BBP/TBBP and Animations

[lunarsage]

So from what little I understand, BBP/TBBP is built into armor and body meshes and not skeletons, but a compatible skeleton is required to not CTD. And animations are completely separate from the bounce mechanics? I'd like to know this because I'm looking to install a new animation pack and I'm wondering whether or not if that will cause me to lose the bouncing. Thank you!

[gregathit]

Bounce is contingent on 3 things:

1. The mesh, be it a body, clothing or armor being weight painted to bounce.

2. Having a main skeleton installed that has bounce capabilities in the bones.

3. Having an animation play that contains bouncing instructions to the main skeleton.

 

If you don't have all three then no bounce.  This is consistent for ALL Bethesda games.

[lunarsage]

Ah, I see. Thanks! So the animations -do- play a part.

 

So what's the difference between BBP and TBBP? Just different bouncing animation? Where are the differences contained? (i.e. Is it the in animation, mesh, or skeleton?)

 

I currently have Dragonfly's TBBP with Butt Bounce installed and I want to install this Female Animations Pack, along with some other animations. What would happen if I do this? Some of them only support BBP and some don't mention either. Does that mean there will be different/no bounces? Here are all the animation packs I'm interested in:

 

-http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/13272/ Victoria's High Heel Walk Animation plus BBP (doesn't mention TBBP)

-http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/11954/ Pretty Female Idles (doesn't mention any BBP)

-http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/15703/ Pretty Combat Idles (doesn't mention any BBP)

-http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/16975/ New Animation for Running with Bow (doesn't mention any BBP)

-http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/11447/ Feminine Running  and New Dash Animation (doesn't mention any BBP)

-http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/16864/ Momo Acrobatic Jump (doesn't mention any BBP)

[WrythePhokas]

If you want to watch that butt wiggle you have to keep at least the walking animation from Dragonfly. I've actually been thinking about going back to the Momo run in the animation pack as I can't see any wiggle in Dragonfly's run animation and when I'm running I'm generally not looking at my character's front anyway so I don't really care about the bouncing on that front while running. Dragonfly's run animation is a little bit too manga-ish for me.

[lunarsage]

Are there any good TBBP run or dash animations out there? I suppose I wouldn't need bouncing during combat so I guess I'll just install those, at least. I'm still on the fence about Dragonfly's idle, though. Having my character just keep turning around over and over is sorta weird, but then there would be no bounce at all...

[WrythePhokas]

I use a different idle than Dragonfly's. I had that in my game for about 15 secs before I ditched it. It's not as weird as the extremely active boobs on a completely still body using CheeryHotalings idle. It was as if my characters boobs were independent creatures about to take off on a separate adventure of their own. If my character is standing still her boobs should be pretty quiet as well. This is of course just my opinion

 

I use idle #4 from this mod (http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/13878/?). Nothing fancy, but gets the job done.

[lunarsage]

Hah, I suppose you're right about that. Really, the whole turning thing is just a pain when editing appearance. Gotta wait like 2-3 seconds for her to turn back around to see the changes. So is there a list of animations with BBP/TBBP?

[Foulbrew]

is there a comprehensive TBBP animation package out there?

[Alpia]

is there a comprehensive TBBP animation package out there?

 

This thread is from 2013 make a new one anyway there is no need for a package nor for extra animations as long as you have a tbbp body and armor it will jiggle once you walk or run