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Hey all,

Lets start this out by admitting that I've got a TON of mods.  I'm near the 255 cap in fact, and while I'm sure that's at the root of the issue,  I think ultimately once I get an answer to my question my fix will probably be fairly simple. 

This morning I uninstalled the Ashen Race from Skyrim.  I nearly immediately RE-installed it, but for some reason some of my custom races no longer have hands (only when bare...  gloves makes hands visible), while others still do.  Missing are male and female hands 1st and 3rd person for Ningheim, Ashen, and Noiral.  Strangely Lovergirls, and Temptress still have their hands.  The Default races are unaffected.

I'm guessing some shared resource was deleted, but for the life of me I can't figure out what.  Anybody have any idea what's gone missing here?  Something that only effects the hands of some custom races and only when the hands are bare?

Thanks in advance!

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I am guessing that these are races with body meshes and textures of their own? If so, look and see if the hand meshes and textures are still there, most likely they are missing. If you have not done any other modifications to the race you should be able to reinstall it and replace the missing files.

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I am guessing that these are races with body meshes and textures of their own? If so, look and see if the hand meshes and textures are still there, most likely they are missing. If you have not done any other modifications to the race you should be able to reinstall it and replace the missing files.

 

See, this is what I thought too.  Oddly, after looking at the meshes and texture files for the effected races, and reinstalling them all, it's had no effect.  Near as I can see the correct texture files AND mesh files for the hands are actually in all of these directories.  This is why I thought there might be some common file used that might be effected.  Being as this place is lousy with modding geniuses, I thought maybe someone would know offhand of such a file.   Or at least I'm hopeful of it. I suspect I might :)

 

@Arc of Truth:

 

*edited* Fair point  Here is my load order fresh off of running BOSS.  (The problem happened both before and after BOSS)

 

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

AOM.esm

AsharaDimonizedDress.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

HmmWhatToWear.esm

HmmWhatToWearDawnGuard.esm

Night Eye Overhaul.esm

OblHairs06.esm

OblHairs02.esm

OblHairs01.esm

OblHairs07.esm

OblHairs03.esm

OblHairs05.esm

OblHairs04.esm

SPIKE.esm

Solstheim Climate Overhaul.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Delphine Makeover.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

realrainCoT.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp

AOM.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

DaedricCrownCraftable.esp

DragonCrownCraftable.esp

DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp

DSpSoB.esp

EbonyCrownCraftable.esp

GlassCrownCraftable.esp

NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - Around Cities_bright.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - Bridges x2 - OnOff_bright.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - Villages.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

RealShelter.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Svs Super Collection Jewelry.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Footprints.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

SkyTweak.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

SkyUI.esp

AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp

Bandanas of Skyrim.esp

Bikini-MTM.esp

BlackSacramentArmor.esp

bouncy_bodices_for_unp.esp

bouncy_booties.esp

Cloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

CraftablePantysCBBEv3M.esp

Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons UNP.esp

EagleSword.esp

Elewin Jewelry.esp

Elven Archer Armor.esp

Field Mage Outfit.esp

FJ_TsunArmor.esp

Forsworn Boots Replacer.esp

fox15 Armor.esp

HmmWhatToWearMerged.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Juquinha-armory.esp

Kaw's Cat Disguise.esp

LadyKdCirclets.esp

MashupUNP.esp

Maxwell Outfit.esp

nightshade_armor_UNPB.esp

Nouserhere Ears.esp

Osare GothicLolita.esp

Osare GothicLolita BU.esp

Osare HotPants.esp

Osare Underwear.esp

R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp

R18Pn - Fiona Armor.esp

Ranger's Cape.esp

rosarmor.esp

SilverArmor.esp

Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp

UNP Leather Clothes.esp

UNP Boots.esp

UNP Undies.esp

UNPB Barbarian Armor.esp

WestWindAssault.esp

zz_GDRAHoods.esp

zzlovelyfeather.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

calyps-dragonpriestmasks.esp

Lock Overhaul.esp

Aurora.esp

CornerofTheSkyrim.esp

Convenient Horse Herding.esp

HearthfireMultiKid.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

ShezriesHFKitchen.esp

Babette.esp

Headtracking.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Proper Aiming.esp

SkaalKidAetaCoat.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

xvisionchildren.esp

YChildren of the Sky.esp

skyforgedWeapons.esp

Helgen Reborn.esp

RLO - Occlusion Culling Performance Patch.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Dawnguard Weathers.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - 3.5 Weathers.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Better Vampires.esp

WerewolfMastery.esp

Waterwalking.esp

FNISspells.esp

Night Eye Overhaul.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

TKDodge.esp

ABT - Loot Arrows +50%.esp

ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp

ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp

ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (Vanilla) +50%.esp

ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (with Nord Hero Arrow) +50%.esp

ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp

Sneak Tools.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

Skyrim Perk Enhancements.esp

SPERG Dawnguard Patch.esp

SPERG Dragonborn Patch.esp

Pinups5.esp

Pinups4.esp

Pinups2.esp

Pinups.esp

Pinups3.esp

Brows.esp

LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp

numenume Hair.esp

SGHairPack06.esp

SGHairPack05.esp

SGHairPack04.esp

SGHairPack01.esp

SGHairPack02.esp

SGHairPack03.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

Improved Freckles Skyrim.esp

TSFemaleWarPaints.esp

dagi_raht_race.esp

EpicElves by zzjay.esp

Noiral.esp

OrientalRace.esp

CuteDesigns.esp

TemptressVixen.esp

3DNPC.esp

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

Amanda.esp

Lyla.esp

Michelle.esp

Misha.esp

Rayya Housecarl Makeover GRW.esp

sneCosette.esp

SRIlta.esp

SRIsaka.esp

SRKirsikka.esp

SRMaisa.esp

SRSarasta.esp

Thaiden.esp

SGFKodelia.esp

SGFLucretia.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Start As Nord Female.esp

khajiit_replacer.esp

Reanimate FX.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

getSnowy.esp

WATER.esp

WATER Plants.esp

WATER DB Waves.esp

JiubQuestMarkers.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

forsworn-trouble.esp

Proserpine_companion.esp

TavernClothes-MTM.esp

NEO Persistent Spell.esp

NEO Tint 1.esp

mortenhairs.esp

zzLSARAddon.esp

Lakeview_Extended.esp

Lakeview_Extended_Steam.esp

Krev The Skinner's Mantle by Hothtrooper44.esp

Svs Collection Jewelry.esp

Smoking Torches.esp

JewelryArmorMod.esp

DreamBurrowPatchWorkMaiden.esp

AeriAssassin.esp

SkinnyDipping.esp

RaceMenuMimic.esp

JemWM.esp

Antennaria.esp

WestWindMisfit.esp

Throwing_Weapons_Redux.esp

Osare KneeSocks 2nd.esp

Lovergirl Race.esp

The Ningheim.esp

The Ningheim - Followers.esp

Immersive Falkreath.esp

Immersive Ivarstead.esp

Immersive Karthwasten.esp

Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp

Immersive Darkwater crossing.esp

Immersive Dawnstar.esp

Immersive Kynesgrove.esp

Immersive Shors stone.esp

Immersive Stonehills.esp

Immersive Whiterun.esp

Immersive Rorikstead.esp

Immersive Morthal.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

Immersive Riverwood.esp

 

I DID say it was a long list. :P

 

Everytthing worked fine until this morning when I uninstalled and reinstalled The Ashen Race.

 

Posted

Something else to look at: open the mod in the creation kit and under the armor addons there should be Entries for Naked Hands for each race and a general entry (this is where the hands are added to the race).

Posted

Something else to look at: open the mod in the creation kit and under the armor addons there should be Entries for Naked Hands for each race and a general entry (this is where the hands are added to the race).

 

Excellent!  That's the sort of thing I was looking for.   I'll give that a look!  Thanks!

 

It's happening with a number of them.  Ningheim, Ashen, Epic Elves, Norial, but it's NOT happening with Lovergirl or Temptress.  This is one of the things I found most interesting.  Pretty clearly, those races it's happening with share some common file that the default races, the Lovergirl, and Temptress don't.

 

This has finally inspired me to get around to installing the creation kit.  :)

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