am using OOO, and midas magic but the icons for spells aren't what they should be - I still have the default icons.

That, and a savegame I have in chorrol simply won't load no matter how hard I try.

Posted

Lovers with PK.esp should be last, after all normal lovers esps

 

Lovers with PK Extender.esp goes after the above plugin (i grouped it with the below plugins)

 

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp and LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp go after all other lovers plugins...or even almost all other plugins...even the wyre bash patch

 

the rest you will have to fix on your own,I thought it more important to get your lovers system working...there is a guide in the lovers section that gives you a general idea of where lovers mods should go in relation each other and normal mods,it's a sticky in the lovers with pk thread/section

 

Posted

Thanks, I have read the FAQ though - but still can't seem to get it to work.

 

I will first reinstall the mods, before trying anything else - maybe the skeleton I'm using could be the problem (BBB dr6 UVII skeleton patch).

 

Thanks anyway, I will play around with it a bit more until I can get it right.

Posted

Thanks' date=' I have read the FAQ though - but still can't seem to get it to work.

 

I will first reinstall the mods, before trying anything else - maybe the skeleton I'm using could be the problem (BBB dr6 UVII skeleton patch).

 

Thanks anyway, I will play around with it a bit more until I can get it right.

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I use the universal skeleton by growlf for the main and the same BBB DR6 skeleton patch for the 1st person so that is fine. :)

 

The load order found on the txt file at the bottom of the 1st post is the one you should be paying attention to:

 

I have revised your load order per the FAQ:

 

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

x117race.esm

CM Partners.esm

xeorace.esm

xeoracex117.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

LoversCreature.esm

BreakUndies.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

 

All other esp's - let Boss sort them then hand order the lovers files below

 

CoverYourself.esp

LoversRapeSlave.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp

LoversTachiCat2.esp

LoversRaperS.esp <----missing go get at: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=26

LoversJoburg.esp

LoversBed.esp

LoversPayBandit.esp

LoversPower.esp

LoversLight.esp

LoversFSE.esp

LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

Lovers with PK Extender.esp

LoversBitch.esp

LoversSetBody.esp

LoversSetScale.esp

LoversContraception.esp

LoversAdultYield.esp

LoversOblivionXP.esp

LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp

LoversStopCombatEx.esp

LoversSpermSplashEx.esp

LoversHideMenus.esp

LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp

LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp

LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp

Lovers3dorgasm.esp

LoversMB2.esp

Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp

LoversCreature.esp

LoversCreatureExtender.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

 

 

LoversBackup2.esp <---------delete as this is built into lovers with pk v91

 

 

 

Holler if you have any further questions or difficulties :)

Posted

Ah, thanks - I am in the process of reinstalling each mod individually, and checking the effects on a clean save (Thanks to that i found out that 'Darnified ui' was crashing my game due to not having a clean save - and i had oblivionxp and hud status bars on that save).

 

 

After that I will try the load order.

 

In case it makes a difference - I am using the AIO omod which has most of the plugins.

 

Oh, and btw - I actually do have lovers RaperS, just uninstalled it temporarily.

 

Will tell you if anything goes awry.

Posted

You don't HAVE to have loverRaperS but since you had loversRapeSlave and joberg it made sense to get it :)

 

You have the right idea just add in your base mods get things functioning well then make a backup and add more, test and backup and so on and so on and you will avoid one hell of a mess.....unless your just really, really, really lucky :)

 

Holler if you need further help. I pop in and out so it may take a bit to get back to you. However there are other fine folk here that will jump in to help as well so don't give up! :)

Posted

Thanks gregathit,

I will check my load order against yours. I just discovered that Wrye Bash does not adopt the load order given by OBMM or BOSS, it just tears it apart. At the same time Wrye Bash makes my installation a lot faster by ghosting unused PIs. thsi means I have to run OBMM again after using Wrye Bash.

Maybe some more users of this forum got the same problem too.

Posted

Dammit - I thought I got everything right, But now none of my Male savegames are working. My female savegames seemed to work perfectly though, but whenever I fast travel the game crashes.

 

- I found it out to be 'Sensual walks for female NPC's' , After i disable the XEO 5 option in the installer everything works again.

Strange because I had it working once.

 

Oh, and btw I don't belive i have the full version of xeo anyway (I have XEO4A4, XEORC and the xeo eye fix - But I am still missing quite a few textures, Races particularly, or are they not included).

 

The MBP install guide here helped a lot in locating all the versions of mbp I need,

Kinda sad there isn't something similar for XEO (In ENGLISH, at east).

 

But thanks anyway - My game can finally run again.

 

Posted

Personally I've never trusted OBMM to sort my load order, I only use OBMM to install the few OMOD's I use and that's it. I've never used BOSS, I know it can't sort any of the Lovers mods but others here do rely on it to sort other mods correctly. I've always sorted my load orders manually, have done for years and for Oblivion I use Wrye Bash and TES4Edit to help me get things working correctly.

 

If Wrye Bash is changing your load order you probably have "Lock Times" turned on, which simply means that if you change your load order in BOSS, OBMM or by hand and then run Wrye Bash it will just restore all times and dates of all your mods to the ones it recorded when "Lock Times" was turned on. Turn off "Lock Times" and Bash shouldn't alter your load order at all.

 

It's also worth considering the benefits of using a Bashed Patch, there's a lot of tweaks etc that you can apply with a Bashed Patch (some of which can replace a mod) and it can help to reduce the number of conflicts between mods.

Posted

@ Gregathit: I rearranged my mods according to your pattern. IN addtion I installed the new PK v1.4.1 - 6 [Rev93] file. Things run smoothly now.

@ Grizzly: This is an essential hint. Extremely helpful! *thumbs up*

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