Fallout 4 CTD help/advice

[MiniMania1]

Hi everyone,

 

I recently built a new fallout 4 load order following a YT I watch. Theres over 500 mods that are merged into suggested merged plugins, however, I am experiencing a few issues. When I enter a few areas and come across I believe certain enemies my game CTD. (I say "believe come across certain enemies because I hear gunfire followed by the game crashing when I get nearer to the gunfire.) I have attempted to use buffout 4 and resolved the suggested issues it was giving me, however, I am still receiving issues. I am aware having so many mods can cause issues, however, I watch this YT frequently and even watched him stream this load order for a few hours (2-4) with no issues. I have added a few things to the mod list 
(mainly LL mods) but even with them removed I encounter issues. Any advice or solutions on resolving this issue is much appreciated.  I will include my current mod list down below.

 

Load order:

 

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1
Balisong.esl=1
M84FlashBang.esl=1
GTFOB.esl=1
HUDFramework.esm=1
ammoUI_by_tooun.esl=1
Arbitration - Resources.esm=1
DDLL.esl=1
XDI.esm=1
HellcatPA.esl=0
Overlays.esm=1
TacticalReload.esm=1
IceStormsHair.esl=1
CROSS_VertibirdFlightsuit.esl=0
CROSS_Wasteland_Ronin.esl=0
AAF.esm=1
AAFThemes.esl=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
MutantMenagerie.esm=1
MoreWildlife.esl=1
TheWilderness.esm=1
TheWilderness-MutantMenageriePatch.esl=1
TheMarshland.esm=1
TheMarshland-MutantMenageriePatch.esl=1
FrozenValley.esm=1
IceStormsCombatDrone.esl=1
TeslaHeavyGun.esl=1
TheSewers.esm=1
Darlene.esm=1
ProjectMojave.esm=1
HandmadeAntiMaterielRifle.esl=1
CityAmbience.esl=1
BerettaM9FS.esl=1
WorkshopFramework.esm=1
CWWorkshopMaster.esm=1
CWWorkshopPackPart2.esl=1
TortureDevices.esm=1
CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm=1
Devious Devices.esm=1
AAC_HoneyBadger.esp=1
M8r_Item_Tags_Vanilla_EN.esp=1
Clothing pack 3 and power armor.esp=0
Clothing pack 3.esp=1
Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
subwayrunnnernodynamic.esp=1
SuperMutantRedux.esp=1
Cross collection complete.esp=1
TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp=0
TheKite_MilitiaWoman.esp=0
Tactical Combat Swimwear.esp=0
Sporty Underwear.esp=0
S_Uniform_M.esp=0
S_Uniform_F.esp=0
MiscOutfitPackv2.esp=0
OutcastsAndRemnants.esp=1
InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp=1
CombinedArmsNV.esp=1
CombinedArmsEXPack.esp=1
Depravity.esp=1
Ghoul overhaul collection.esp=1
Yaoguai grab skill.esp=0
Radstag Grab Skill.esp=0
Radscorpion Stab Skill.esp=0
Feral Ghoul Bite Skills.esp=0
Deathclaw Grab Skills.esp=0
Assaultron Grab Skills.esp=0
AA FusionCityRising.esp=1
dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp=1
AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp=1
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp=1
Lowered Drawbridges.esp=1
GhillieModRedux.esp=0
TacticalCourser_Standalone.esp=1
Lots More Facial Hair.esp=1
Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp=1
KSHairdos_oel.esp=1
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp=1
[FV20] Piotr Purge Masks.esp=0
F3metalarmor.esp=1
KSHairsFemsheppingRadbeetle.esp=1
Just Business.esp=1
_WastelandBallistics_.esp=1
_WastelandBallistics_VanillaLaser.esp=1
CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp=0
Gas Masks of the Wasteland.esp=1
Gas Mask NPC.esp=1
Clothing pack 1.esp=1
CROSS_Blades.esp=0
CROSS_BreakActionLaser.esp=0
CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp=0
CROSS_CryoLance.esp=0
CROSS_Cybernetics.esp=0
CROSS_Eyewear_CircularGlasses.esp=0
CROSS_FireworksCannon.esp=0
CROSS_PlasRail.esp=0
CROSS_Techmask.esp=0
CROSS_Uni_BosUniform.esp=0
CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp=0
CROSS_Uni_Scarf.esp=0
EnclaveFactionItems.esp=1
Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_GunForHire_Addon.esp=1
AA12.esp=1
M2_Flamethrower_2.2.esp=1
AAF animations.esp=1
Mk41GyrojetHMG.esp=1
MWRam7.esp=1
Mercenary.esp=1
TheAuctionhaus.esp=1
Wasteland Water Revival - Clearly Visible.esp=1
ProjectValkyrie.esp=1
The Will of Atom.esp=1
VIO_Strap-On.esp=0
Real Handcuffs merged.esp=1
Companions pack 1.esp=1
Weapon small pack 1.esp=0
Weapon small pack 2.esp=0
Weapon small pack 3.esp=0
Ak5C.esp=1
ChinaLakeandHolorifle.esp=1
9mmPistol.esp=1
MREs.esp=1
Tomacuzi9.esp=1
GrenadeExpansionPack.esp=1
AnotherOneKukri.esp=1
G11.esp=1
mk14.esp=1
MK18.esp=1
MWAN94.esp=1
SimpleBounties.esp=1
Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_Kidnapping_Addon.esp=1
AER15.esp=1
Wana_SA58.esp=1
LString_Bow.esp=1
Tactical ACR.esp=1
CMA_Arena.esp=1
CWCreateABot.esp=1
Glock 17&18.esp=1
EM2.esp=1
ECV_Remnants.esp=1
RU556.esp=1
RU556Armouryprojectv3.esp=1
Galac-TactREDUX.esp=1
LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp=1
M1911-WARSStandaloneWeapon.esp=1
M1928A1.esp=1
AK74M.esp=1
MTs255.esp=1
llamaCompanionHeather.esp=1
SigMCX.esp=1
M203.esp=1
S&W 1917.esp=1
HaxRPG7.esp=1
9x39Project.esp=1
9x39ProjectSR3MAddon.esp=1
AX50.esp=1
DoubleBarrelReloadRedone.esp=1
APC9.esp=1
APC9_LeveledListPatch.esp=1
APC9_TacticalReloadPatch.esp=1
APC9AP.esp=1
Casio_W59.esp=1
Cranky.esp=1
Crossbow.esp=1
Escape from Boston - G36.esp=1
Escape from Boston - SRSA2.esp=1
FOrigin12.esp=1
ImiGalil.esp=1
ImiGalilLvlListPatch.esp=1
Glock19x.esp=1
ImiUziLvlList.esp=1
ImiUzi.esp=1
Mac10.esp=1
Krebs.esp=1
KrissVector.esp=1
DOOM1911.esp=1
M2Agency.esp=1
M2AgencyLvlListPatch.esp=1
DOOMMAC11.esp=1
Makeshiftshotgun.esp=1
MR73.esp=1
McMillanCS5.esp=1
MG42.esp=1
Mosin.esp=1
Mossberg500.esp=1
MussoBowie.esp=1
ODW - Winchester Model 1873.esp=1
OTs33Pernach.esp=1
PredatorKnife.esp=1
Binoculars.esp=1
QBZ191.esp=1
RealThrowingWeapons.esp=1
RemingtonM11.esp=1
RemingtonM11_LvlListPatch.esp=1
RemingtonM11_TacticalReloadPatch.esp=1
RemingtonNewArmyStandalone.esp=1
RemoteExplosives.esp=1
RussianAssaultPack.esp=1
ReconPack.esp=1
3dscopes-framework.esp=1
P220.esp=1
P220 Animation Overhaul.esp=1
ehtyeci_MPX.esp=1
HsProduktVhs2.esp=1
MW2R-WA2000.esp=1
AX50_LLInjector.esp=1
MG42_LLInjector.esp=1
AA12_LLInjector.esp=1
Mk41GyroHMG_LLInjector.esp=1
RealThrowWeap_LLInjector.esp=1
McMillanCS5_LLInjector.esp=1
QBZ191_LLInjector.esp=1
TeslaHeavyAuto_LLInjector.esp=1
win1897.esp=1
Penetration Framework.esp=1
Beretta92FS-SwordCutlass.esp=1
CBJ-MS PDW.esp=1
SPTFIRE-ALLDLC.esp=1
G3A3.esp=1
DP_CaravanShotgun.esp=1
Welrod.esp=1
MilitarizedMinutemen.esp=1
WildwoodCemeteryTombDungeon.esp=1
AK400.esp=1
Skb_MachinegunsRebirth.esp=1
SA80.esp=1
AKM_AKMS.esp=1
AKM_AKMS_NWPatch.esp=1
FnScar.esp=1
GM6.esp=1
MP7.esp=1
HuntingRevolver.esp=1
ModularGaussRifle.esp=1
L96A1.esp=1
L96A1_Additions.esp=1
BC93.esp=1
TEC9.esp=1
ASH127.esp=1
AUG-A1.esp=1
T6M_SS-MG.esp=1
F4NVSingleActionArmy.esp=1
P90.esp=1
USP .45_by_tooun.esp=1
CazadorML.esp=1
Chiappa Rhino.esp=1
Escape from Boston - M200 Intervention.esp=1
P90NPC.esp=1
FnScar_LvlListPatch.esp=1
G36Complex.esp=1
GIAT_FAMAS.esp=1
Famas_Addon.esp=1
GreaseGunSMG.esp=1
GrenadeExpansionPackChinaLakePatch.esp=1
HK_UMP.esp=1
G3_R91_Expansion.esp=1
G3A3LvlListPatch.esp=1
HoneyBadger.esp=1
Karambit.esp=1
MK18 Armory Project.esp=1
AnotherMK18Addon.esp=1
MK18_Deluxe.esp=1
MP40.esp=1
HK_MP5.esp=1
MWAUG.esp=1
MWM91.esp=1
MWMpapa5.esp=1
PJARPistol.esp=1
Remington700.esp=1
RugerMini14.esp=1
RugerMini14RecoilFix.esp=1
SigMCX_LvlListPatch.esp=1
SigMCX_MaterialPack.esp=1
M1A.esp=1
M1 Carbine.esp=1
Ash12.7 Battle Rifle_LLInjector.esp=1
LString_LLInjector.esp=1
RugerMini14_LLInjector.esp=1
MP40_LLInjector.esp=1
MK14-EBR_LLInjector.esp=1
Hunting_LLInjector.esp=1
F4NVSAA_LLInjector.esp=1
HKUSP45Tooun_LLInjector.esp=1
P90_LLInjector.esp=1
PJAR Pistol_LLInjector.esp=1
Proto-Gauss_LLInjector.esp=1
HoneyBadger_LLInjector.esp=1
MW-AN94_LLInjector.esp=1
M1928A1_LLInjector.esp=1
RemingtonACR_LLInjector.esp=1
AK74M_LLInjector.esp=1
GM6_LLInjector.esp=1
SA80_LLInjector.esp=1
WelrodMII_LLInjector.esp=1
50 Cal Bunker Bustin.esp=1
AnimatedRadaway.esp=1
BAM-BetterArmoryMod.esp=1
Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp=1
SettlementMenuManager.esp=1
MyCart_Biohazard.esp=0
[Blot] CODCW Watch Pack.esp=0
BOCW Outfit Pack.esp=0
BOS_overhaul.esp=0
Classic_Army_Helmet.esp=0
CROSS_CoA.esp=0
CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp=0
CROSS_Jetpack.esp=0
DevtacRonin.esp=0
LedImport_ElegantJeans.esp=0
GhillieModRedux - Hotfix.esp=0
Gunner_Operator.esp=0
K9TacticalHarness.esp=0
Maska_helmet.esp=0
Military Gorka Suit.esp=0
[MW2R] Shadow Company.esp=0
Nexus_PMC.esp=0
NukaRadBans.esp=1
OpsCoreFASTHelmet.esp=0
PMC_extended.esp=0
TacticalCourser.esp=1
US_Marines_BDU.esp=0
Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment.esp=1
Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_OAR_Depravity_Patch.esp=1
Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_Depravity_Patch.esp=1
RealisticAccuracy.esp=1
advancedAITweaks.esp=1
AimStabilityFix_by_Ruddy88.esp=1
AlysrazaOverlays.esp=1
Ambient Wasteland.esp=1
AmmoCounterFramework.esp=1
Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
ClassicGhoulRace.esp=0
CGR - Nuka World.esp=0
CROSS_GoreCrits.esp=1
CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp=1
ScopeOverlayDOF.esp=1
DCRE.esp=1
DiaryOfAMadman.esp=1
DA44.esp=1
E3PC.esp=1
Scopes.esp=1
M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp=1
Fatigues Extended.esp=0
TacticalTablet.esp=1
BoS Alt Uniforms.esp=0
PAUC - Power Armor Underwater Combat_1.0.esp=1
OTs-02 Kiparis.esp=1
[ARRETH] FGEP.esp=0
Give Me That Bottle.esp=1
Gritty Subway Stations.esp=1
Elzee Human Grab Attacks.esp=1
ImmersiveAnimationFramework.esp=1
IAF - Far Harbor & Nuka World.esp=1
Jetpack Overhaul.esp=1
Locky Bastard.esp=1
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
LostWorld.esp=1
Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp=1
Zenit.esp=1
ManualReload.esp=1
RussianStimpack.esp=1
Rusty Face Fix.esp=1
SavrenX HD Vanilla Clothes Optimized.esp=1
SettleObjExpandPack.esp=1
ShootingTarget.esp=1
SimpleImpact.esp=1
1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp=1
Stimpaks help you breathe.esp=1
SuperMutantLL.esp=1
Third Person Movement Speed Fix.esp=1
EFF.esp=1
VAFS Redux.esp=1
VAFS Redux DLC Patch.esp=1
WastelandFashionBandanasBlindfolds.esp=0
WeaponWallRacks.esp=1
WestTekTacticalOptics.esp=1
MWRam7_LLInjector.esp=1
DarleneDLC.esp=1
Lacy Underwear.esp=0
Lara's Wetsuit.esp=0
SF OldLongfellow.esp=0
SF Cait.esp=0
SF Deacon.esp=0
VHCE.esp=1
SF Danse.esp=0
SF PrestonGarvey.esp=0
SF Curie.esp=0
MiscHairstyle.esp=1
SF PiperWright.esp=0
ManCoat.esp=1
SF MacCready.esp=0
RoundGlasses.esp=0
SF X6-88.esp=0
LookingStranger.esp=0
SF Gage.esp=0
Clothes pack 2.esp=1
WastelandRags.esp=0
FPAttributes.esp=0
le666piercings.esp=0
Slave&ModelPinup.esp=0
AFVPurgatory.esp=1
Raider Pet.esp=1
AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp=0
BasementLiving.esp=1
CabinInTheWoods.esp=1
dcc-bp-lol-navi.esp=0
FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp=1
RealHandcuffs.esp=0
RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp=0
RealHandcuffs_DD_Compatibility.esp=0
RealHandcuffs_JB_Compatibility.esp=0
KSHairdos.esp=0
SnapdragonAnimations.esp=0
ServitronStrap.esp=0
HiPolyFaces.esp=0
LKsDoctorAmari.esp=0
LKsMagnolia..esp=0
Patch MagnoliaSex-AAF.esp=0
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=0
GhoulBlood.esp=0
4estGimp - MFGEP_Merged.esp=0
Enemy skills collection.esp=1
Police_Officers.esp=1
Headcrab_Bunny.esp=1
 

[MiniMania1]

Quick update: I get consistent CTD when I try to approach ranger cabin (north of abernathy farm) 

[Sgt. Marge]

I see some adult mods in that list, be sure to have followed the guide I'm linking to the letter in order to have everything work in that regard.

In this guide there are a couple of very important things you have to follow.  Be sure to check the section titled "Enable Modding" if you haven't already added those lines to your ini file.  Check that you aren't using the mods it specifies as being incompatible with an AAF install.

 

And if you are crashing without any adult mods, then yes you have some things missing or incompatible.  I'm not an expert on troubleshooting a huge mod list, but here is my suggestion.  And yes it will be time consuming.  Enable a small group of mods, go through each mod you are enabling, read all of the descriptions and support posts, and then test.  If the game is stable, move on to another group of mods and do the same thing.  When you start running into crashing, then you have to go back through the last group of mods you enabled 1 at a time.  I do not recommend throwing 500 mods at a mod manager and hoping for the best.  I know that you've got this list from a source you trust, but you may as well take all the parts and build it slowly yourself to see where it went wrong.  That way you will learn more about the process. 

 

Hopefully you are using a Mod Manager, I would only recommend Vortex or Mod Organizer 2.  Check out videos from "Gopher" and "GamerPoets", they make great tutorials.

 

 

[Sgt. Marge]

6 minutes ago, MiniMania1 said:

Quick update: I get consistent CTD when I try to approach ranger cabin (north of abernathy farm) 

 

In addition to my previous post, it does get much easier to troubleshoot a crash when you can reproduce it, so this is a good sign.  The method of starting with no mods and enabling a groiup at a time as I described will work well for this, as you can go near the area and see if it's reproduced.  But you will need to start a new game for each test.  Use SKK fast start / new location, 2 mods that are great for testing.

[mircislav]

If  I may suggest - first see the mods description and decide do you have any (practical-ish) use of that mod and you really need it. Decide your play style and what do you want to do in Fallout environment. You can't "have it all" without problems later in the game or even from the start. It's the same as eating: you can eat in large quantities but at same point shit will start coming trough your ears...

[mircislav]

42 minutes ago, Marg597 said:

CTD when I try to approach ranger cabin

That's usually from two mods modifying the same cell (mod conflict).

[Nuka Cherry]

Install FO4 edit.

• Launch and open with all mods active.
• Then in the left pane, right click and select "Apply filter to show conflicts", go make a cup of tea, this will take up to 10 minutes to process.
• After it is complete, Mods in red will show where they conflict - not all of these need to be fixed as load order will resolve them, but cell edits are problematic.
• Look for mods that edit that cell (ranger) and it will show which mods are in conflict in the right panel
• Create an overide patch  (short version - right click on the title of the mod in the right screen you want to win and select "copy override into..." and select one of the blank mods on the list and rename that "bug squasher". Then drag over the cells you want to win from the mod you want to win, into the patch. Things should change from red to green.
• Then go to that patch (right screen of MO2 - please, for the lover of god, being using MO2) and activate the patch last in your load order.
• Test. If you crash again, repeat searching for bugs.

As a tip - for big mod installs, use wabbajack.